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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4935 on: July 29, 2014, 01:54:37 AM »
Video of my slightly modified yoke here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3tHWDTXLz8&feature=youtu.be

Mazilli circuit is fun to play with just for better output you might try to introduce high frequency source inside of yoke like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmirRN3O6Ko then see if power consumption drop and bulbs go brighter... ;)
Then you can start playing with resonance between two signal sources and magnetic fields cutting each other on 90 degrees.

Cheers!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4936 on: July 29, 2014, 09:02:48 AM »
Hi Itsu. Something you may consider trying. I wonder if you measure the inductance of  your secondary yoke winding, 
and see if you have some capacitors (may need  caps with a 600V voltage rating) which you can put in series
or parallel with the bulbs to be at resonance with the secondary coil at whatever frequency your ZVS driver is
running at, and see how the bulbs light up with resonance in the secondary winding output. I think you should get a higher
voltage out due to the resonance. This should be similar to how Akula has his secondary winding configured. You may want to
try with just 12 volts first to make sure you don't exceed the voltage rating on the caps you will add to the secondary winding circuit.
Just a thought...  :)

Yeah, that 'special mode' sounds like very possibly unstable operation or parasitic oscillations,
possibly what Nick is getting, although not sure at all there...

Void,

yes i did measure the secondary and reported it here:

http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg411717/#msg411717

where it says:

Secondary measures 140uH, so to reach 26KHz we should add 267nF   (http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm).

But when adding 630V rated poly caps in the 200 / 300nF range it flips over to special mode and i hear a crispy sound
coming from the yoke (not the caps).

Chaotic signals again on both output (but not higher then 600Vpp) and MOSFETs which are impossible to measure accurately for frequency and amplitude.  :(
Will try to use some different caps to see if they can handle the load.


Regards Itsu

   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4937 on: July 29, 2014, 04:55:39 PM »
  Itsu:
  Do you have an adjustable duty cycle and frequency controller that can be attached to the Mazilli circuit, to see if this will help to control mosfet heating and the chaotic response signals?

  I would like to try one of these commercially made controller on my Mazilli, looks interesting, without spending lots of time to make one and obtain the needed parts for it.
  http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/PWM-OCm

  I watched some of your older videos where you were testing the round core crt, and there you mentioned that current draw was something like 22 amps or so.
  What is the circuit drawing now?

  I've been using the 0.22uf to 0.47uf poly caps, 400v and higher voltages. Some other caps also work, but get hot, as they are not rated for higher voltages. The tuning caps are very important on this crt, but I just can't get the right one, yet.
 
  Also, if I remove even just a single bulb, my circuit can drop out of resonance, as the Mazilli is load dependent, and has been tuned to run 5 or more bulbs. And out of resonance it will perform like your "normal", low output no heating mode, as well.
But, this also only gives very minimal bulb brightness, basically of no use.
 
   I bought a new CFL 15w bulb, and connected it with one other incandescent bulb to the circuit. Both bulbs lit very nicely, giving plenty of light, with little heating of the fets, but in two minutes running, the new CFL's circuitry when up in smoke. This has also happened to me previously. But, using CFL bulbs may be an answer to the overheating issue, if using a modulartor crt,  if the right parameters are reached for those type of bulbs. As one 25 watt CFL can provide about the same light that two 60 watt incandescents do.
This may be an option, to run at "normal" mode, and still provide some useable light output.
  This video below was made a while back by me, showing what the yoke set up can do, but the camera is dimming the actual lumin levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCcTInm_EPI

   T-1000:
   I agree that adding HV pulses along with the induction crt is worth trying out.
 I have noticed that fet heating was controled by this at times. So, it might be a matter of using both a modulator crt for the Mazilli, and another one for the HV pulcer.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4938 on: July 29, 2014, 06:24:36 PM »
But when adding 630V rated poly caps in the 200 / 300nF range it flips over to special mode and i hear a crispy sound
coming from the yoke (not the caps).
Chaotic signals again on both output (but not higher then 600Vpp) and MOSFETs which are impossible to measure accurately for frequency and amplitude.  :(
Will try to use some different caps to see if they can handle the load.

