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TinselKoala

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #120 on: November 17, 2012, 03:07:38 PM »
Yes, it's just a coincidence that the present accepted model can allow the constructions of things like computers and robot spacecraft that journey to other planets. Electrons, gravity.... what nonsense! Computers don't work on electrons or electromagnetism at all. When you get to your second year in EE school, you get to access the Ancient Secret Texts of Mystery (ASTM, I'm sure you've heard of them) , hologrammed into spheres of rock crystal, that explain that all the physics formulae you had to learn to get into EE school in the first place, are just shams and good for nothing, and you will begin to learn the _real_ equations that allow you to design cellphones and spyplanes and communication satellites. Gravity! What nonsense! Robot spacecraft data are all faked, the Sun is at the center of the Universe and the planets are just holographic projections onto the sky.

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #121 on: November 17, 2012, 03:50:25 PM »
  Kesche spends quite a bit of time talking of gaining power in space from magnetic fields.  Unless there is a change in the magnetic field in question I can't see how you can gain power from it.  A conductor traversing a homegenous magnetic field induces o current in that conductor.  A conductor traversing a bumpy magnetic field will of course be able to induce a current.  Our alternators regularly cause conductors to encounter bumpy magnetic fields.  Electromagnetic waves used for communication produce bumpy magnetic fields which induce current in conductors known as antennae.  The near Universe appears to be emitting bumpy magnetic fields in the microwave bands.  Maybe Kesche has a cosmic bacground microwave antennae in mind for his spaceships.  Maybe he can get some circuit to respond to cosmic background infrared bumpy magnetic fields.  Our solar multiplier "tubes" work good for white light but just can't get a handle on near infrared light.  Hmmmm.  Either modern science is amassed with a bunch of total idiots who can build white light antennae but can't make the leap to lower frequency photons or I'm a total idiot for seeing no distinction between photons of one frequency and photons of another other than wavelength.

sadang

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #122 on: November 17, 2012, 04:23:39 PM »
According to some people, science should be something static and permanent, and a law once discovered, must necessarily be valid forever. Eventually, the law may be permanently patched, only by those who follow unabated official path of science! If Tesla would have thought and acted in such way, he did not invent the AC!

And magnetic fields, which speaks about and uses Keshe, is a fundamental plasmatic magnetic field, always dynamic and in interactions with other plasmatic magnetic fields. The entire universe with everything it contains visible and invisible, has a plasma intrinsic nature!. It is pointless to interpret the magnetism of Keshe trough official knowledge of magnetism (800 years old, initiated by Petrus Peregrini!)

At least you should understand that there is a reason so many countries joined his technology. They will not be all crazy!

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #123 on: December 04, 2012, 09:04:17 PM »
According to some people, science should be something static and permanent, and a law once discovered, must necessarily be valid forever. Eventually, the law may be permanently patched, only by those who follow unabated official path of science! If Tesla would have thought and acted in such way, he did not invent the AC!

And magnetic fields, which speaks about and uses Keshe, is a fundamental plasmatic magnetic field, always dynamic and in interactions with other plasmatic magnetic fields. The entire universe with everything it contains visible and invisible, has a plasma intrinsic nature!. It is pointless to interpret the magnetism of Keshe trough official knowledge of magnetism (800 years old, initiated by Petrus Peregrini!)

At least you should understand that there is a reason so many countries joined his technology. They will not be all crazy!
Hi,

I think by 'joining countries' you rather mean curious countries who hope to understand more of Keshe's claims. It does not mean they joined because they felt it proven.

I really tried to follow his claims, but there is no experiment at all, just long monotonous bullsh*tting.

For example, in this video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=98HwpzWEuGQ#t=275s
Keshe explains both gravity and magnetism on Earth being caused by a rotating centre core. WTF? Gravity and magnetism are created by the same thing? Then why Mars does not have its magnetism anymore, while its gravity still exists?

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #124 on: December 09, 2012, 10:37:31 PM »
In his patent he gives detailed explanation.
Can anybody to replicate his system?

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #125 on: December 09, 2012, 10:39:24 PM »
In his patent he gives detailed explanation.
Can anybody to replicate his system?


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gauschor

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #126 on: December 14, 2012, 03:31:29 PM »
I just remembered the announced demo and was looking for reports:
>a demo of the gravity-modification technology is scheduled for Dec. 14

Now I see:

>He says that most European nations were dissuaded from involvement by slanderous misinformation from the "pedophile" Belgium government, who also canceled the Dec. 14 demo

Yeah, sure... who has thought that. Now the evil government is to blame. Come on... seriously... he can fuck off.

