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Author Topic: FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here  (Read 124397 times)

Online Rosemary Ainslie

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Golly I missed that 'engineer-colonel' thing.  You're right. But I think the most of us thought as much?  Certainly I sort of hoped that's where it's gone.

And that new poll of yours Chess.  It's great.  But I'd rather prefer to vote yes on EVERY SINGLE proposal there.  I ended up with the 3rd choice with the caveat that the trolls on our forums be made to be accountable as well.  That would very nearly satisfy ALL my concerns.  LOL

Take good care Chess, and THANKS AGAIN for all your hard work.

Kindest and best,
Rosie

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Golly I missed that 'engineer-colonel' thing.  You're right. But I think the most of us thought as much?  Certainly I sort of hoped that's where it's gone.

And that new poll of yours Chess.  It's great.  But I'd rather prefer to vote yes on EVERY SINGLE proposal there.  I ended up with the 3rd choice with the caveat that the trolls on our forums be made to be accountable as well.  That would very nearly satisfy ALL my concerns.  LOL

Take good care Chess, and THANKS AGAIN for all your hard work.

Kindest and best,
Rosie

@Rosemary:
I added an all of the above option on the new poll.  I also reset the votes to give everybody a second chance to vote 8)
 
 
Warmest regards,
 
Chess
 

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@Rosemary:
I added an all of the above option on the new poll.  I also reset the votes to give everybody a second chance to vote 8)
 
 
Warmest regards,
 
Chess

WELL.  I've now cast my vote.  Always a pleasure.
Kindest as ever,
Rosie

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He makes a specific reference to his customer (the purchaser of the one megawatt unit) as "Colonel-Engineer"!??!@!! :o
 
I don't know very many "Colonel-Engineer" s except those in the military and since we already have the admission of the customer being from the U.S., it strongly suggests the customer is a branch of the U.S. Military  ;)

Not very likely Chess.
 
The most likely candidate for "Colonel-Engineer" in this area of research is Col. Tom Bearden (retired).

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Not very likely Chess.
 
The most likely candidate for "Colonel-Engineer" in this area of research is Col. Tom Bearden (retired).

.99

Col. Tom Bearden (retired) could not afford 1 unit let alone the 13 odd that's been ordered.   You need to think again Poynty Point.  As ever, you're hoping against hope that this will all come to nothing.  A curious reach for an ardent supporter of over unity research.  I'd have thought?  Golly.  If this goes on we'll all have to assume that you're rather determined to DENY ALL EVIDENCE.  Not very scientific Poynty.  Not a good thing AT ALL. 

Regards,
Rosie Pose

By the way (BTW)  :o Poynty Point.  I've left you some rather personal messages on my thread.   8) You need to dip in there and answer some outstanding questions.  Especially as they relate to your prize offer.

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Not very likely Chess.
 
The most likely candidate for "Colonel-Engineer" in this area of research is Col. Tom Bearden (retired).

.99

@.99
Wouldn't a retired Colonel be enjoying his FAT military pension and not be working for (an employee of) a cutomer of Rossi's?   

"We shall see" said the Zen Master... :o
 
Keep clutching at straws so we can continue to be entertained  ;D
 
 
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Col. Tom Bearden (retired) could not afford 1 unit let alone the 13 odd that's been ordered.   You need to think again Poynty Point.  As ever, you're hoping against hope that this will all come to nothing.  A curious reach for an ardent supporter of over unity research.  I'd have thought?  Golly.  If this goes on we'll all have to assume that you're rather determined to DENY ALL EVIDENCE.  Not very scientific Poynty.  Not a good thing AT ALL. 

Regards,
Rosie Pose

By the way (BTW)  :o Poynty Point.  I've left you some rather personal messages on my thread.   8) You need to dip in there and answer some outstanding questions.  Especially as they relate to your prize offer.

