Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl) (Read 2011135 times)

mscoffman · « **Reply #2610 on:** September 17, 2014, 08:53:37 PM »

Quote from: sparks on September 17, 2014, 07:06:37 PM

There is an explanation for quantum energy generators. We have alot of them converting atomic binding energy into kinetic energy. There is also a whole slew of low energy nuclear reactions coming in from the fringe. It could be that some of these people like Witt had a transmutation process going like taking some iron isotope and converting it into cobalt. Electron capture initiates neutron decay into a proton and beta radiation. The strong nuclear force keeps the proton at home forming a new element and the fast beta particle loses some of it's energy bumping another electron into the core of adjacent atoms. Not all the beta is absorbed in the collision and you get alot of fast electrons originally moving at relativistic velocities now moving at the snails pace electrons move through a conductor. This is all dictated by the weak nuclear force. It could explain how some of these backyard science people come up with anomalous "heating"effects like hot light bulbs.

Every sun mass star and below emits a neutrino for *each* hydrogen to hydrogen fusion, in the PEP-II pathway. Also exploding NOVA stars only explode because of incredibly copious production of neutrinos drives the explosion forward. So there are a lot of them around.
They carry away the precise angular momentum energy of constituents to the PEP reaction. Neutrinos are normally ghostlike particles that
move though matter with an extremely low probability of interaction. But in a Planck interaction if the reaction needs just the right
amount of energy available to the neutrino the probabilities go out the window and a neutrino supplies it's energy to the reaction.
Enough energy to bond the proton and electron which then merge into a neutron with => no additional energy left over <= a neutron
drifts away and gets absorbed into another local atomic nucleus, increasing it's neutron count by one, if this neutron makes the nucleus
radioactive, the nuclear process fission proceeds to generate heat. Notice that this reaction is not a chain reaction, but is rate limited
by the presence of additional neutrinos and the conditions of other matter. Which atomic nucleus absorbs the drift neutron can be to
some extent dependent on the material configuration around the reaction site.

Question to knowledgeable physicist: Is there systemic balance that is violated if a neutrino is absorbed by a configuration
of electron and proton to create the neutron? If not the reaction is not accidental as the energy of the PEP-II neutrino has
been calculated as exactly what is required to form the electron and proton into a neutron.

mscoffman · « **Reply #2611 on:** September 17, 2014, 09:27:31 PM »

Quote from: MarkE on September 17, 2014, 08:08:48 AM

Joe: WITTS have never delivered on the world changing technology that they claim, including their version of this entirely useless contraption. Neither Naima (Hope Girl) nor James, nor anyone else ever obtained one nanoJoule of excess energy from any of their devices. There is nothing in FTW's measurements that suggests surplus energy. Their claims to excess energy have no basis in theory or experiment. That's the truth. What has come from the Robitaille clan is one misrepresentation or outright lie after another. Those lies have induced well intentioned people to part with money thinking it will speed along arrival of a world changing machine. The funds have done nothing of the sort. They have financed the Robitaille's travel and entertainment. For the money invested so far in the Robitaille's false claims, 10,000 families that rely on kerosene could have been provided with solar powered LED lights. That would be 10,000 families that would no longer be spending 30% of their income on kerosene fuel for light. Actions have consequences.

I agree, there is no justification for not having tested this device completely before proceeding with their public release. The
initial form of the release document had significant anomalies that appear to be caused by lack of attention. One doesn't learn
AC power theory in public as one tries to test the device output for the first time. The device was inefficient to the extent there
was no recovery by repurposing it. Trusting Timothy Thrapp appears now to be ill-considered. There were better overunity
devices that deserved that development money. Finally there are the people that they were supposed to helped but were not.
Success has many fathers, while failure is an orphan.

