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GeoFusion

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7215 on: November 26, 2014, 05:46:28 PM »
Hi Nick

Yes, the RMG needed that much only of coiling to reach 120~ 150V, but as I connect load the voltage will be consumed,
even for the bifilar coil that was connected underneath the 80 winds, that was about 200Winds ~  gave me + 300 volts on 24V dc
and 900V at 36 with more caps.  But the voltage is being consumed as to see the same in lastest Ruslan vid when connecting load.
but at 36 Volts I could shatter my mosfets by just one shorting. very fragile.  But this is making alot more sense now.

It's total charging of all the caps I had in parallel and , my own drossil that carried 2 or 3 caps on it, 10 to 25 winds I remember.
which amplified the output a bit more. My caps are 0.33uf 630, and had  42 of them.

If we understand this correctly, the inner drossil of akula first device can be the massiv storage of power to output highly charged cap.
does not need ground as we saw, but He did say when connecting the ground wire, the output and brightness is way better and
also makes the circuits run much cooler.

Imagine having a cap charge of 1000+ VDC, that is load :) to do many wonders with it. radiant is the way out.

SR193, He also used caps if we go back, but he used Ferrite for amplification, alot of magnetic transmutation going on but good power.
High voltage to be rectified? it might be and charge the cap(s)

Will be posting other First akula Device schematics with Drossil but also the schematic of his driver with TL494 and IR2110.

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« Reply #7216 on: November 26, 2014, 06:00:08 PM »
I guess there is no reasonable chance than we can get people to stop constantly spamming this thread
with all sorts of unrelated and/or very questionable schematics of unknown origin, and telling us exactly how
we must do things when they have actually no working circuits to demonstrate what they are stating as absolute facts.
Remember ideas are only ideas unless we can clearly demonstrate it with a working circuit. ;)
I guess that is the internet for you.  ;D  I think I will go off on the side lines now for a while and focus on my experiments.
I may check in from time to time, and I will report back if I find anything of interest.
Good luck guys.
All the best...

Agreed, too many 'expert' opinions and statements of fact with nothing to back them up! We have a better chance of success making up our own circuits! Good idea about sitting on the side lines as I'm beginning to spend more time on the PC than at the bench!! Bye to all for now. Like you, I will report back anything interesting. Good luck to all.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7217 on: November 26, 2014, 08:51:43 PM »

Jeg, Void,

i had this discussion about the 90° phase shift earlier here with menofFather.
I put up a simple test which shows that a current transformer introduces on its own a 90° phase shift even when measuring resistive loads.
I have a 220V/12V transformer which has a 12V/21W bulb attached.

I measure the voltage acros this bulb, the current through this bulb and the voltage acros the current transformer.

What you will see is that the voltage (blue) and current (green) are in phase as it should be with a resistive bulb as load
But the current transformer voltage (purple) shows a 90° leading or trailing (depending on how the probe is attached) signal, see screenshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox5tkwjSNY&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu.
It was a really nice idea of you to make this test. We have already many variables to mess with. Did you manage to take this Ruslan sinus output with the HF imposition? The one that also magpwr mentioned.

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« Reply #7218 on: November 26, 2014, 10:37:50 PM »
Hi folks,

I'm reading your thread about the last 50 pages and am fascinated by your outcommings. A real good job you're doing, each one in his own way and abilities. I've learned much about the circuitery and principles by just reading of your problems and their troubleshooting. Keep on going this way.

About schematics: there is a lot of nonsense out there, with things that i even see in the schematic will not work. Not for any overunity reason. Well, the only solution i see is, choose your principle you want to follow, set up your own raw schematic on that principle, work out and fill in the fine details of that schematic, and then get experience and test that you think it should do.

That's the way build up this topic for me. I've seen a lot of overunity phenomena the recent time, so that i think, that these all are not fake in sum up. Maybe there are some, but not all of them, and that's the reason i'm hunting down a kapanadze style device at now.