@Rosemary:
It's amazing how many so called "legitimate" over unity researchers turn out to be propagandists, isn't it?  My list of Jokers just keep on growing.  And this is the best our enemies have to offer?  The enemy is getting so screwed.  They should have hired more lawyers of the best caliber.  The current list of trolls simply won't do.

Next? 
 
Chess

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@Rosemary:
It's amazing how many so called "legitimate" over unity researchers turn out to be propagandists, isn't it?  My list of Jokers just keep on growing.  And this is the best our enemies have to offer?  The enemy is getting so screwed.  They should have hired more lawyers of the best caliber.  The current list of trolls simply won't do.

Next? 
 
Chess

LOL  NEVER underestimate the 'enemy' Chess.  It's the FIRST rule of insurgency warfare.  These people LURK.  The interesting thing is how it all becomes way too transparent when you see the tactics.  You're right.  They'll need to come in at a new angle.  That would have the real merit of novelty.  They're becoming rather stale. 

Take care Chess.  And WATCH YOUR BACK.   :o 8)
Rosie

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Hi chess, Rosie
This is old news story from 60 minutes about cold fusion but it is just more ammo against the trolls that don't believe in the truth. I feel sorry for those scientists that started all the cold fusion or lenr experiments and the way they were treated by the powers that be.


http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4967330n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox



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Hi chess, Rosie
This is old news story from 60 minutes about cold fusion but it is just more ammo against the trolls that don't believe in the truth. I feel sorry for those scientists that started all the cold fusion or lenr experiments and the way they were treated by the powers that be.

 Hope - it's all good news.  And there's no question that it's upset the status quo.  Thank God.
 
 And take care, Hope.  We're gaining ground here - slowly but surely.  Who knows, the day may yet come that our trolls will need to argue science - instead of relying on all that heavy handed propaganda flaunted as higher knowledge.  What a pleasure that will be.
 
 Kindest as ever,
 Rosie

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Hi chess, Rosie
This is old news story from 60 minutes about cold fusion but it is just more ammo against the trolls that don't believe in the truth. I feel sorry for those scientists that started all the cold fusion or lenr experiments and the way they were treated by the powers that be.


http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4967330n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox

@energy1234hope:
I had seen this video some time ago and it is pretty convincing but can you imagine an updated version of this 60 Minutes episode with Andrea Rossi and his E-Cat at center stage?       
 
@Everyone:
(highlights from Andrea Rossi's most recent interview on 1-15-2012 continued)
 
Sterling Allen:  Ok. Moving to a different area, what is the status of the US patent application.
 
Andrea Rossi:  The patent is still pending. We have our patent has been granted in Italy. So the process of authorization and study of the patent has been two years long in Italy. Then we had the patent granted. While the international and the US are still pending.
 
Sterling Allen:  Any prognosis of when those might be granted, if so?
 
Andrea Rossi:  It is absolutely impossible because this is an issue that absolutely does not depend on us. Our patent attorney's are working on it. I cannot say anymore, because this is an issue that does not depend on us. That is it.
 
Sterling Allen:  I should comment that really the open source question is moot, because after a certain period of time, once the period of time is available, and you have acknowledge this, reverse engineering will take place. And your strategy it to make the device so cheap through advanced engineering and production technology that you will have an advantage in the market place you can maintain to be able to recoup the investment that has been made. And so once the reverse engineering takes place, another word for that will be open source. It will get out there, and others will begin working on it. And you are fully aware of that, and your solution to that is to provide a product that is so cheap and well engineered, that they cannot compete. Because you have the advantage of time.
 
Andrea Rossi:  You are absolutely correct.
 
Sterling Allen:  Yeah. That will satisfy a lot of people. Speaking of the E-Cat sales, you are talking about one million units. It is not clear in my mind if you start production in the fall or if the units are available in the fall.
 
Andrea Rossi:  We will start production in the fall. In the fall we will have ready all the engineering to start the production. And the sales will start in the winter. The production will be one million pieces per year. But from now to the fall, the work will be to prepare the factories.
 

Enjoy,

Chess

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Hi everyone.