:S:MarkSCoffman

MarkE · « **Reply #2612 on:** September 17, 2014, 10:21:19 PM »

Quote from: sparks on September 17, 2014, 07:06:37 PM

There is an explanation for quantum energy generators. We have alot of them converting atomic binding energy into kinetic energy. There is also a whole slew of low energy nuclear reactions coming in from the fringe. It could be that some of these people like Witt had a transmutation process going like taking some iron isotope and converting it into cobalt. Electron capture initiates neutron decay into a proton and beta radiation. The strong nuclear force keeps the proton at home forming a new element and the fast beta particle loses some of it's energy bumping another electron into the core of adjacent atoms. Not all the beta is absorbed in the collision and you get alot of fast electrons originally moving at relativistic velocities now moving at the snails pace electrons move through a conductor. This is all dictated by the weak nuclear force. It could explain how some of these backyard science people come up with anomalous "heating"effects like hot light bulbs.

The simple, direct, and correct explanation is that the claims WITTS and FTW make are lies. Come up with the surplus energy first. Then it makes sense to try and explain such a thing. Since neither Witts nor FTW have demonstrated surplus energy, there is nothing to explain beyond the shameless behavior of both.

john_doe · « **Reply #2613 on:** September 18, 2014, 02:24:28 AM »

It's such a shame that people on an "OverUnity" forum would appear so arrogant and ignorant. I came to this forum expecting most people to understand the reality of "overunity" or "free energy" as I do.

I'm so disappointed. I honestly expected those actually capable of helping, would.
Why so called "intelligent" members of this forum persist in reducing the content down to a monetary reward says more about them then they realise.

Over exposure to radiation results in burns capable of melting skin. Consider you or your children suffering as those have in Japan then, apply some intellect and realise the gravity of "Free Energy".

From what I've read, people on this forum would indeed loose control of their bowls if they actually were capable of building a device that could provide "free energy".
This QEG fiasco isn't anything more than insulting & degrading to those that need a better supply of energy.
I really liked the idea of the alternate magnetic principal proposed on another thread because it allowed people to visualise the solar system in a new light (be it correct or incorrect) and I hoped people would take something more away from it or at least be inspired to try something different.

Credit is due to the effort of those that have shined a light on the mistakes the "FTW" cheats have passed off though I really wish people would see things the way I do. We would have these devices installed in our vehicles already.

joel321 · « **Reply #2614 on:** September 18, 2014, 10:58:21 AM »

“Joe: WITTS have never delivered on the world changing technology that they claim, including their version of this entirely useless contraption. Neither Naima (Hope Girl) nor James, nor anyone else ever obtained one nanoJoule of excess energy from any of their devices. There is nothing in FTW's measurements that suggests surplus energy. Their claims to excess energy have no basis in theory or experiment. That's the truth. What has come from the Robitaille clan is one misrepresentation or outright lie after another. Those lies have induced well intentioned people to part with money thinking it will speed along arrival of a world changing machine. The funds have done nothing of the sort. They have financed the Robitaille's travel and entertainment. For the money invested so far in the Robitaille's false claims, 10,000 families that rely on kerosene could have been provided with solar powered LED lights. That would be 10,000 families that would no longer be spending 30% of their income on kerosene fuel for light. Actions have consequences.”

Dude i'm a newbie to this but I find it unbelievable that someone in here with 3386 posts (like you) not capable of seeing what is really going on.

After watching videos upon videos showing how “free energy” is gathered from the earth is amazing how you don't believe it is a fact 100%.

Like the hoover damn...all of that energy is “gathered” from the river flow ENERGY only. Then you have solar power gathering energy from the light. Then you have air power gathering energy from the air...HECK we breath “free energy” when we take a breath each day since the air is a way to gather energy...eating food is a way to gather energy too. Drinking water is yet another way to gather “free energy”...it is all over the place this “free collecting energy” that I find it hard to understand why you have a hard time to understand.

The intentions of hopegirl are just to unplug yourself from the system...that's all....lets say the QEG goes down in the history books...no problem...we have others...”bloom box” rivers to tap too...etc....i mean how hard is it to believe that on every river there can can be a generator? Is it illegal for me to create a small hoover damb for my house?

