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Author Topic: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills  (Read 94975 times)

MarkE

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #165 on: July 24, 2014, 06:05:48 PM »
Some are set in there way's-no room for anything that's out side of text book science. I have a feeling that even if you could proove beyond doubt that something just isnt as it's writen,they would come up with some sort of rubbish science to explain it away.

We shall see if there is room for self thought soon.
The Catch-22 is that in order to actually know if that idea is correct, then one first has to come up with some device that defies current science.  Ironically, if one were ever to do that, then it is very unlikely they would have the time or the inclination to deal with anyone who might be slow to acknowledge reliable evidence.  One would far more likely be completely consumed with exploiting the discovery.

Consider that if it were true that entrenched interests were spending treasure to spread discouraging disinformation that they must not be very bright, because the return on investment would be quite low.  If one wants to make money by propaganda, use propaganda where it counts:  Getting legislation for stupid things like subsidized and mandated corn ethanol, or a petroleum war.

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #166 on: July 24, 2014, 07:19:38 PM »
Sea Monkey


very true
and we need all hands more than ever [smart working hands]
talk we don't need so much..... ATM


And the Koala is definitely one of our smarter and harder working Hands....
Ken doesn't know this ship and he certainly does not understand our history here.
nor is he familiar with How Brutal we can be with Honesty.....[pushing the limits]


we are much better and stronger with adversity and challenge than we ever would be
as doormats that just believe every claim that blows thru


but that's how _ Men_ are


_Boys_ that's something entirely different...


thx
Chet

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #167 on: July 24, 2014, 07:36:56 PM »
Remember folks...any abhorrent behavior can and will be rationalized and justified.

All it takes is a clever sociopath and a few gullible  adherents to pull it off.

And there's plenty of both around these daze.

Regards...



wattsup

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #168 on: July 24, 2014, 07:55:41 PM »
@CapZero

WTF are you talking about. I tried engaging @TA the best I could and look where it got to. He just laid out his full load of crap that should win the Guinness Record for OU Slobbery.

That's when @TK jumped up and thanks, at least one guy has enough balls.

Not even a slight "Hmmmmmmmm. Maybe I should look at this again", so screw that, I don't need his shit any more then I need yours. I also don't need anyone telling me how magnets work and how they effect TV screens. WTF is this world coming to anyway where brains has been set at a premium. You know what, if people want to believe this guy cause their to lazy to use their own brains, then fine. Lick his ass and enjoy.

Maybe use your brain just one minute to realize the implications and ramifications of what he is saying and falsely confirming with invalid test methodology. Instead of always doing your ''Let's lick the new guys ass cause he can't be wrong''. Saying "reified" 1000 times in a document or saying Einstein was a thug brain 1000 times in a document does not make the document right. Saying no field in space but space in the field 1000 times does not make it right.

So excuse me for breaking your auto-glorification mode because we all know, it's always a regular here that's at fault and never the new guy.

The final thing is this. In his damn test tube video, if what he is saying is true, if the vortex can be maintained against the dust being pulled down by the magnet as he is purporting, then this also means that when the dust was settled at the bottom of the tube, just putting the magnet underneath should send a central vortex up and out of the settled dust. The question is how many 1000s of years are you prepared to wait for anything close to that to happen. So why did you not think about that yourself? You wait for others to do the dirty work then you enter the foray and treat them like shit. What a farce.

If you can't use your own brain to think logically, maybe you should also refrain from criticizing those that do.

wattsup

PS: This whole thing is a major piss-off and waste of more f*&^k'in time.






Madebymonkeys

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #169 on: July 25, 2014, 12:41:37 AM »


Well at least we established one thing here...Madebymonkeys lcertainly lived up to his name.

Madebymonkeys = Guano


Guano is made by sea birds primarily.

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And to be kind, and show there are no hard feelings, I will generously save him a trip to the thesaurus...

Madebymonkeys = Sh!t

Regards...