Been lurking here for a while now, anxiously following the news on the e-cat. Good luck to Mr Rossi with that, and to all the other people in their overunity endeavours.

I wasnt quite sure where to post this, but hopefully it could be useful information. It could equally  not be useful, but thought it might well be worth putting past a few minds on here. If you feel it is of some use, then feel free to cross post this link to any other areas of the forum that you think may benefit.

The link relates to the work of Maurice Cotterell. I dont know if any of you are familiar with any of his work, or in particular his latest piece ? I will say no more, and simply give you a very quick overview in his own words of what he is attempting to explain followed by a link to his site. and to a recent interview he gave.

Im sure that you can understand why this information might be useful if you find his conclusions worthy of further study.

 overview for a theory of gravity ;

 The Hydrogen atom and helium atom generate helically polarised electromagnetic radiation from polar regions, that bombards neighbouring atoms, drawing them towards the source of the radiation. Gravity radiation then causes the nucleus of the neighbouring atom to spin axially ( the motor effect), and at the same time synchronises the spin of the electrons in both atoms. The neighbouring atom in turn generates helically polarised electromagnetic energy ( the generator effect ). Both atoms spin axially in the same direction. Hence the Gravitational forces from both atoms pull in the same direction and the forces are additive. The gravitational constant G is shown to be the instantaneous alternating magnetic force between any two electron magnets in neighbouring atoms , and hence the gravitation force (F) is proportional to G x m x M ( where m and M represent the electron count of neighbouring atoms)

Link to quote followed by diagrammatic clarification ;

http://mauricecotterell.com/gravity1a.html

Secondly the interview ;

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrSuperpotatotomato#p/c/CFC5AD2718F6C853/0/8sUINeUETwM

Good luck to you all.


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(highlights from Andrea Rossi's most recent interview on 1-15-2012 continued)
« Reply #597 on: February 09, 2012, 02:10:29 AM »
@Everyone:
This is the conclusion of the highlights from Andrea Rossi's January interview with Sterling Allen @pesn.com.
 
 
Enjoy,
 
Chess
 
 
Sterling Allen: Totally different question. I get inquiries from time to time about investment. I know there are people out there interested in investing in your company. What ranges of dollar amounts will you consider for investment? Anything above "X" dollars, for example.
 
Andrea Rossi: You know the issue is of a philosophic kind, because we are not yet... Our company before we will have millions of E-Cat units in operation, our company will be a sort of a warship. And as I usually say, I want not to play football with the bones of the others. So we cannot, we want not to accept money from people that have saved money working, and they want to invest their money to give, how can I say, safety to their family. We want not that. We do not want the savings of families in our enterprise now. Our enterprise is still risky, for many reasons. So we can accept investments from big organizations, that can invest a small amount... Some hedge funds of their finances, and can risk it, in a way that if something goes wrong, no body is going to cry. And no body is going to be damaged, really. Do you understand?
 
Sterling Allen: We have asked a lot of questions. This one question comes up a lot, and I think it is.. You have thousands of supporters who want to assist you in anyway they can. Could you maybe people an idea of some things they could do to help now, or maybe in the future? Give us a few bullet points of ways that people can help move this technology forward, and get involved, and when they could get involved.
 
Andrea Rossi: Well, we are walking deeply and profoundly to make the E-Cats at a very, very low price to allow people to pay back the E-Cat in a few months. The best help is to consider that getting an E-Cat, they save money for thirty years which is the expected life of an E-Cat. To pre-order an E-Cat is the thing that gives us a good way, is not risky, because it cost nothing. And when the E-Cats will be ready to be for sale, we will send to everybody who makes a pre-order a specific offer. And everybody will be free to cancel their order, or confirm it. And this is a good way to help us. And, do not send money, but just say, well, when the E-Cat will be out I will be ready to buy it. The price anyway will be between $400 and $500 dollars for a ten kilowatt system. This is a win-win proposal. And stay in touch with us, for now we have just to work.
 