For myself i got my own circuit of a Kacher, and a own circuit for the inductor. These were some breadboard tryouts, and i've had a fascinating experience on that kacher system. In the first i had a current limiting halogen bulb (12V/10W) in the circuit brightly lit. After some mods my Kacher is now at high voltages (lighting tubes/cfl and sparking) and the limiting halogen is just smoldering hardly to see.

Just for the fact, and it's not the Ruslan (or Akula) circuit anymore, but it's the sharing principle. I'll post it, if it's cleaned up. At time i'm setting up a complete device on these development and this will take the next 2 or 3 weeks, we'll see.

Some arguments I've keeped on my tongue till now:

1. for an overunity device you'll need an appropriate load on the device. A principle resulting of the works of Professor Claus Turtur (http://www.ostfalia.de/cms/de/pws/turtur/FundE/English/). For the use ZPF energy you'll have to have two resonant systems energetically coupled by a field principle. I tell this a double resonant system. Within the energy exchange you can harvest energy by a load (mechanical or electrical) and this will be filled up again (and again ...) by the ZPF. Why the load ? Because even the double resonant system heads to resonance, and if it is there it doesn't need to fill up energy any more or just a little in the cause of natural losses. Only if there is a load "the losses" superseed resonance and the system will try to fill up. But these can be overdone and the system may find another resonant state: the still standing. OK, and if we point on that "resonant state" there is another mode of those systems: when we pump energy to those systems and the nearest resonant point is the standing still. Well, then energy is given away (to the environment), until the point of resonance (still) is reached.

To make a long sentence short: Always use a load on that point of the circuit where you want to get the energy out. The system may run into resonant mode without giving any other sign. And best is to have a feedback circuit ready, like the PSU. The feedback may compensate for the points of destructive resonance that have to be overcome.

2. I lately read that Utkin document again, and i got curious about the statement of Tesla of hiding charges in a grounded capacitor. Or of hiding the magnetic field of a secondary coil in a primary coil. The later is quite simply explained: the magnetic field goes around the coil of the secondary. Inside in one direction and outside the other direction to close the field loop. In a wire loop around a closed magnetic field loop, no voltage is induced (the sum of the magnetic forces in one direction is equal to the sum of magnetic forces in the other direction within the area of the wire loop). If the diameter of the primary is large enough the secondary can't induce on the primary. But as the secondary is always in the diameter of the primary, the secondary will always be induced by the primary.

We have some sort of AC diode here. As i started, there should be an analogue principle with the capacitor, but i didn't get it yet. And this may be crucial to the field between antenna and grenade (in some way connected to ground) as this is some sort of capacitor.

Any suggestions ?         

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7219 on: November 26, 2014, 10:37:50 PM »
Hi Itsu.
It was a really nice idea of you to make this test. We have already many variables to mess with. Did you manage to take this Ruslan sinus output with the HF imposition? The one that also magpwr mentioned.

Thanks Void and Hoppy for your input / help up till now.


Jeg,  thanks,  not sure what you mean by "Ruslan sinus output with HF imposition".

I have the standalone Grenade sinus signal (resonance of the bifilar inductor coil at 35KHz) yellow trace, see screenshot 1 and when i activate the Kacher this Kachers 1.309MHz HF signal gets superimposed onto this Grenade signal, see screenshot2, is this what you mean?

