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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1998263 times)

MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2115 on: August 01, 2014, 02:20:25 AM »
Can I buy one with carbon credits?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2116 on: August 01, 2014, 09:35:08 AM »
@Angelic
Hi TK,
First time to post a pic. Hope I did it right. Sony 1970s that I can not find any info on. Do you think it can be used as wired or just components.

May be this schema from an old TV (1974) with Triniton from SONY will give you some ideas.
http://radio-piffret.pagesperso-orange.fr/Materiels_SONY_KV1220DF.pdf
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2117 on: August 01, 2014, 02:07:49 PM »
"With an alternating current the magnetic state of affairs is never a settled one. Each time current direction reverses, so must the orientation of its associated magnetic field. The entire field collapses and rebuilds in a magnetically opposite direction".

"You find some quotes that misuse the word "collapse" for journalistic emphasis",

TinselKoala,

You're full of it! The collapse is not gradual, and furthermore, the reactive current that returns to the system is a negative value. The instant the reverse value shows above the zero line, the "Entire field collapses violently".

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2118 on: August 01, 2014, 03:00:03 PM »
I am glad you are back! What I have been demonstrating is the extraction / conversion of the "OU in VARs" that exists in resonant tank circuits, by using an inductively coupled tuned resonating receiver or Receptor circuit. This method loads the primary tank, naturally, but does not result in collapsing the resonance like a direct resistive load will do. Please check out my latest set of videos. I've shown: running a DC motor on the true output of the resonant system; attaining high voltages without the use of any inductive collapse spike collecting; and various methods of constructing Transverters and Receptors for this system. I am operating at much higher frequencies, though, but the principles will be the same. You will just need larger components to get down to your own resonant frequency range.
(grins evilly)


Thank you.
I'm catching up !
Cheers
Ariovaldo

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2119 on: August 01, 2014, 03:03:41 PM »

Gotoluc lights an LED at no cost by pulsing a bifilar toroid. The toroid has a maget attached, and the LED's connected to an inductor, with the magnet for coil core. Look at the similarities to Tinselkoala's micro QEG:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQe49jH_3lA&feature=youtu.be




This scope shot of LUC'S provide additional dimensions over TK's:

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2120 on: August 01, 2014, 03:09:29 PM »
Gotoluc lights an LED at no cost by pulsing a bifilar toroid. The toroid has a maget attached, and the LED's connected to an inductor, with the magnet for coil core. Look at the similarities to Tinselkoala's micro QEG:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQe49jH_3lA&feature=youtu.be
What, you don't think a function generator is a power source? Now you are misrepresenting Gotoluc's work as well as Tesla's and my own.

Your statement above is also completely wrong. A sinusoidal signal does not produce any abrupt "collapse" in a magnetic field. In fact, a sinusoidal _response_ is the inevitable RESULT of attempting to drive a resonant system with pulses or spikes at its resonant frequency. You are simply wrong.

You also find yourself in the rather embarrassing position of having to explain why _my_ devices work as I say and demonstrate that they do, since what they do contradicts your predictions.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2121 on: August 01, 2014, 03:14:13 PM »
"With an alternating current the magnetic state of affairs is never a settled one. Each time current direction reverses, so must the orientation of its associated magnetic field. The entire field collapses and rebuilds in a magnetically opposite direction".

"You find some quotes that misuse the word "collapse" for journalistic emphasis",

TinselKoala,

You're full of it! The collapse is not gradual, and furthermore, the reactive current that returns to the system is a negative value. The instant the reverse value shows above the zero line, the "Entire field collapses violently".
Synchro1, you are just embarrassing yourself.  TinselKoala's device generates nice, pure, smooth, sine waves.  There is no abrupt/violent redirection of current, voltage spike, etc.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2122 on: August 01, 2014, 03:16:48 PM »
Hi TK,
First time to post a pic. Hope I did it right. Sony 1970s that I can not find any info on. Do you think it can be used as wired or just components.
You have got a great bunch of stuff there. You definitely have two of the old-style flybacks, I think these will not have an internal diode and so will produce an AC output instead of a pulsed DC. I believe the big box is probably a high voltage rectifier system. The adjustable thing is a HV potentiometer used to control the "screen" voltage that comes out the white wires on the right, I think. The big black wires and the suction cups are the CRT anode connections of course and here is where the flyback's HV output will appear.
If the thing were mine, I would remove the two flybacks proper and wind heavy primaries on the exposed parts of the ferrites, immerse them in mineral oil and then drive them with a Royer/Mazilli/ZVS driver and make lots of high voltage arcs and sparks. Maybe do a "dueling flyback" kind of display with the arcs singing (audio modulated).  It's not too hard to find the HV secondary "ground" which will be one or more of the pins facing the camera, and the HV "high" is obvious. But definitely it is best to use your own primary rather than the one that is already in the flyback.

