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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 2022104 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2145 on: August 01, 2014, 11:35:22 PM »
@Tinselkoala,


I noticed with your resonant transverter, output was reflected by input. Gotoluc's magnet core inductor generates it's own current that's not reflected by rise in input.


I noticed the same effect. The noise that is emitted by my QEG when in resonance is like a 5 track Home Theatre surround sound effect. The deep humming very powerful.
 
The magnet is excited by the bifilar primary magnetic field  activity and responds with it's own power generating oscillation that has no return influence on the primary draw.

Then neither you nor Gotoluc will have any difficulty showing a self-running device. Please post the video link as soon as you have it running itself on its own power generating oscillation.

You are misrepresenting your device when you call it a "QEG". It is neither a self-resonating oscillator nor can it function as a power supply for external circuits. But we know how you like to misrepresent stuff.

TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2146 on: August 01, 2014, 11:38:18 PM »
@TinselKoala
"Is this result equal to the "Math rms" value on the scope screen? Which value is correct for the power represented by the scope V and I traces?"
Answerd 1: NO
Answerd 2: 0
The red scope display is the instantaneous power value, but it does not take it as a power but take it as voltage, so it display "instantaneous power value"max/sqrt(2) : the max on the red curve is when the V and I curve cross, and they croos at 2.5 divisions in Y, so max red curve value is 
2.5*100(V/div) * 2.5*0.32(I/div)=82.5 
and the MATH RMS displayed is 82.5/1.414=58...
But this is not the power it PowerVA/sqrt(2), it's nothing...
True power is AVG (on one cycle)/T=0  in W
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Exactly.

I wanted Synchro to answer those questions for himself, though, since he posted the scopeshot in the first place as evidence of... what I'm not sure, but there is NO real power shown on that scopeshot and the "MATH rms" value is meaningless.

tinman

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2147 on: August 02, 2014, 12:51:32 AM »
@tinman: I've got several vids dealing with the issue of AC  and DC coupling. Here's one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVFyaQY6pR0
I'm a little annoyed in that video because I've been trying to explain these issues to LTseung for some time, since he is one of the culprits who have shown power measurements from AC-coupled channels, removing the DC contribution to the power he is trying to measure.
Thanks for all the info TK,i will go have a look at your video.

synchro1

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2148 on: August 02, 2014, 01:53:35 AM »
Then neither you nor Gotoluc will have any difficulty showing a self-running device. Please post the video link as soon as you have it running itself on its own power generating oscillation.

You are misrepresenting your device when you call it a "QEG". It is neither a self-resonating oscillator nor can it function as a power supply for external circuits. But we know how you like to misrepresent stuff.


I ran pulse current through the primary bifilar from a Vellamen PWM I built from kit form, and recovered output from my magnet core bifilar toroid. I designed this kind  of device in theory on the "Solid State Synchro Coil" thread. I've been experimenting with magnet coil output recievers for over a decade.


Just because I have a photo voltaic panel that generates power dosn't mean I have to cover my roof with them to show it works. Gotoluc demonstrates the effect sufficiently, without pioneering a Power Company!

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2149 on: August 02, 2014, 03:09:01 AM »
Please Synchro do some research, here's a good link below. Ignore the "beginners" label to the page the info is very good.

http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr.htm

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4.   Interesting Things About Transformers

As discussed above, the impedance ratio is the square of the turns ratio, but this is only one of many interesting things about transformers ... (well, I happen to think they are interesting, anyway ).

For example, one would think that increasing the number of turns would increase the flux density, since there are more turns contributing to the magnetic field. In fact, the opposite is true, and for the same input voltage, an increase in the number of turns will decrease the flux density and vice versa. This is counter-intuitive until you realise that an increase in the number of turns increases the inductance, and therefore reduces the current through each coil.

I have already mentioned that the power factor (and phase shift) varies according to load, and this (although mildly interesting) is not of any real consequence to most of us.