How hard is it to believe that there are engines that can run on water? Torches that can create a flame and melt metal when it is fueled by water? All of this technology is just being suppressed by greed....i mean just read about the history of money. It started by the exchange of goods...and now there is no exchange of goods....printed paper for infinity only. I think I read the difference between printing a $100 dollar bill VS a $1 dollar bill.. its like ten cents difference between the two.....they pay for the ink to print two zeros and different graphics.

There is so much evidence...if the QEG fails to make it in the masses...there are a lot of other “over unity” devices out there that have worked since 30 yrs ago (or more).

The problem is that most of the inventors want to get rich but soon get faded out.....their only hope is to make it free for all and then it can't never get faded out because the people are voters. I seriously find it incredibly hard to understand why you don't understand this simple stuff.

Hope girl just wants to help the non-technical people where the technical people are just cash cows only. Make it open source...they stop being afraid of being persecuted.

MileHigh · « **Reply #2615 on:** September 18, 2014, 01:54:01 PM »

Joe:

That posting was basically a repeat of your discussion about renewable energy. You have been told repeatedly that we are not discussing renewable energy in this thread. What is your problem? There is no connection whatsoever between renewable energy and the QEG.

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Dude i'm a newbie to this but I find it unbelievable that someone in here with 3386 posts (like you) not capable of seeing what is really going on.

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I seriously find it incredibly hard to understand why you don't understand this simple stuff.

The above comments are nonsensical Straw Man arguments where you are trying to allege that MarkE does not "see" or understand the issues around renewable energy, or issues about the QEG. That is not true at all. When you post nonsensical things like that you only hurt your credibility.

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The intentions of hopegirl are just to unplug yourself from the system...

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Hope girl just wants to help the non-technical people where the technical people are just cash cows only.

You have also been told that the QEG does not work, and there is no evidence that it does work. There is ample evidence that it does not work. Therefore your two statements above are nonsense.

Please understand, in this discussion you are free to make real points and make your arguments. But going off topic and talking about renewable energy or making Straw Man arguments about some people or making unsubstantiated allegations about the QEG will not impress anybody.

You have to be real and truthful and stay on topic. Are you capable of seeing what is really going on?

MileHigh

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #2616 on:** September 18, 2014, 05:33:06 PM »

Quote from: MilesHigher

Joe:

That posting was basically a repeat of your discussion about renewable energy. You have been told repeatedly that we are not discussing renewable energy in this thread. What is your problem? There is no connection whatsoever between renewable energy and the QEG.
...

Please understand, in this discussion you are free to make real points and make your arguments. But going off topic and talking about renewable energy or making Straw Man arguments about some people or making unsubstantiated allegations about the QEG will not impress anybody.

You have to be real and truthful and stay on topic. Are you capable of seeing what is really going on?

MileHigh

In the minds of some experimenters there is a
connection, a possible dependency, or an overlap.

Is the human mind capable of "staying on topic?"

Our ability to remain focused seems to be limited.
Even the Great Miles Higher has been known to have
been distracted or for other reasons drift off course
(topic) from time to time.

Broad lines of discussion are often necessary as we
strive to resolve conflicting thoughts or seek
understanding of what seems incomprehensible.

But then, this tends to drive the Thought Police up
the wall...

As the World Turns.

sparks · « **Reply #2617 on:** September 18, 2014, 06:12:40 PM »

Quote from: mscoffman on September 17, 2014, 08:53:37 PM

Every sun mass star and below emits a neutrino for *each* hydrogen to hydrogen fusion, in the PEP-II pathway. Also exploding NOVA stars only explode because of incredibly copious production of neutrinos drives the explosion forward. So there are a lot of them around.
They carry away the precise angular momentum energy of constituents to the PEP reaction. Neutrinos are normally ghostlike particles that
move though matter with an extremely low probability of interaction. But in a Planck interaction if the reaction needs just the right
amount of energy available to the neutrino the probabilities go out the window and a neutrino supplies it's energy to the reaction.
Enough energy to bond the proton and electron which then merge into a neutron with => no additional energy left over <= a neutron
drifts away and gets absorbed into another local atomic nucleus, increasing it's neutron count by one, if this neutron makes the nucleus
radioactive, the nuclear process fission proceeds to generate heat. Notice that this reaction is not a chain reaction, but is rate limited
by the presence of additional neutrinos and the conditions of other matter. Which atomic nucleus absorbs the drift neutron can be to
some extent dependent on the material configuration around the reaction site.