Best to limit the horizontal width of pictures to 1024 pixels or less. 800x600 displays well unless there is fine detail you want to emphasize. Wider pix push page controls and text off the right edge of most screens, as you can probably tell by now.
 ;)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2123 on: August 01, 2014, 03:24:28 PM »
How to find the HV ground pin:
Wrap a 2-turn primary around the exposed section of the ferrite.
Take your voltmeter and set it to the very highest voltage range and connect one lead to the HV output and the other lead to one of the pins.
Use the Function Generator to send a 20 kHz square wave into the primary loop you have made. Start at zero output from the FG and _gently_ give it a little power.
Watch the meter. If you have the right ground pin you will _very quickly_ see a large voltage appear on the meter. 600 volts from just a tiny voltage in from the FG is not unusual.
If you don't have the right ground pin you will see no voltage rise or very little. So _carefully_ power down, move to another pin, and repeat the FG feed.

ETA: Since your flybacks are AC, I just realized you probably should use a rectifier diode like 1n4007 in series with the meter leads, and the DC voltage setting on your meter. All the flybacks I have here have internal diodes so I forget.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2124 on: August 01, 2014, 03:31:17 PM »
Gotoluc lights an LED at no cost by pulsing a bifilar toroid. The toroid has a maget attached, and the LED's connected to an inductor, with the magnet for coil core. Look at the similarities to Tinselkoala's micro QEG:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQe49jH_3lA&feature=youtu.be




This scope shot of LUC'S provide additional dimensions over TK's:

What do you mean, "additional dimensions"? The scope shots show a completely reactive system at 60 Hz. You can produce a screen that looks identical to this with a myriad of systems INCLUDING TBF and ordinary coils. In fact except for the values of the numbers, ALL reactive systems will produce a screen that looks like this. Resonant tanks produce sinusoidal V and I  measurements!  Although there is some asymmetrical distortion in Luc's traces that is not in mine.
Why don't you ask Luc if his coil's inductance and the added capacitance and the resulting frequency of resonance conform to the formulae I have posted?

ETA: Gotoluc's scope is computing the RMS value of the Math VA trace. Why? What physical meaning does "RMS power" have?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2125 on: August 01, 2014, 03:34:23 PM »
Synchro1, you are just embarrassing yourself.  TinselKoala's device generates nice, pure, smooth, sine waves.  There is no abrupt/violent redirection of current, voltage spike, etc.


Tinselkoala's scope is not showing the 90 degree phase shifted reactive power from the field collapse.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2126 on: August 01, 2014, 03:37:15 PM »

Tinselkoala's scope is not showing the 90 degree phase shifted reactive power from the field collapse.

There is really something wrong with you.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2127 on: August 01, 2014, 03:48:01 PM »
There is really something wrong with you.
@TK
Still learning scopes as you know-but why the DC coupling on an AC system?
And what scope program is that one your using,or do you need a cpu scope card aswell?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2128 on: August 01, 2014, 04:01:13 PM »
Tinselkoala,


Very nice scope shot! We're discussing serial events of charge, field collapse and reactive power that are graphically depicted in two dimensions on the scope. In three dimensions the second sine wave at 90 degrees would produce a blinding flash of light from the A.C. field collapse flyback. This is a negative micro henry, because  consumption is positive, so power input measures negative.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2129 on: August 01, 2014, 04:04:40 PM »
@TK
Still learning scopes as you know-but why the DC coupling on an AC system?
And what scope program is that one your using,or do you need a cpu scope card aswell?
The second question is simple. The display is from the generously donated Link 2100 DSO, which uses the PC as its display/control interface. It is similar to the modern Hantek scope that I have recommended several times to beginning DSO users. Unfortunately the Link's math is very limited, it cannot do trace multiplication. I think the Hantek can, though.

The first question.
AC versus DC coupling is the most misunderstood feature of scoposcopy by far. 
All the "AC coupling" function does is to put a capacitor, usually 0.1 microFarad or so, in strict series with the probe's input lead. That is all it does. Period. The "DC coupled" setting is Direct Coupled, duh, without the capacitor.
Now, what effect does this have on the measurements you make with the scope? It should be obvious to you: the capacitor does not permit DC to pass, but it does permit AC to pass. So it effectively _removes_ any DC offset to an oscillating signal, and brings the _average_ of the oscillating part down to the zero reference of the scope's channel. This of course wreaks havok with almost all trace math and measurements, except for p-p amplitudes. You lose the DC offset information and the true amplitude of peak voltages when you use "AC coupled" settings.
OK, what are they for then?
The most often-used reason for AC coupling is to look at small ripples riding on top of large DC offset voltages. If you are DC-coupled and simply select high amplification settings on the vertical control, the DC offset will take your trace off the screen and you may not be able to move it back down with the vertical position controls... and you already know what your DC offset is anyhow. So you select "AC coupled" and bingo! The whole DC component is blocked, your vertical position control stays centered and the _average_ of the Ripple Only is now moved to your trace reference baseline position.

Now-- consider the times we have seen people making claims about power when one or more of their scope measurement came from a channel that is AC-coupled. You could literally have any amount of DC power flowing as offset, and you would never see it.