The purple trace is the signal picked up by the current transformer in the bifilar inductor coil next to the 235nF (2x 470nF in series) caps, it needs to be taken x 1000 as the used HV probe (x1000) is not detected by my scope here.
You see that in both cases the voltage (yellow) and the current (purple) are in phase, but we now know that the current transformer introduces
a 90° phase shift, so i reality, the voltage (yellow) and current (purple) are 90° out of phase.
But be aware, this is voltage and current of the 2 different coils (Grenade and bifilar inductor).
No flipping of the phase when activating the Kacher in my case however :o

This should be the same test as being done by Ruslan here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8RcRlzk16w

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7220 on: November 26, 2014, 10:42:42 PM »
I don't know if I mentioned but my coil gets warm when generating higher power outputs...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO5YnF7BeOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ayR33hcwc


ZVS driven kapgen w/ ferrite core...


it's 5-9W input... and 100-200mW output ... but the percentage of output increases more with voltage...


but; a ZVS has no sharp edges.  although sharper with higher voltage at the same frequency...


put a resonant capacitor from between the choke and coils to ground to reduce input and increase output.
really needed to put zeners ... think I shorted something somewhere anyway... but I almost don't want to push 18V.... But; if I put any low resistance loads (like incandescent bulb) it doesn't light; and it reduces the overall voltage on output (really should confirm what postivie and negative is)


Part of the reason I went with a JT driver is because of the sharpness of the edges... Similar to what the kacher output looked like on the overunity post of brovin video recently shared... it's kinda the same thing... was going to use just the one coil, and use the output of the kapagen to trigger originally; but couldn't get that to work...


was also down to almost 54Khz frequency...


Grounding any point on the output reduces the voltage on the output...
And (probably repeating myself) the load is now strongly visible on input power... but I guess 50 in 200mA is a more than 50 in 2000...
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But really none of that matters, because it really needs a different sort of driver.
wish the output of TL494 was like 555 timer out


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3x and X waves superimposed can end up driving one out ... and become more like a triangle waveform.
when I return to lower voltages 3x harmonics start showing up
further evolution flattens the top and bottom and increases the slopes so it is more sine-wave-like...

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« Reply #7221 on: November 27, 2014, 02:40:36 AM »
Thanks Void and Hoppy for your input / help up till now.


Jeg,  thanks,  not sure what you mean by "Ruslan sinus output with HF imposition".


Yes that is what I meant! Nice waveform. Do you see more difference (when you fire katcher) than that when you first showed us inside this black box?

itsu

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« Reply #7222 on: November 27, 2014, 09:36:46 AM »
Yes that is what I meant! Nice waveform. Do you see more difference (when you fire katcher) than that when you first showed us inside this black box?

Jeg,

this situation above and the one when using the black box are not comparable.
In the black box situation i had the circuit hooked up as normal, so Grenade to ground, 28 turn yoke, 10uF caps, bulbs etc.

In the above situation i mimicked the situation of the video presented by Ruslan where he had disconnected his Grenade coil
and hooked it up to a FWBR and some caps, so without the ground, 28t yoke, 10uF cap and bulbs.

I did create the above situation earlier in which case the superimposed output was way lower, but i was running on different
push pull and Kacher frequencies, see here:
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg422291/#msg422291

Somehow the present situation is much more powerfull (Kacher is tuned to the grenade resonance frequency).

Regards Itsu
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 01:31:55 PM by itsu »

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« Reply #7223 on: November 27, 2014, 10:35:11 AM »
Basically, yesterday i was trying to raise my Kacher's output. With my surprise when i put a mass of aluminum inside grenade's tube, covering the space inside between tesla coil and grenade, my output has got brighter. I suspect that Ruslan has inside his tube similar stuff. I will test to put inside a second tesla coil tuned to kacher's frequency to see if there is any more output increment. 24V supply for kacher is just not enough. It gives something but not at the right amount.

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« Reply #7224 on: November 27, 2014, 11:44:16 AM »
@itsu
can make some tiny capacitors to connect in parallel with grenade to lower the frequency slightly...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfeiMINnPJ4  (p2 http://youtu.be/p5JWn9lm9Cw )

Coil cap is 2-3m of wire ... maybe something like speaker wire or lamp cord in a length is a small capacitance...  (25pF... when you coil's capacitance is 150-250 that's like a 10-16% increase resulting in decreased in frequency)
plate caps are really multilayer which increased capacitance...then is variable by applying pressure... some people have nice variable aircaps :)

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more experiments; changed mosfets... they end up with a double-ringback ... they're not overvoltaged; but instead of having the nice smooth mazilli curve it's got a ringback in it; although I can change condition so it does... but without it, the output isn't as good.... which really there's something about nice sharp edges that's a good thing...

