Randy
 What did people do before IC's? Life did not begin with nor will it end with or as a result of not having IC's.

 I have a couple of prep'er friends you remind me of them. They have lots of stuff stock piled. They could defend off a small army and live off their food stocks for a long time. They ask me what I have done about food storage? I tell them I have invested in skills rather then stock piles. They look at me confused. Then I explain the benefits of primitive weaponry and practice with silence and stealth and having a few prep'er friends who have stock piles of stuff. It's a joke but the look on their face is priceless. Then they start to think about it a little more but they never seems to take the hint that with out skills there is no reason to stock pile. 

@ Doug... its nice to have friends...to barter with...to help in a pinch...to call a friend is to break bread with...you can never have enough friends...
I'll stock pile the 555 s and the 4017s... when the grid fails...or whatever... I'll ride my bicycle to my friends houses (carrying my gun or whatever...)

@Ramaswami...still thinking and pouring over circuits.

All the Best
RandyFL

Forest:

I thank you for your kind words. I'm obliged.

I have read some documents that say if we create an artificial voltage differences between North and south direction placed points through coils of wires wound Natrually in East and west direction..with the earth points being preceeded by a bank of capacitors it is just enough if we create potential difference once and it will keep on flowing through the coil which can be taken from the coil without any interruption. I have not done these experiments. It appears that high voltage differences have to be initiated for this to happen and wet points must be put at both ends.

In Figuera patent it looks that the primary ends are connected to Al Origin. It is naturally the negative of the battery. Possibly it can also mean an an initial earth connection in addition to battery negative and the positive connection can be given to the rotating positive point through another earth connection. It looks feasible but not indicated clearly nor have I done these experiments.

It looks easily doable if we give the feedback coil to the primary in a pulsed DC device. Whatever be the increase in the voltage or amperage can be made to safely go to earth. The device will not burn out. We can have circuit breakers and resistors and metal oxide varistors and capacitors in series to control the votlage and amperage. It looks theoretically correct.

However I have found that whatever theory may say need not be practically observable. If any one has told me that current cannot flow through a wire and an electromagnet can convert the entire energy in to magnetic energy preventing the current from flowing through the wire I would not have believed it. Similarly I have made many devices that produced between 105 to 116% of input energy. Same device produced different amounts of output based on the input voltage fluctations from the mains. In general higher the input voltage and higher the output voltage greater has been the efficiency. The maximum efficiency we have observed is COP>8 but much more could be theoretically produced if the earth connections are present or if the earth and atmospheric connections are present. But these are very risky experiments. We really do not know what kind of amperage increase may come ( or may not come). If low voltage and high currents to be employed we must use very thick wires and highly insulated coils the kind of insulation of multi core cables. Secondary coils must be thicker than the primary coils. Secondary turns must be more than the primary coils. Secondary length should be longer than the primary coils. 

In general I have observed that higher the insulation higher is the amperage that is consumed by the coil. I do not understand this as well at this point of time.

If you wind a coil of secondary first and then continuing to wind the secondary start winding the primary and then still continue to wind the secondary you have the secondary running along with and adjacent to and covering the entire primary. I have seen that we can easily see COP>1 measurements in such devices. Always I have used only a plastic tube to build the devices and I have not used the transformer cores and I have used only soft iron rods and not laminated transformer cores which are less magnetic than the soft iron.

Unless some one is well trained in safety aspects we should not and cannot do these experiments. The possibilty of attracting telluric currents with high voltage differences between two earth points is theoretically very high. It is not prudent to take risks when I'm not trained in these aspects. Therefore beyond a point I felt that we would be taking way too high a risk.

Hanon has asked me to build and demonstrate a cop>1 device. Any one can easily build that based on the experimental results I have posted. It is not a question of one doing it for others to verify it. It is a question of any one being able to replicate the results that would convince the usual doubting persons.

Increasing the output is a question of increasing the magnetic field strength and increasing the number of turns and thickness of wire in the secondary and of course my experiments were conducted only with insulated wires and not with enamalled magnetic insulation. The plastic insulated wires were capable of withstanding 2000 volts easily though they are rated for only 1100 volts. I would estimate that the cables can withstand any thing around 10000 volts althrough it is rated only at 3300 volts.
 
I'm posting these results for there is no point in pretending the wrong way. Only now people are studying again Magnetics in India and believe me the rules and Laws of Magnetics will change and new devices will come. We built rockets and nuclear bombs and missiles from scratch. The magnetics field is nothing compared to what has been done by Scientists in India.  The studies are being made by a number of individuals as well as institutions. It is a matter of time before these devices become common place all over the world.  You may even soon see transparent windows and glass walls of buildings acting like electricity generators. That day may come in less than 10 years.

How can it make and break if it is always in contact? Dont you think maybe it just sends the current more to one set then the other then back again by blocking the flow with more and less resistance as the brush/s travel around the circle? It's a drum by the way with the resister array wrapped around the side of the drum. The Lines of confusion show where the resistive wire connects to the contact bars that make up the commutator. Only the beginning and end of the resistance wire connect to the N and S magnets. not all those additional lines. the more sets of resistance arrays and contact sets ,the more times it will shift the field per second for a given RPM. Maybe I forgot to mention that.