That's odd. Regarding the caps, I think as long as the peak voltage across the secondary caps does not ever reach or
exceed their max voltage rating you should be OK. You probably want to stay somewhat below that to be sure.  :)
500V to 550V peak on a 630V rated cap will probably still be OK for short duration tests at least. Wearing safety glasses
might be a good idea if the peak voltage may possibly come too close to the max voltage rating on the caps.  :)




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4939 on: July 29, 2014, 06:31:43 PM »
hi everyone,

Latest update related to my longitudinal wave experiment-

I am now able to power 2 x 250watt =500watt   120volt bulb using less than 4Amp at 24volts at 15% duty cycle.Any higher duty cycle or increasing input voltage by 1volts i am able to blow the 2 x 250watt bulb.

Imagine this 24x4=96watt (did not factor in rms) to power 120volts 500watt bulb at the brink of bulb destruction. :D :D :D
This is at 500% COP.

Anyone wanna to replicate my circuit in the multisim. :) :) :)


I did not mention earlier there is potential to connect to yoke core base on my 1st longitudinal experiment using sine-wave.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4940 on: July 29, 2014, 07:45:58 PM »
hi everyone,
Latest update related to my longitudinal wave experiment-
I am now able to power 2 x 250watt =500watt   120volt bulb using less than 4Amp at 24volts at 15% duty cycle.Any higher duty cycle or increasing input voltage by 1volts i am able to blow the 2 x 250watt bulb.
Imagine this 24x4=96watt (did not factor in rms) to power 120volts 500watt bulb at the brink of bulb destruction. :D :D :D
This is at 500% COP.
Anyone wanna to replicate my circuit in the multisim. :) :) :)
I did not mention earlier there is potential to connect to yoke core base on my 1st longitudinal experiment using sine-wave.

Hi Magpwr. That looks interesting for sure. I am not sure if I understand correctly however.
Did you actually build this circuit, or are you only simulating it?
If you did build it, do you have some scope shots of the input and output waveforms?
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4941 on: July 29, 2014, 08:32:04 PM »
hi everyone,

Latest update related to my longitudinal wave experiment-

I am now able to power 2 x 250watt =500watt   120volt bulb using less than 4Amp at 24volts at 15% duty cycle.Any higher duty cycle or increasing input voltage by 1volts i am able to blow the 2 x 250watt bulb.

Imagine this 24x4=96watt (did not factor in rms) to power 120volts 500watt bulb at the brink of bulb destruction. :D :D :D
This is at 500% COP.

Anyone wanna to replicate my circuit in the multisim. :) :) :)


I did not mention earlier there is potential to connect to yoke core base on my 1st longitudinal experiment using sine-wave.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7oPv4cPzJk ; my own replication... 1 cell was as good as 6 and all were tuned accurately... I saw no step increase like dollard  ( http://youtu.be/6BnCUBKgnnc?t=26m48s )
KdKinen did it also... but he had ups and downs....
 http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=xlgvBepj3Xw and his single cells would probably work as well as 4.


There's no reason to suspect that the energy would stay at one end and not ripple back up the line.
I tinkered with this for a while, and found better ways to get better resonance, but nothing like the original demo.
Please advise what factors might increase the influence.


I did have a strange effect at one point that when driving from the middle, the back pulse would only appear on the right side and the normal driving pulse on the left side.
I was driving with a fairly low current pulse generator.
Well.. in the first test, I eventually upgraded to transistors driven by my tl494 board... so the current limit wasn't the issue.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4942 on: July 29, 2014, 10:55:07 PM »
  Itsu:
  Do you have an adjustable duty cycle and frequency controller that can be attached to the Mazilli circuit, to see if this will help to control mosfet heating and the chaotic response signals?