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #127 on: December 22, 2012, 08:21:48 PM »
This guy (Joshua Thomas) has posted a replication video for the Keshe Plasma Reactor. In the information below the video (click "Show more") he has a .pdf with other information as well. I haven't felt the need (yet) to try this on my own but some here might. He tends to ramble a bit near the end but the how is pretty clear.

Keshe Plasma Generator~Breaking Laws of Physics~Infinite Energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs

ramset

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #128 on: December 23, 2012, 03:59:14 AM »
Ponto
Thx for sharing the movie, I like OBwankoalas  post above also [his experience in SHHChool].

OB you forgot one thing .......The subliminal suggestions Of the Alien Robin Williams" Nano Nano" , [they been trying to tell us for a long time] !
Everything is not as it seems ,I like Forrests [member here] comment ..

It is almost as if the humans desire and ability to improve his world is somehow tied to the rules regarding the things we can do ,A connection to possibility?[not exact quote]

Tesla had a feeling about this also
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 Originally Posted by Tesla 1908                           
 According to an adopted theory, every ponderable atom is differentiated from a tenuous fluid, filling all space merely by spinning motion, as a whirl of water in a calm lake. By being set in movement this fluid, the ether, becomes gross matter. Its movement arrested, the primary substance reverts to its normal state. It appears, then, possible for man through harnessed energy of the medium and suitable agencies for starting and stopping ether whirls to cause matter to form and disappear. At his command, almost without effort on his part, old worlds would vanish and new ones would spring into being. He could alter the size of this planet, control its seasons, adjust its distance from the sun, guide it on its eternal journey along any path he might choose, through the depths of the universe. He could make planets collide and produce his suns and stars, his heat and light; he could originate life in all its infinite forms. To cause at will the birth and death of matter would be man's grandest deed, which would give him the mastery of physical creation, make him fulfill his ultimate destiny.
Thx
Chet
PS
I would also Beg TK's Take on the ponto vid
And Ponto
welcome to the forum !!

sadang

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #129 on: December 23, 2012, 03:19:03 PM »
Ever, ever, forever will be few men who try to understand things, and all others who even bother who they are! Ever, ever, forever will be few men who try to go only forward, and all others who wnats to stay in place. So Victor, if you want to understand more, keeps your eyes and mind open (both hemispheres, not only the logic and rational one) and try make the necessary intellectual efforts. This is the only way to understand Keshe's technologies! Because these are very real, even you don't understand nothing with your actual knowledge and understandings. The fault is not entirely yours, but the current materialistic science! Will agree later with all what I said here, when will begin to see more than what is written in the school books!

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8I7r3GGxrU
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2pGMLxi8hg
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs



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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #130 on: December 25, 2012, 10:51:34 PM »
This guy (Joshua Thomas) has posted a replication video for the Keshe Plasma Reactor. In the information below the video (click "Show more") he has a .pdf with other information as well. I haven't felt the need (yet) to try this on my own but some here might. He tends to ramble a bit near the end but the how is pretty clear.

Keshe Plasma Generator~Breaking Laws of Physics~Infinite Energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs

Interesting, he got a voltage but did not use it. there was no energy utilized in that video none, nada, zippo.
What load can he run from that. And to claim he is somehow explaining gravity is a joke.

If he has all that energy why did he not light up an led or a neon or something.

Strange video.


Qwert

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #131 on: December 26, 2012, 04:07:37 AM »
Interesting, he got a voltage but did not use it. there was no energy utilized in that video none, nada, zippo.
What load can he run from that. And to claim he is somehow explaining gravity is a joke.

If he has all that energy why did he not light up an led or a neon or something.

Strange video.



I guess, he created the video only for money collected from the amount of views: within several days he already got over fourteen thousand views. I see no benefit from watching it.

Farmhand

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #132 on: December 26, 2012, 10:18:28 PM »
Yes there could be many explanations of why a voltage was developed in that arrangement.

I don't drink alcohol, I have nothing against the consumption of alcohol in general.

But if a guy cannot keep off the beers long enough to demonstrate a so called "device to benefit all mankind",
then his credibility is shot to pieces in my eyes.

When I see a demonstration of a Keshe coke bottle device powering something of significance I will give it a second look.

It is worth noting that Keshe an Meyl are buddies so in my opinion if one is a deceiver then so is the other.

Just because a person has a degree does not make them immune to corruption, selling out for money or threat, or deception.
On the contrary a degree makes a deceiver that is more difficult to "out".

From people with degree's we should expect very detailed and correct power/energy measurements,
if detailed and correct power/energy measurements are not supplied by these people then that is a red flag in itself.