A very interesting phenomenon exists when we draw current from the secondary. Since the primary current increases to supply the load, we would expect that the magnetic flux in the core would also increase (more amps, same number of turns, more flux). In fact, the flux density decreases! In a perfect transformer with no copper loss, the flux would remain the same - the extra current supplies the secondary only. In a real transformer, as the current is increased, the losses increase proportionally, and there is slightly less flux at full power than at no load.

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TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2150 on: August 02, 2014, 04:19:59 AM »
Please Synchro do some research, here's a good link below. Ignore the "beginners" label to the page the info is very good.

http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr.htm

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Why should he ignore the beginner's label? If the shoe fits, he can wear it proudly.

A decade of constructing confirmatory demonstrations can be completely invalidated by a single proper TRUE EXPERIMENT.

TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2151 on: August 02, 2014, 04:30:56 AM »
Meanwhile... here it is August 2 almost and there has been no word from Pennsylvania, no word from the UK, no word from Florida, not from Taiwan or South Africa, not from Morocco or Germany..... but Jamie was only "hours away from self running" weeks ago, and many dollars in donations have been made since then to help get the Philadelphia Prototype to run by the end of July..... and all I hear is the sound of crickets chirping.

Hey, FIX THE WORLD QEG BUILDERS: your world is broken and you are helping to keep it broken by your cynical fraudulent campaign, which sucks up money and other human resources that would be much better spent doing other things.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2152 on: August 02, 2014, 04:42:11 AM »
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Continuous, 600HZ, 12vdc input, 120VAC output, runs 160-328ft EL, Dimensions: 2 7/8" x 5 1/8" x 1 3/4", Weight: 2lb 3oz. Use at least 2.1 amp power supply when running 200+ feet. Made in USA. Our Price: $89.00

This electroluminescent inverter produces a 120 volt AC current at 600 hertz. This is pretty close to the signal Gotoluc uses in his toroid 2 experiment.


Large diametric tube magnets wrapped in trifilar coils, one series bifilar to run the hi frequency current through and a third for output to diode and capacitor, should generate the same kind of free energy Gotoluc's bifilar toroid does. These magnet generators could be wired in series.


The frequency is is magnifying the field, resulting in the increased reactive current. The field fluctuation and intensity oscillates the output core magnet through the bifilar and generates a current in the output winding free of charge, if the current goes to run the light panel.   

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2153 on: August 02, 2014, 05:03:21 AM »
Here's a scope capture below of the "HV tank" in the set up I had going last night, the setup was,

1) the 18 uH spiral coil with 20 nF across the single mosfet switch, which produces DC "lumps".
2) the coupled tank circuit which is 320 uH - 56 turns and the variable tuning capacitor 40 pF to 1300 pF.
3) the output coil of about 24 uH about 16 turns (wound next to the tank coil)with a tuning inductor with
moveable core (2 to 18 uH) and 20 nF across it all with a FR FWBR and 6.8 uF output cap.

This setup pulled between 80 mA and 200 mA from the 12.5 volt supply, with different loads and tuning.
Tank phase changed only slightly.

I was able to power a small disk drive motor with 10.5 volts and 80 mA from the output or light LED's.

The tank coil voltage is high enough at full tune to make neon's held in the hand near the coil glow. Fluro's can be lit by
touching them to one tank conductor ect.

With this arrangement if the loads are right for the output and the tank is tuned the setup draws more power to
supply the load while maintaining a quite high tank activity.

I've dismantled it to try halving the tank and output coil resistances as well as increase their capacitance.

Yellow trace is the tank voltage. 199 Volts RMS sine wave

Blue trace is the voltage sensed across a 5 Watt 0.1 Ohm resistor. 0.121 v RMS / 0.1 Ohms = 1.2 Amps.

Phase is showing real power being consumed.

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Or could the phase be a result of the fact that the tank coil is a serial connected bifilar "wound" coil with about 400 pF capacitance
between the windings ?
The output coil is also serial connected bifilar "wound". But it's only small.

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Maybe a significant amount of energy is staying in the coil and not oscillating between the external cap and the coil but also
between the coils own capacitance and the coils inductance ?