Question to knowledgeable physicist: Is there systemic balance that is violated if a neutrino is absorbed by a configuration
of electron and proton to create the neutron? If not the reaction is not accidental as the energy of the PEP-II neutrino has
been calculated as exactly what is required to form the electron and proton into a neutron.

Interesting energy from the aether. If a hydrogen atom turns into a neutron (due to electron capture in a neutrino rich enviroment) and the neutron decays back into a proton right next to another decaying neutron wouldn't the coulumb barrier problem be overcome? If there are enough gluons around you get cold fusion-if there aren't you get two protons moving pretty quickly away from each other along with the beta. The protons slam into stuff and heat it up. The beta displaces electrons allowing for the protons to stay ionized long enough for the coulumb force to kick in and mutually accelerate the protons.

MileHigh · « **Reply #2618 on:** September 19, 2014, 12:31:12 AM »

Sorry SeaMonkey, I am not buying. Recently you have been pushing "C," "ET," and "J" and making strategic little postings to try to change the subject and get some "action." Just start your own thread or threads instead. There is no connection between renewable energy and the QEG and I am pretty damn sure that you know that too.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #2619 on:** September 19, 2014, 03:06:55 AM »

Quote from: joel321 on September 18, 2014, 10:58:21 AM

Dude i'm a newbie to this but I find it unbelievable that someone in here with 3386 posts (like you) not capable of seeing what is really going on.

After watching videos upon videos showing how “free energy” is gathered from the earth is amazing how you don't believe it is a fact 100%.

Like the hoover damn...all of that energy is “gathered” from the river flow ENERGY only. ...there are a lot of other “over unity” devices out there that have worked since 30 yrs ago (or more).

So, you admit to being a newb to all of this yet you state that free energy from the earth is a fact, 100%? What do you base this conclusion upon? Videos? Replications?

Umm...all dams, like the Hoover dam you mentioned, work as a direct result of solar power...you know....sun heats water...it evaporates and it rains up in the mountains...gravity make it flow down hill...you know this right?

O.U. devices "working for 30 years"???? Where is your evidence for such a silly statement? Just show us one...just one...that is all we would like to see. You just claimed that there are "a lot" of them so this should be easy for you to do. You will not be able to do this because there are NONE. Not one single device that has been proven to be overunity...period. So just name one and show the proof and we will all be thrilled.

The QEG has been totally exposed by the smart guys on here as a scam and a fraud, and that it can not do anything like what they have claimed, so, I do hope you do not claim that one as your proven O.U. device.

I do not mean to sound like I am picking on you but, you admit to being new to all of this, and then you make definitive statements which we all know are false, and you call into question a highly intelligent, highly educated, and highly respected member's (MarkE) postings claiming that they are not correct. This is why I had to respond.

Bill

raburgeson · « **Reply #2620 on:** September 19, 2014, 03:50:31 AM »

In the past on main line news the U.S. government admitted they had overunity devices in space. They also admitted they have IDed 5 types of energy the rest of the world knows nothing about. Bet you can't find anything on the net about it now. Check with older news hounds on the net, they will remember. You might get lucky and even find a person that has archived these articles.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #2621 on:** September 19, 2014, 06:55:35 AM »

Quote from: MilesHigher

Sorry SeaMonkey, I am not buying. Recently you have been pushing "C," "ET," and "J" and making strategic little postings to try to change the subject and get some "action." Just start your own thread or threads instead. There is no connection between renewable energy and the QEG and I am pretty damn sure that you know that too.

Miles,

I'm baffled!

What, pray tell, are "C," "ET," and "J?"

What is fairly obvious is that the QEG as it is presently
designed and operated falls short. Some important
feature or control mechanism is being overlooked.
The alleged fully functional unit requires some sort of
complex electronic control unit which hasn't entered
into most of the discussion. What might it be?