You should familiarise yourself with a dictionary.

Seriously though, what's this rant all about? It's disconcerting to hear someone go so...mental.
You talk of paid propaganda etc....by whom, what for, paid by?
You seem to have been brainwashed into believing that there is only yourself, and anyone who makes a YouTube video, who can be trusted and anyone else's opinion is bad and somehow personal?
Is it so hard to believe that there are posters here who can, quite quickly, determine whether some piece of electronics or mechanics will or will not function in the desired manner!?
Is it also so hard to believe that those posters are telling people an idea is ridiculous because, simply, it is!

I certainly understand that discoveries are made, sometimes, through failed experiments but that doesn't mean an experiment should be pursued if it is guaranteed to fail. Most of these posted experiments have been done numerous times before and failed...and nobody discovered anything.

I would say you need to man-up and if you don't like what someone is saying, just ignore them and move on with your life, its what the bigger boys do. The little ones tell the tales.

Madebymonkeys

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #170 on: July 25, 2014, 12:55:52 AM »
Remember folks...any abhorrent behavior can and will be rationalized and justified.

All it takes is a clever sociopath and a few gullible  adherents to pull it off.

And there's plenty of both around these daze.

Regards...

You do appear to fit the profile of a sociopath, read back through some of your previous posts.
Sociopaths only tend to have superficial adherents, rarely committed.

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #171 on: July 25, 2014, 02:07:18 AM »
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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #172 on: July 25, 2014, 02:20:16 AM »
  I will respond in bold type in the interest of distinction:
 
 @CapZero
 
 

WTF are you talking about.
 
Sorry you saw yourself reflected in my postings…you weren’t there.
 For the answer to that, you will have to look within.

For instance I did not see myself included in TA’s dismissive comments about people who believed that free energy was possible…even though I considered myself one of them at the time.

I simply realized that he may be right…and that my concept of free energy included a small input charge to get natures ‘wheel work’ start turning…so I was not offended whatsoever.

It comes down to being secure in one’s self image.
 
 

I tried engaging @TA the best I could and look where it got to. He just laid out his full load of crap that should win the Guinness Record for OU Slobbery.
 
Again, that  does not involve me.
 


  That's when @TK jumped up and thanks, at least one guy has enough balls.
 
It takes a little more than balls to smear your perceived adversary as a criminal to gain an advantage in an exchange…what he did when that failed was even more reprehensible…but you can hang with whomever you like, that’s your choice.

 
  Not even a slight "Hmmmmmmmm. Maybe I should look at this again", so screw that, I don't need his shit…that’s between you and he…and again, doesn’t involve me…any more then I need yours.…again didn’t shovel anything your way.
 


I als don,t need anyone telling me how magnets work and how they effect TV screens. WTF is this world coming to anyway where brains has been set at a premium.
 
Again, that’s between you and he.
 


You know what, if people want ot believe this guy cause their to lazy to use their own brains, then fine. Lick his ass and enjoy.
 
I believe you know that I did not state or imply that I believed or accepted anything he said…other than the free energy issue covered above.

I personally prefer to watch and learn, and know enough to keep my mouth shut when people are discussing topics out of my league.
 
 

Maybe use your brain just one minute to realize the implications and ramifications of what he is saying and falsly confirming with invalid test methodology.
 
Thank you, but I use my brain to process things you people offer up…and believe what resonates as truth to me. (subject to change as as noted above)
 


Instead of always doing your ''Let's lick the new guys ass cause he can't be wrong''.
 
I bow down to no man…now you’re just making sh!t up to lower my profile like the forum trolls do.
 


Saying "reified" 1000 times in a document or saying Einstein was a thug brain 1000 times in a document does not make the document right. Saying no field in space but space in the field 1000 times does not make it right.
 
I don’t need anyone to state the obvious to me.
 
 
 So excuse me for breaking your auto-glorification mode because we all know, it's always a regular here that's at fault and never the new guy.
 