So what you're saying is Fiquera tried to obtain it...and not obtained it...or did I interpret that incorrectly...

I am learning a lot about electronics whilest trying to obtain it too.

:-)

Here is a clarification on the COP>8 output obtained. There were lot of questions earlier how did we measure the Amps to be 20 and Amps cannot be 20 when we have not connected to any load and only voltage without load can be seen. Easy friends. 620 volts and 50 Hertz current is deadly. Can we take a risk. We cannot. We must give it to a step down transformer and step it down and then give it to the load. But we did not give to the loads for we did not have a step down transformer. So how can we measure or see Amps in the Ammeter. This was the question and I elected not answer that in my earliest posts.

It was a common sense decision. We cannot take a risk with high voltage.

We connected the two ends of the secondaries two earth points about 7 feet apart. Nothing more. Ammeter immediately showed 20 Amps and the volt meter showed 620 Volts. Load was provided by the earth between the two points. I do have a doubt that if we provide the frequency at about 7.8 to 20  Hertz we will be creating a resonant frequency to the frequency of earth. At that point the wires must be able to tap the telluric currents. If the distance between the two points is higher the resistance of load is higher and more amperage would be shown.

I have seen other earth based generators that are cop>1 but it seems to me that by connecting a high voltage transformer having thick wires and giving to the two wet earth points we should be able to take power from the earth points. High amperage is possible if we use thick low resistance copper poles inserted in to earth and connect it to step down transformers to get 220 volts.

Figuera shows clearly that the primary negative wires goes to Al Origin. It is deemed to be battery. It can also be two earth points connected to battery negative. Once current is taken from the positive the output from the secondary can be given to the positive and a very low amount of input is enough to rotatethe rotary device. It uses a small DC motor and uses a small batttery.

This is how we achieved COP>8.. Figueras Al Origin means the source. The primary wires take negative charges and the source of Biggest negative charged body we know of is,  Planet Earth. So he has connected the primaries to Two earth points. This is my feeling but we used only AC current from mains. The device is of the type where increasing the voltage increases the amperage without being connected to earth. It is possible that by increasing the turns and giving to a step down transformer we may be able to reach 20 amps naturally and earth points may not be needed and if that is the case a self sustaining generator using a battery, inverter, modified Figuera device, step down transformer and connection back to the inverter to recharge the batteries and excess output may well be possible. But we have not tested it. We have achieved cop>8 results only by connecting to Earth.

Barbosa Patents also show very thick wires being connected to earth.  The Peter Grandics Patent also connect the high frequency high voltage secondaries to two earth points to claim a cop>100 output. It is possible that ths method takes the amperage from the telluric currents.

I'm convinced that the primary being connected to Al origin is nothing but two wet points. The two primary wires are shown in the drawing well separated indicating two earth points at a distance. The device has been shown to work as claimed and inspection certificate was also provided. This is a device any one can make cheaply.

In my case the initial voltage was quite high. 220 volts. Hanon has repeatedly indicated to me that the input was 100 volts and 1 amp only and output was 20000 watts as stated in BuForn Patents. Without the earth connection I'm not able to believe that it is doable. 'With the earth connection yes more than that is doable. it is a known science. Known fact. Too many patents are out there and no patent can be obtained nor granted for such devices.  I have seen comments did Figuera did it or not? Really very insulating to the Genius of the Man. Hanon must be complimented for bringing out full details of a real working device that can be replicated by a dummy like me. I had to spend a lot of money.  A small device can show cop>1 performance easily. I'm not inclined to build it for whenever we have tried after learning this some staff get injured.

I have provided full information. Tariel Kapanadze devices also use two earth points but that is very high frequency I guess. He is dipping in to Telluric currents. And wet points are essential for that. There is nothing else.

Hello All,
We're not dead...
I have been studying air gap cores...and have also been keeping my chair warm...

All the Best
Randy

A.King21.

Thanks for your kind words. It is possible to bring down the input by using very large core for primary and using a very large large number of parallel coils and large iron. It can be brought down to significant levels that the input would be only about 110 watts. If you use lower voltage then very very thick wires will need to be used. Lot of wires and lot of turns and then it would also require more iron. Thicker wires have lower resistance. So can carry more amperage. But again in order to get the turns needed you need to have a lot of wires. It will cost a lot of money.
We have stopped doing this. As I found every one doing this stuff suffers from poor health and their finances suffer. I was no exception.

Transformers are built for low cost and are a trade off. For lower cost they create as much of power as possible. They are very very leaky by their design. The square plates leak magnetism to the maximum possible extent. The induced current is minimum. But all this ensures a very long trouble free life for a transformer. So the design was one for the lowest cost, long life and stable operation and effiency was traded off. They were not intended to be generators of electricity. if we modify them they can be used as generators.

If the device were to be built for lower voltage in mind, then the amperage should be higher and the device needs to be bigger. Possibly it can work at lower voltage and higher amperage using a shunted coil design as it is obvious to me. But we have put this info as open source so others can do it. We are not keen to redo all this. We have had enough..No more of it.

When we use a solenoid structure reverse is true. Magnetic losses are minimized and they are lost only at the poles of solenoid. Not all around.