Sterling Allen: Are you still taking inquiries for licensing?
 
Andrea Rossi: Yes. I am taking inquiries for licensing and....
 
Gary: And someone who is interested should they address you through your website? Is there some kind of a form they can fill out there?
 
Andrea Rossi: Yes, exactly. Just it is enough to send an email and anything. They can also send an email to Sterling Allan, to his website. Or to info@leonardocorp1996.com (info@leonardocorp1996.com) or yes to ecat.com.
 
Sterling Allen: My email address is sterlingda@pureenergysystems.com
 
Andrea Rossi: I really love you all, because you gave me the courage to go ahead. And that is all I have to say. I thank you very much. I feel your sustain and it is extremely important. Thank you very much for your attention.
 
Sterling Allen: In response I want to commend you for your courage and tenacity to do what few people, if any, have dared do. You are not afraid of what is quote and quote "impossible" or has never been done before. Or is seen as quote "ridiculous" by others. You are very unorthodox, and even though it may be difficult for people to understand you and to work with that kind of an operation, you are tireless. And you are courageous, and we salute you.
 
Andrea Rossi:  Thank you. Thank you very much.
 
 
 

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Thanks again Chessnyt for relaying this information.  I think it's interesting how Rossi points out how risky his enterprise still is.  I'd like to hear him elaborate on that in a future interview, whether he's talking more about dealing with opposition, technical challenges related to the devices themselves, or just the many difficulties involved with trying to set up any sort of large scale manufacturing process. 

Even if you don't believe in suppression conspiracies, the amount of hurdles and obstacles that must be overcome to get a product like this to market add up to a form of suppression in themselves.  All the deals and arrangements and organizing that has to take place.  One example I was wondering about was the export/distribution issue.  If these things are being made in the US, how much would it cost to send them all over the rest of the world, and what sort of import/export regulations or restrictions would apply?  Is there even and import/export product category that a portable LENR generator would fit into? 

Not trying to sound negative about it all, but it does make me think again how important it is for as many different people and groups as possible to try and make something of this technology.  It would be good if there were some very simple small-scale proof of concept experiment/s people could do to at least verify the reactions are as they are claimed to be.  Something that can be performed by any school or institution or individual who has the ability to do so safely.  Just to help spread the awareness of the technology and make it common knowledge at a grass-roots level, totally unconnected to any of the various ways the knowledge can be commercialized. 

Anyway, who knows how it will play out, and how long it will take before the human race stops burning stuff to release energy.  We can just go on refining the methods and means of combustion, but in doing so we'll just go on acting like more refined and methodical Neanderthals.  Fire, electricity, then...what they were leading to, and which, funnily enough, will allow us to gain a better understanding and appreciation of the former as well.

Sorry for polluting the thread with my ramblings, I guess I'm just venting my impatience with the whole process.  Get the stuff out there already :)



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Iwh,
 
I totally agree.  This is too big to try to fit into the present monetary system.
 
This is free energy, changing the whole situation on earth.
 
Trying to keep such a breakthrough locked into the old economic system is utterly wrong.
 
By giving every single person on earth access to abundant free energy, there will be no need for any economic system whatsoever.
Things will quickly change into a decentralized society, were local knowledge will replace the big organizations that presently tap our freedom.
 
By doing it the old fashion way for personal gain, like Andrea Rossi, will only lead to a centralization of this new technology, making all of us again
dependent upon the big supplyers of energy. How would you guys feel if the big energy companies decided to take over the distribution of future
electricity produced by free energy devices like the AR Catalyzer?
 
Would you accept that?  Paying for free energy?
 
Andrea Rossi is playing a high game. If he loses, we all lose. All but the guys already fat by controlling us as always.
We need a global change on this planet of a magnitude that once and for all gives us back our freedom.
 
Free energy for every single person is that very freedom. Anything else will be slavery, just like the present money slavery of the modern man.
 
OPEN SOURCE is the only alternative.
 
Gwandau

 

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