Cheers




ramset

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2012, 11:42:16 PM »
FH
Of course as usual your sound logic Takes the day,And since I can't watch Vids at my home {yet] I have only minimal "info" except an increase /Building charge claimed here.
 
Which I must add ,"I" do not understand ?[yet]
 
As one addendum to your comment regarding measurements and the "educated" [specific fields].
 
The guy at the top of this page ,as well as several other men on these pages
have been giving us an education for many years on "proper measurement"
technique.
 
I see you have been at O.U.R. .......also a proper education to be had there!
 
We grow more informed and effective by the moment ....AND I"M LUVIN EVERY MINUTE !![I believe you feel this way too].
 
And since we need to work together to maximize our limited resources,I would like to add this comment.....
 
You are a good man ,with good input and intentions ,It would benefit our community for you and Duncan to come to a "professional" aggreement!
 This "thing " between you  stifles progress in some places........
And actually keeps some doors closed that need to open.......
Thx
Chet
 
 
 

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #134 on: December 27, 2012, 04:19:38 AM »
AbbaRue, Sadang and all the rest of you inspired by the Keshe theory,

 
To try to duplicate any device refered to by Keshe involves a level of understanding that Keshe so far has not been willing to disclose. Too many unknown parameters lay in the way, making the probability of competitive success just as small as intended by Keshe. Myself being involved in a research laboratory as a product developer in the surface coating industry, I know the size of the so called "window" accessible i relation to the parameters given.
 
Therefore my advice to you guys would be to gain enough understanding to be able to perform a set of tests that may confirm Keshes ideas. If you are not able to configure such tests, your are not even close to having access to enough parameters needed for any actual plasma experiment or whatever area of the Keshe paradigm you want to explore.
 
Do you see where I am coming from?

 
I have since many years been deeply interested in theories describing physical reality from viewpoints other than the ruling orthodox one.
 
It has caught my interest due to the obvious insights gained by the originators, who all seem to coincide on the same absolute disregard for contemporary science. Unfortunately this disregard is not balanced by the set of validation experiments needed to gain any scientific gravity, which sadly leaves these often non scientifically schooled guys out in the cold, since it is my conviction that they all may have som substantial new insights to share, given the proper attention.
 
I have read a lot of wonderful theories, which all seem to grasp the unifying fundament of physical universe, but they just have no value until we find a way to validate them.
 
I just love the Unity theory of David Barclay, it makes everything fit together in a harmonious context, and likewise the Electrical Universe and the Physical model of Keshe, not to forget the amazing thoughts about the dynamics of physical reality by Victor Schauberger and so on and so forth, but there is no gravity to a theory without validation history.

As we say in Sweden, "there has to be meat on the bones".

But since any scientific model is merely ... a model, it is all about which of the models that best seem to endure a correctly performed scientific evaluation method. As we all know, the contemporary orthodox view has the lead in this regard. There just is not any effective test methods yet that fits for the competing models.
 
But again, our present scientific model really does not describe very much in regard to source dynamics, since it unfortunately lacks any fundamental information in this regard, but instead tends to concentrate on the direct practical usage derived from observing the relationship between known physical parameters. Most of contemporary science's so called fundamental laws are merely relative observations without any omnipresent unifying spine. The moment contemporary science tries to close in on any source dynamics of our known so called forces, we seem to get entangled in the paradoxes and contradictions of quantum theory, which obviously is indicating an unfortunate choice of viewpoint taken by science.
 

The ideas presented by Keshe, as well as any other theory with such a magnitude of claim, should only be presented officially if they are fully backed up with repeatedly performable scientifically valid experiments.
 

My input here is not to critisize, but to initiate an interest  in finding ways to validate anything postulated by Keshe, and there actually seems to be one way to put him to test regarding the spherical magneto gravitational field dynamics presented by Keshe. According to his field theory, anything relates to anything else as a separate field, deciding the relative position of particles within the atom as well as the planetary positions in a solar system by their relative field value.
 
This could be put to test by dropping two similarly shaped objects of exact same weight from a certain height, preferably from a considerable height such as a kilometer or more, for example from a helicopter, in a highly controlled manner, where one of the objects contains a big high gauss permanent magnet, and the other object contains a non magnetic and non conductive material. If the object containing the magnet would fall slower than the other object, it would prove the theory of Keshe as well as the Unity theory of David Barclay, which in some instances are surprisingly similar.
 

With this input I want to emphasize the paramount importance of rigourous scientific validation procedure needed to add any gravity to a novel theory.

This is not religion, guys, it has nothing to do with faith.

I am a true connoisseur in this field. There is always an initial period, a so called "honey moon", when you are engulfed by the beauty and harmony of the theory, but if you really are in love, it's you duty to put that love to test.

Gwandau