I was thinking about a law of physics this morning."Formally stated, Newton's third law is: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." It's a basic law but it struck me that it may be over generalized. If filling my coffee cup with coffee takes a certain amount energy so would emptying it in the exact same way. If I turned the coffee to steam to do work by way of steam pressure to empty the cup are the actions of filling and emptying the cup still equal. Excluding the all other things and just working from the point of view of filling and emptying the cup?

bajac:
I cannot do the tests exactly as you propose for lack of good testing equipment. (low budget)
I´ve got a power supply from a PC, modified in one of the 12V positive out wires with a variable voltage regulator.
Got only one analog ammeter up to 3 Amps, do not trust the cheap digital ones. (no oscope)

The test I did with this setup, was not intended for checking efficiency, but I noticed that in that fault condition (coil shorted),
the RPM of rotors decreased visibly, while the amps at prime mover input stayed same, 0.3A at 3V.
Also be aware that these rotors are metallic, so the flywheel effects have to be accounted in the equation.

Nevertheless, I´ll try to do some tests as accurate as I can in the direction you posted. Need some time next week.

Of course my setup is not a replica of yours, it was made long before when working with Adams motors. (see in the pic the tiny cubic neos around the upper rotor)
cheers

Nobody likes a "know it all" attitude!
However, I have learned to learn from my wost enemy. My worst enemy is certainly not Fernandez.
Anyway, when he stated that Tire Irons were made of Iron, I was extremely skeptical. So I got my
tire iron from my 2004 Ford pickup truck and gave it the "old" spark test. Sure enough, the sparks
are those from white or grey iron.

Good luck all,

Shadow

McFarlande , Interrupt the feed of a DC motor with the secondary of a transformer , take the primary of that transformer and feed it to the primary of a second transformer, now run the secondary of that transformer to a bridge, collect the output for free.
artv

yes yes
I can do that,
I can feed the dc motor (prime mover) at different power levels (Volts & amps) not only amps.
Will do it with an inductive load (dc motor at output side) in which I can check the RPM, or with a resistor across the output leads.

I have been searching Youtube using the following keywords "coils permanent magnets lenz". I have found a lot applications that seems to support the theory in the paper that I posted couple weeks ago. One of them called my attention and I was wondering if it was ever built. The apparatus I am referring to can be found at this link:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue1qPgUCm5k


It is very close to what I described but still does not follows the recommendations derived from the Figuera's generator. Dan Frederiksen, the person who uploaded the video seems to have experience with this type of generators. In the description, he stated the following:

"The advantage of no iron would be low weight and high efficiency, particularly at low torque cruise which will be key for future vehicles."

Is this high efficiency due to a much lower drag? The problem with wind generator is that you usually do think of the output power versus input power. It is usually wind speed versus electrical power.

Did you know that the theoretical maximum efficiency for a wind turbine is only 35%? It only includes the blade mechanism. That is, about 30% of the wind energy may be recovered, only.


These two websites seems to be very aggressive on research and experimentation with free energy devices:

www.alt-nrg.org

http://www.overunitybuilder.com/lenzlessquale.html

They seem to be constructing and testing a lot of prototypes.

And this one is a good compilation of free energy news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K2wm8tn088
 

My point is that people are already using the benefits of the coreless coils but yet they have not realized its true potential. The reason may be because of the way they use the permanent magnets. The permanent magnets are being used the same way as illustrated in figure 10b shown in the paper. It is very inefficient because the net induced voltage is low due to the coil crossing the magnetic fields in two directions simultaneously.
 
 

Fernandez,

Clearly you are writting about the patent from Daniel Mcfarland Cook (see image attached). I think that that design worked fine but till now none have been able to replicate it, but i do not see new information disclosed by you apart from suggesting us to test it. Maybe you are right, but I am not sure if Figuera 30378 is based on this design. I remember that user NRamaswani used a similar design.

This design includes a battery not shown in the design. Once again, this circuit needs a "Violent Field Collapse" to trigger the oscillation!