I do, i tried to replicate severall Akula led selfrunners, all using TL494 PWM's, but i do not see how you can use that on a Mazzilli circuit as it is self adjusting depending on the load.

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  I would like to try one of these commercially made controller on my Mazilli, looks interesting, without spending lots of time to make one and obtain the needed parts for it.
  http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/PWM-OCm

Well, seems nice, but again, i do not see how you would be able to use it on a Mazzilli circuit.

 
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I watched some of your older videos where you were testing the round core crt, and there you mentioned that current draw was something like 22 amps or so.
  What is the circuit drawing now?

I used my 10Amp multimeter to monitor, but stopped quickly when i saw it was pulling 11Amp   :o


 
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I've been using the 0.22uf to 0.47uf poly caps, 400v and higher voltages. Some other caps also work, but get hot, as they are not rated for higher voltages. The tuning caps are very important on this crt, but I just can't get the right one, yet.
 

I did some tuning this evening, but there seems to be a strange selftuning mechanism working in this Mazzilli circuit, so any calculated value capacitance does offset things instead of improve.
Finally when trying to peak the output with some magnets in the yoke (works good) both MOSFETs popped.
Guess they just got to hot  :(

Anyway, not much progress today.

Regards Itsu


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4943 on: July 30, 2014, 12:14:36 AM »
Hi Magpwr. That looks interesting for sure. I am not sure if I understand correctly however.
Did you actually build this circuit, or are you only simulating it?
If you did build it, do you have some scope shots of the input and output waveforms?
All the best...


hi Void,

At this moment it is just stimulation as shown.The current is within 500mV peak to peak via 0.1ohms resistor which i had removed in the scope which shows this is around 4amps or below.It's even harder to show 15% duty cycle current pulsing in the scope to simplify i use multimeter and spotted max reading is around 3.75amp which i mentioned < 4Amps.

My only concern is about the capacitor current handling in actual experiment-The original video is using mica capacitor hence i am getting the same thing.
I am not really concerned about inductor winding to easily get 100uH >1Amps.

Next stage and final stage of the virtual experiment pulsing using mosfet using same frequency and duty cycle <20%.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4944 on: July 30, 2014, 12:30:46 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7oPv4cPzJk ; my own replication... 1 cell was as good as 6 and all were tuned accurately... I saw no step increase like dollard  ( http://youtu.be/6BnCUBKgnnc?t=26m48s )
KdKinen did it also... but he had ups and downs....
 http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=xlgvBepj3Xw and his single cells would probably work as well as 4.


There's no reason to suspect that the energy would stay at one end and not ripple back up the line.
I tinkered with this for a while, and found better ways to get better resonance, but nothing like the original demo.
Please advise what factors might increase the influence.


I did have a strange effect at one point that when driving from the middle, the back pulse would only appear on the right side and the normal driving pulse on the left side.
I was driving with a fairly low current pulse generator.
Well.. in the first test, I eventually upgraded to transistors driven by my tl494 board... so the current limit wasn't the issue.

hi d3x0r,

2 things you would neeed to consider getting or making inductor which can handle high current.The old experiment is using air-core inductor back in their day.I wouldn't recommend the same.
It would be better to use toroids i will be sticking with 100uH (less turns needed means less lost).

I noticed the frequency output only at circuit resonance would be doubled and at times nearly tripled as shown in my virtual frequency counter.


The only concern i have is the current handling capability of the capacitors.I am getting some silver doped mica capacitor at the moment.Can be solved by paralleling mica capacitors together. :)

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4945 on: July 30, 2014, 08:30:07 AM »
Hi to All

If this is true: (from http://prezi.com/fiwgtl78it85/donz-device/)


« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 11:38:09 AM by corry »

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« Reply #4946 on: July 30, 2014, 08:36:42 AM »
Hi to All
50 hz resonance requires a LOT more turns than 50 with 470n. So no.
Power supply does not need 50hz, but is likely to work up to a few hundred kilohertz; but even so the bridge before it is probably fast enough to transform the AC to DC anyway.  The powersupply isn't going to care if it's DC... will just end up using one side of its internal BR.
and F=? is probably less than 100kHz... the original NAND gate pulser doesn't adjust up that far... and only down to like 2Khz(IIRC).

