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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2334706 times)

RandyFL

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2040 on: March 26, 2015, 01:36:07 AM »
Hello All,

Doug...
I bought " soft " iron and wrapped it with 26 awg magnet wire... but I didn't wrap very many turns... maybe 100 turns and used a larger gauge magnet wire and maybe 25 to 50 turns in the secondary........................................
I just received 18 gauge magnet wire and 14 gauge magnet wire for the secondary...
I will wrap:
300 to 400 turns of 18 gauge magnet for the primary s
200 turns of 14 gauge for the secondary...
I will also use:
six 2 ohm 25 watt wirewound resistors
one 1 ohm 25 watt wirewound resistors

and see what the results are...
I also have to use heat sinks on the 8 BDX53s ................................will post results as they arrive.

All the Best
Randy

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2041 on: March 26, 2015, 06:09:12 AM »
Randy:

Yours is a classical step down transformer set up. You need to double the length and turns of the secondary as the primary. Otherwise you are not going to get any results.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2042 on: March 26, 2015, 07:30:31 AM »
26 mar 15   02:26:00

at this point... I'm just trying to get A result.
oh by the way... do you know how hard it is to wrap 14 gauge wire around a half inch too small piece of iron...

randy

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2043 on: March 26, 2015, 09:55:31 AM »
1/2 inch diameter iron..What is the length? I have used all types of wires up to 6 sq mm wire and we have 14 gauge magnet wire as well.

Please go here..

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/solenoid.html

Calculate the number of turns needed and amperage needed to be given to reach 2.7 Tesla..

The input should not exceeed 2.7 to 3 Tesla range. Even earlier than that the iron will become very hot. You must also cover the iron first with a plastic sheet or paper to insulate it. Otherwise it can result in the circuit breaker or fuze being blown out due to the eddy currents in the iron and the induced current in the secondary short circuting each other.

Your turns may be very high for the iron core size. Never exceed 20 to 25 turns per inch unit length depending on the input.

I have used 4 inch dia and 6 inch dia cores packed with iron rods. And they were 18 inch long. If the Magnetic field strength goes up very high iron will become so hot it can melt. So calculate the number of turns, the input amperage given, voltage and then proceeed.

If you are using a 6 inch long iron as I suspect from your 1/2inch dia iron..then the number of turns are very high unless you intend to give very minor voltage and amperage. That may not have any effect really. Some amount of voltage and amperage is needed to be given.

There is no need to duplicate what I did and please proceed at your own pace.

Best of Luck to you.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2044 on: March 26, 2015, 12:10:42 PM »
3/8 inch square
2 1/2 inches long...

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2045 on: March 26, 2015, 12:17:18 PM »
I wrapped insulating electrician's tape around the square iron...
In hind sight I should have left the iron round on the inside and squared the ends off ( with a bevel finish )...........
2 1/2 inches is hard to wrap anything with as its too small to handle...
plus if I need to have a gap between them... it changes the finished product...

All the best

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2046 on: March 26, 2015, 12:44:05 PM »
Randy:

2.5 inches long is how long?. It is just as long as a finger size for most people in the world. Slighly above the length of a standard 9 volt battery. Half the diameter of a 9 volt battery. What can such an iron do?

With due respect, What are you going to do with that size..Are you going to send milliamps of current through the wires. Most of the current will be wasted in the wire itself due to heat.

If you put a permanent magnet on the wire properly in the central core you are likely to get more output than input for the permanent magnet properly placed will increase the magnetic field strength. No air gaps are possible between two opposite poles of a magnet.

Minimum size should be 2.5 inches dia and 9 inches long. This will make a lot of noise when the number of layers exceed 8. A 4 inch dia and 18 inch long core would create a lot of noise when the input amperage is 16 and the number of turns exceed 12..The wires we normally used are 4 sq mm insulated wire.

You are talking about a table top model.For it to work you need to put a permanent magnet in the proper way on the secondary in the middle. Otherwise nothing will happen.

The devices that I built weighed not less than 150 Kgms and are intended for actual use. I now understand how do you expect the Electronics based devices to work.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2047 on: March 26, 2015, 06:53:54 PM »
I didn't have any references to go by...
the soft iron came round and I had a machinist square it... I should have left it round in the middle and squared the ends...
I also should have had the two transformers made not all 7...