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« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 08:34:37 AM by Farmhand »

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2154 on: August 02, 2014, 05:54:06 AM »
Meanwhile... here it is August 2 almost and there has been no word from Pennsylvania, no word from the UK, no word from Florida, not from Taiwan or South Africa, not from Morocco or Germany..... but Jamie was only "hours away from self running" weeks ago, and many dollars in donations have been made since then to help get the Philadelphia Prototype to run by the end of July..... and all I hear is the sound of crickets chirping.

Hey, FIX THE WORLD QEG BUILDERS: your world is broken and you are helping to keep it broken by your cynical fraudulent campaign, which sucks up money and other human resources that would be much better spent doing other things.
My sources tell me that Jamie has in fact been successful and has managed to close the loop and create a self runner. Unfortunately in building the QEG he has run foul of QED and has apparently winked out of existence, so I do not think we will be hearing any thing further from him. I'm told that Hopeless Girl is devastated by the loss of her step father and more so by the loss of the knowledge he took with him. Oh well!

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2155 on: August 02, 2014, 06:00:55 AM »
My sources tell me that Jamie has in fact been successful and has managed to close the loop and create a self runner. Unfortunately in building the QEG he has run foul of QED and has apparently winked out of existence, so I do not think we will be hearing any thing further from him. I'm told that Hopeless Girl is devastated by the loss of her step father and more so by the loss of the knowledge he took with him. Oh well!

That was good for a chuckle!  Thanks...

You know, TT warned people not to play, if you could not pay, for the proper training.

This could be the best "out" yet, it's done, it worked, but everyone involved winked out to another dimension.

Sorry...

PW

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2156 on: August 02, 2014, 06:58:24 AM »
I think I've noticed an odd quirk with my circuit to do with the power factor, the tank and the supply.
I'll make a drawing and explain my thoughts.

I'm using a bench power supply that will take a reverse current. Power can be taken and returned but it's a DC supply.

Maybe someone can help with understanding the phase relationship and what is causing it.

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P.S. Here's the setup below. Question could power be transferred back to the supply from the tank during part of each cycle ?

The supply circuit closes the switch which energizes the coil then the switch closes and the coil discharges into the cap.
Then the cap discharges back through the spiral coil to the supply ? All the while transferring some energy to the tank.

Anyway the phase angle is either 33 or -147 or so in the tank with some load.

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TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2157 on: August 02, 2014, 09:15:19 AM »
Have you opened up your bench power supply to look at its output circuit? Mine includes electrolytic capacitors and reverse-biased Schottky diodes across the output terminals.

@Synchro: Notice that Farmhand is sowing a square or spiky pulse, and reaping a sine wave response in his resonant tank. And of course since his stimulating pulses have fast rise and fall times the _voltage_ in the coupled tank is greater than in a system like mine that is strictly sinusoidal (or half-sine) throughout. Also I think he is getting substantial transformer effect as well. The Farmhand coupled tank is halfway between my two PTO circuits: the loopstick based HV Receptor, and the motor driving low voltage high current TKTransverter.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2158 on: August 02, 2014, 09:37:00 AM »
@Farmhand: Is the negative of your Pulse Generator grounded? IE will the 330 uF capacitor be connected to the negative rail through the Pulse Generator?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #2159 on: August 02, 2014, 10:06:53 AM »
Yeah Tinsel, The 330 uF cap might be a 470 uF I think and it is grounded to circuit ground, the negative of the cap goes to circuit
ground and the positive goes to the positive rail. the pulse generator has another 100 uF cap which is fed through a diode for the
logic oscillator.

I have a loop made from 4 x 1 mm wires about 200 diameter it shows about 1.5 volts when near the setup, maybe I can use it for a feedback for a resonance seeking logic circuit of some kind, maybe AC.

Here's the setup lighting some LED's and the fluro in the hand deal for fun. The 10 LED's voltage required means the output is near
it's upper voltage level and not much power is drawn. The motor runs at 10 volts or so and draws the most power as a load so far.

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