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« Reply #4947 on: July 30, 2014, 08:50:29 AM »
Tnx d3x0r,

maybe, you will get the 50Hz to beat, for example: f1 = 20000Hz + f2 = 19950Hz (or 20050Hz) ...

00 says:

« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 12:15:05 PM by corry »

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« Reply #4948 on: July 30, 2014, 04:58:56 PM »
I did some tuning this evening, but there seems to be a strange selftuning mechanism working in this Mazzilli circuit, so any calculated value capacitance does offset things instead of improve.
Finally when trying to peak the output with some magnets in the yoke (works good) both MOSFETs popped.
Guess they just got to hot  :(
Anyway, not much progress today.
Regards Itsu

Sorry to hear that. That is not so fun when that happens. 

I have been experimenting with a pulser circuit, trying to find anything that
might look like 'ferromagnetic resonance', and also tested out Melnichenko's transformer which
does not give anywhere near overunity for me, but does show an interesting effect.

Also no ferromagnetic resonance found so far, but I did notice that the pulser circuit I am using breaks into major
uncontrolled oscillations when I am pulsing a coil wound on a ferrite core if I touch the frequency adjust pot's knob
while the circuit is pulsing the coil. Even with just 2 volts applied to the drain of the MOSFET, these oscillations were
producing negative peaks around 400V to 500 V peak or more on the primary winding coil being pulsed, with an expanding
trumpet waveform. I found I could also make the pulser circuit break into these same oscillations if I just ran a wire near the
coil and connected it to the control knob on the frequency adjust pot. The voltage peaks generated across the coil were so high
that it caused corona discharge arcing between the insulated magnet wire in my step up secondary winding, burning right
through the insulating coating on the magnet wire. This also caused my power supply, which is not a switching
power supply, but a regular transformer power supply with some digital control circuitry, to go completely out
of whack as well, with the meters showing much higher current and voltages than the regulated power supply
was set to. Even though the drain was only being driven with 2 volts, I had to have the current limiting
on the power supply set to limit to just about 0.3 A and I was still getting negative peaks in an increasing trumpet waveform
in pulses across the coil that were in the 400V to 500V range. I thought maybe the ground clip on my scope was causing a ground loop
or RF feedback back to the regulated power supply, so I isolated my scope from ground and these major uncontrolled
oscillations would still happen when I touched the frequency adjust knob on the pulser. I may try this again
using a battery for the power supply, but it seems the pulser circuit is prone to major unstable oscillations.
I have been connecting everything together with alligator clip test leads, so that can be a cause of making oscillator
circuits unstable. Anyway, although the huge unstable oscillations in my pulser circuit are interesting to see, it
doesn't appear to be anything related to 'ferromagnetic resonance' that I can pinpoint anyway. It just seems to be
an instability in the pulser circuit, probably enhanced by the long alligator leads I am using in my test setup.
It is odd though that the regulated power supply seems to be going berserk and outputting much higher voltages
and currents than it is set to. I will try to get a battery or two to test this with since it may be that the control
circuitry in the regulated power supply is getting messed up by the large pulses feeding back into the power supply
terminals. I tried putting chokes on the power supply lines and this reduced the tendancy for the unstable
oscillations in the pulser somewhat , but it did still happen.






« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 09:06:28 PM by Void »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4949 on: July 30, 2014, 05:08:24 PM »
At this moment it is just stimulation as shown.

Ah OK, I see. Simulators can be very helpful when designing circuits, but they can give misleading 
results sometimes depending on limitations and quirks of any given simulator, so I think it is
always a good idea to build the circuit and test to see if it behaves the way the simulator is suggesting,
before attempting to draw any conclusions. Even though you may be seeing unusual results in a simulator,
until you actually build and test the circuit you really just can't be sure how it will really behave.
All the best...