Et All

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2048 on: March 27, 2015, 03:05:16 AM »
so using the transformer turns calculator and the iron and 28 gauge magnet wire that I have...
150 turns in the primary
200 turns in the secondary

12volts turns into -------> 16 volts

150 turns in the primary
225 turns in the secondary

12 volts turns into----------> 18 volts

correct?

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2049 on: March 27, 2015, 10:31:02 AM »
Randy:

I'm sorry I'm unable to help you.

What we have seen is that in the Figuera set up transformer laws or principles do not seem to work exactly. If you take one single core it is applicable to a certain extent. If you have two primary and second secondary in between the two opposite poles of two primaries the laws or principles of transformers do not appear to apply. But I must confess that my knowledge of transformer rules are very very elementary.

What we have done is simple. we have understood that the magnagetic field strength affects the output. Greater the magnetic field strength and greater the length of the wire ( so naturally turns of the wire and layers of the coil) and thickness of wire greater is the output wattage. So in a way we have kept on increasing the magentic field strength and explored the methods of obtaining higher magnetic field strengths at lower inputs.

Since I cannot see what you are doing and the sizes that you are mentioning have no relationship to what we did I'm unable to help. I can however say that if you increase the magnetic field strength the output wattage will increase.  That is the only conclusion that I can assure.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2050 on: March 27, 2015, 11:40:54 AM »
27 Mar 15   05:51:05

the Laws of God don't change...
the Laws of Nature don't change...
the Laws of Man always change!
my point is this... magnetism and electricity aren't going to change just because were downsized or enlarged...
over unity isn't going to change just because we Live in Florida or India...
Patrick told (emailed ) me and stated there isn't such a thing as  " free " energy... you have to spend money to obtain the materials...you have to build it and you have to maintain it...

the circuit that's on Patrick's website I built... it works! I have 7 of the transformers in soft iron... I have electrified the soft iron with nine volts and they pick up paper clips and drop them when the electricity stops...they are electro magnets...
I have a 1 Lb. of 28 gauge magnet wire.... I can wrap 100 turns or any turns until it runs out...
I can step up or step down... or step around in a circle if you like...

I have felt the surge of pulsing electricity (magnetism) with a commercial electro magnet...
I have used a commercial miniature transformer and have seen the analog multimeter move on the lower scale of a dc range
But what I haven't seen or witnessed is 12 volts turning into 13 volts etc.............

I am getting ready to switch out 6 100 ohm 1 watt resistors to six 2 ohm 25 watt resistors and 1 50 ohm one watt resistor to 1 one ohm 25 watt resistor...
which is going to send up to 9 amps of power to ? turns of magnet wire around a FE core...with ? turns on the secondary...
so 100 turns of 28 gauge magnet wire on a primary should turn 12 volts into 12 volts on a secondary with 100 turns of magnet wire eh?

incidentally...
there is free voltage coming from the earth... :-)

All the Best
Randy


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2051 on: March 27, 2015, 03:16:05 PM »
I'm sorry I'm not able to understand your post. I do not understand the need for electronics and did not use it.

It is a well known thing that two different earth points will show a small voltage difference. Longer the distance between the two greater will be the voltage difference. This is not new. And is very well known.

You may please see the attached 1893 patent on producing 3 kilowatt of Electricity from Earth continuously. No electronics again needed here but wet ground is needed and all equipment is buried under the earth. At that time the device must be demonstrated to work. Look at the specific voltage and amperage given by the inventor in the patent.  Of course this is actually a part of electrochemistry combined with geomagnetism and the Figuera device is totally different.

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« Reply #2052 on: March 27, 2015, 03:28:45 PM »
that's fine...

Thank you for the info... I will study it this weekend.
I also understand your position of not using electronics... if it works for you. I on the other hand am/are committed to finishing this project with the electronics...it either will show results or not...

anyway...
have a great day/night and I will be posting results and exchanging info as they come

All the best
Randy

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2053 on: March 29, 2015, 12:46:16 AM »
Ok folks here is a nice easy site on how to make your own resisters. Scale to fit and mod as you see fit.
  http://www.cappels.org/dproj/DIY_Copper_Wire_Resitors/DIY_Copper_Wire_Resitors.html

  Funny thing this winding technique, nothing is written in stone.

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« Reply #2054 on: March 29, 2015, 01:30:33 AM »
that's nice to know in a pinch...

interestingly... Tesla and Figueras must have had their own means of resistance...
I like the fact of knowing I can get semiconductors at digi key or mouser online and egad s " radio shack ". I wonder what you do when the 555 or the 4017 s blow?

All the Best
Randy