Boy, when you’re pissed (needlessly) you sure lose your sense of reasoning. I have to say.
 
 
 The final thing is this. In his damn test tube video, if what he is saying is true, if the vortex can be maintained against the dust being pulled down by the magnet as he is purporting, then this also means that when the dust was settled at the bottom of the tube, just putting the magnet underneath should send a central vortex up and out of the settled dust.
 
Tell that to me when I have developed a better understanding of the matter.

 
The question is how many 1000s of years are you prepared to wait for anything close to that to happen. So why did you not think about that yourself?
 
If you wish you can ask me that when/if I have developed a better understanding of the matter.
You wait for others to do the dirty work then you enter the foray and treat them like shit. What a farce. 
 
Now, you’re making sh!t up AGAIN…I used to have respect for you.
 
 
 If you can't use your own brain to think logically,…A little of your own advice should be taken after given this huge post over an overly sensitive misunderstanding on your part.
 
 
…maybe you should also refrain from criticizing those that do.
 
“Those that do” WHAT exactly, is the question…you really seem intent on distorting my activities here…just like the trolls do constantly…stop drinking their kool aid !
 
  wattsup
 
  PS: This whole thing is a major piss-off and waste of more f*&^k'in time.
 
 
That’s about the only thing you got right...you wasted all that time on this, operating under a false premiss.
 
 Regards…
 
 
 
 

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #173 on: July 25, 2014, 03:22:32 AM »
You do appear to fit the profile of a sociopath, read back through some of your previous posts.
Sociopaths only tend to have superficial adherents, rarely committed.



The troll must not remember his/its previous self descriptive sociopathic post...where the guano was flying out of both ends simultaneously.

If I must, another of Bill Alek's scooters can be had  for him/it to test drive down at the pier.

Regards...


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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #174 on: July 25, 2014, 07:06:49 AM »
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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #175 on: July 25, 2014, 07:24:45 AM »
Run!

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #176 on: July 25, 2014, 08:51:54 AM »


The troll must not remember his/its previous self descriptive sociopathic post...where the guano was flying out of both ends simultaneously.

If I must, another of Bill Alek's scooters can be had  for him/it to test drive down at the pier.

Regards...

Which post is that then?
Once I know, I will try and explain it a little better.

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #177 on: July 25, 2014, 01:25:53 PM »
One troll learns the less said here the better, so resorts to spamming...the other, still at the start of the learning curve.

Regards...



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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #178 on: July 25, 2014, 06:27:59 PM »
Cap
People who live in Glass houses should not pile stones to thro at others...{I should Know]


Respect  and good science will win the day and stand on their own merit..
They need No champion or caped crusaders ...


and by science I do not mean "status Quo" I mean science and investigation,  which takes
cooperation ,education [ *experiments] and sincerity.


Have you read Ken's Book ?




thx
Chet

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Re: Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills
« Reply #179 on: July 25, 2014, 08:29:01 PM »
Chet,

The status quo around here has us going in circles...a change of methodology is sorely needed.

The road through discovery is through experimentation...which includes those which others here find "dumb".

The people conducting these "dumb" experiments should be given help when they ask...not ridiculed.

If someone does not wish to help, they should remain silent and let them conduct their "dumb" experiments in peace.

Traditionally THAT is/has been the road to new discoveries.

But on here that process is/has been nipped in the bud continually. 

Which is why I began exposing certain 'bud nippers' here...after far too many requests to cease and desist.

Speaking of Ken/Theo A...have you noticed how receptive he is to people who do not come at him wagging their finger or stating his theories are wrong without qualification...I am the same way.

And I have not had time to go through his book as yet...my life is/has been ten pounds of guano in a ten pound bag.

I only have short windows of time for things since 1995.

Such is the life of a whistleblower involving high profile politicians.

Hopefully, soon there will be light at the end of this long tunnel.

Regards...