In your mind there certainly cannot be any connection
between Renewable Energy and the QEG. At least not
yet. Give it more time and further study.

The overly simplified present design of the QEG may be
intentional. A distraction. Purposely flawed.

The doorway out of your imprisoning box has been cracked
open.

Change the subject?

Nay! Expand the possibilities!

Are you unaware that the solutions to most problems come
to mind while the mind is wandering? Or even dreaming?

Rigid confinement to narrow thinking is counterproductive...

Even Spock came to appreciate this.

joel321 · « **Reply #2622 on:** September 19, 2014, 07:45:42 AM »

“O.U. devices "working for 30 years"

? Where is your evidence for such a silly statement? Just show us one...just one...that is all we would like to see. You just claimed that there are "a lot" of them so this should be easy for you to do. You will not be able to do this because there are NONE. Not one single device that has been proven to be overunity...period. So just name one and show the proof and we will all be thrilled.”

It is all over the INTERNET and I don't have time to spoon feed you the information that is 100% common sense out there all over the inter from bits and bits and bits and bits gathered and put them together.

A very well known fact that you can go see for your self and take pictures and maybe buy one and reverse engineer is the “bloom box” which Google and other companies have them. If I had the money to buy one, I would and reverse engineer....but I don't have the money but it makes 100% sense how it works. Time and time again we see that humans get the energy from the atmosphere. The air you breath is ingesting it and processing it to get the FREE energy from the air. The body also requires WATER to live....you dring it because it has energy in it that the body needs and then you piss out the waste that it is ENERGY for another type of animal and the climate. ETC ETC ETC.

I might have used the word “overunity” but what I really meant is the simple fact of going to the grocery store to buy food. You spend gas and body movement energy to walk/drive there...you come home with food that will last you for months. The energy that you put to buy food you only needed a cheeseburger you probably ate at lunch time. I can go to the grocery store and buy 4 months worth of food in 2 hours with an empty stomach yet I yet this much food back in my refrigerators?

The same principal is all over the place. Another example look as the EARTH being a big battery? The earth as it sits is a big battery that will last for millions of years. Gathering energy from where it's is located and the atmosphere. How do you explain the earth having all of this FREE ENERGY that sustains life? The earth it is a self contained battery that we live in and will last for millions of years. Not that hard to understand.

Now if we look in the micro world and look at all the waves one by one....those waves have resonance for millions of years. Maybe in the future millions of years, the light waves will “mutate” to make a new type of wave. But for now, they are waves self contained waves vibrating at their own tune since light first was created. How is light being so perfectly balanced that light has not mutated? = self contained energy in my book.

There is so much evidence out there to nor believe that more power can be made with little power. Year after year things are made more efficient. Look at the car tesla model s car....90 something miles equivalent to the gasoline cars for gallon...etc etc etc....

This QEG is just a grain of sand compared to all of the other QEG's. As a newbie to this QEG movement, I am not a newbie to understand the facts of how this world works!

joel321 · « **Reply #2623 on:** September 19, 2014, 07:58:24 AM »

Pirate88179, since you are an expert in these things. How much energy is put in to the hoover damn with water and how much energy comes out at the generators? Then can you tell me the percentage different what goes in and comes out?

TinselKoala · « **Reply #2624 on:** September 19, 2014, 08:06:18 AM »

You just have to laugh at these poor people. Look at what they have come up with now:

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/580-solid-state-qeg#2653

It took them longer than I expected, though.

Remember this, Be-Do QEGgers?
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLml9VdOeqKa-k7J7vO_I22fVc-h8wcdLf

The fools at PESN have lied about me and my microQEG, time and time again, claiming that I somehow faked the results or the effects shown in the videos. This whole affair is a great comedy for those of us who haven't spent thousands of dollars on their QEG cores, and a great tragedy for those who have.

But at least Shean at Be-Do Forum has wised up a little bit and has removed the "15 thousand dollar kit" advertisement.

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