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« Reply #7225 on: November 27, 2014, 11:52:43 AM »
Basically, yesterday i was trying to raise my Kacher's output. With my surprise when i put a mass of aluminum inside grenade's tube, covering the space inside between tesla coil and grenade, my output has got brighter. I suspect that Ruslan has inside his tube similar stuff. I will test to put inside a second tesla coil tuned to kacher's frequency to see if there is any more output increment. 24V supply for kacher is just not enough. It gives something but not at the right amount.
when messing with the foil winding, it seemed to affect the inductance... requiring retuning... something about the diamagnetic field induced in aluminum mass... was an increase in frequency which is why I didn't attribute it to increased capacitance which would be a decrease... so seemed like a consumption of part of the inducted field...


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« Reply #7226 on: November 27, 2014, 01:35:31 PM »
@itsu
can make some tiny capacitors to connect in parallel with grenade to lower the frequency slightly...


Hi d3x0r,

the Grenade is not the problem, the bifilar inductor is, as i cannot seem to get it into resonance at the Grenade/Kacher frequency
besides the push pull frequency it already is running on (not sure if this bifilar coil needs to be resonating at the grenade/kacher
frequency though).

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7227 on: November 27, 2014, 02:03:39 PM »
Hi d3x0r,

the Grenade is not the problem, the bifilar inductor is, as i cannot seem to get it into resonance at the Grenade/Kacher frequency
besides the push pull frequency it already is running on (not sure if this bifilar coil needs to be resonating at the grenade/kacher
frequency though).

Regards Itsu
I see; what I understood it might be was a high current resoannt at a subharmonic... and the high voltage from the kacher... in theory to mix the 2 and have high power high voltage output... so at a harmonic, but not the same...


can you move your kacher top coil that's around the grenade?  you really want to keep it over the longest section... having it overlap was a destructive interferance

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« Reply #7228 on: November 27, 2014, 03:23:49 PM »
  Geo and All:
   Last night I placed the same pieces of ferrite that I had used previously inside the PVC former tube of the RMG project. But, this time inside the grenade tube.
Although I am still using the small 200v fets (IRF634B), the bulbs did brighten up, as expected. They would probably get even brighter if I were using the normal IRFP260N fets, as they give much more output, and gain over the smaller fets.  So, maybe try some pieces of ferrite inside of the grenade, some time.
  I also placed several magnetite magnets inside and around the yoke core, and noticed an even higher increase in frequency, and output, as well.

  I'm still waiting for my order to arrive of the IRFP260N fets from China, but I'm doing what I can with what I have, for now.

  Although some may not agree, tuning the various circuits for maximum output, in order brightly light the bulbs, is not, neither here nor there.
  As just having a couple of dim bulbs glowing will not allow for a working feed back path.  And just high voltage, with little current to go along with it, is not enough, either. The higher the voltage is raised, on both yoke/grenade crt, as well as the Kacher, the lower the amperage will get.
So, you could have 1000+ volts, but can't hardly light the bulbs.
 
   Connecting the flyback core to my half wave bridge, and capacitor(s) for the feed back loop will be next. I had noticed much increased at the output, and at the bulbs, when I did this previously, compared to when I had not connect the loop back to the input.

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« Reply #7229 on: November 27, 2014, 04:21:57 PM »
Reading up on the circuits here these last few days got me to think there is something to harmonics after all. Harmonics MAY be the answer. Ive seen this effect a few times but did not pay attention until now.

If someone has a circuit to make harmonics in the vicinity of 10kHz I'd love to see it.

(http://s16.postimg.org/h3q1dq4qp/acaiihag.jpg)