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1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« on: May 21, 2014, 07:38:08 AM »

http://youtu.be/rxIRaJlTD4Y

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"Miami, Florida, United States of America.
Various shots of inventor William Skinner in his workshop as he demonstrates a model of his gravity power machine. It has weights that spin round and multiply the power of an 1/8 horsepower motor by 1200 % - enough energy to power a town of 3,500 at a cost of £1 a month. William uses the power of the model to work a 12 foot lathe that cuts ribbons of steel."
« Last Edit: May 21, 2014, 03:37:18 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 03:39:02 PM »
Amazing !
What came out of this invention ?

Why was it not looked further into ?

Seems he is using centrifugal forces in a tricky way to get the energy gain !

Where can we find more infos about this machine ?
Many thanks for uploading this.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 03:43:57 PM »
I still found this:

Titles read: "GRAVITY POWER!"

Miami, Florida, United States of America.

Various shots of inventor William Skinner in his workshop as he demonstrates a model of his gravity power machine.

It has weights that spin round and multiply the power of an 1/8 horsepower motor by 1200 % -
enough energy to power a town of 3,500 at a cost of £1 a month. 

William uses the power of the model to work a 12 foot lathe that cuts ribbons of steel.

Hmm, did he file a patent for this machine ?

Probably he is already deceased...

Who knows more about this machine ?

REgards, Stefan.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 03:58:16 PM »
Here is a PDF File I just found, hard to read, as the scan is not good,
but it already gives more info, that the motor only needs to
drive the shaft and the weights are always falling, without really falling...




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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 04:12:54 PM »
I've tried to find more infos about the inventor and his device, with no luck.
But the principle seems to be feasible.
Here's another video with another device using the same principle:


http://youtu.be/LCWupGlQjfQ


Could this be a path to step into?


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 05:05:10 PM »
Here is also a different PDF File, unfortunately one needs to pay to get access:

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/53831037/


I extracted this part from the OCR section there:


 FBIDAY, MAECH31; 1939 THE DAILY NOTES, CANON8BUBO. PA.

GRAVITY FORCE USED TO RAISE MOTOR POWER  Miami Inventor Calls Principle

Enormous Energy Saver
 MIAMI, Fla., March 31. 0i W. F. Skinner proudly displays hi; latest invention,

a device that multiplies power in a startling fashion. Skinner had great -hopes

for the principle he embodied in his deivice, which he calls "a gravity power

machine.
" He said, for example, I " v , fit ' Jb? V1I1' j l" , f IjijBSBSCL - , ,-u, ,

1 1 r T MmBmm he believed the machine's principle could be carried to a point

where a one-horsepower motor would produce electricity for a community of 3,500

people at a total cost of only $5 a month. "Almost any engineer will tell you

that what this machine does is impossible," said Skinner, and then proceeded to

demonstrate in his   workshop here. His working model of the "gravity power

machine" was run by a one-eighth horsepower motor. The device, in turn,

operated a heavy duty, 12-foot lathe, a six-foot drill press and a hack saw

from the from several children's toys and special types of furniture he has

invented. Skinner said some skeptics were inclined to wonder whether his

"gravity power machine" was obtaining power from some other source than the

one-eighth horsepower motor because the shop was electrically operated. To make

the demonstration more convincing, he obtained a one-fifth horsepower gasoline

motor manufactured to run model airplanes, which he said he would install to

produce the power for the shop. same shaft at the same time.  "Almost any

engineer will tell you that to run even that heavy duty lathe and produce the

quar inch shaving on a steel "bar that it does would take a two-horsepower

motor," Skinner said. $2-95 4.40 The "gravity power machine" stricKen about two

weeks ago KECKEATI0X CENTER HAS VARIED ACTIVITIES consists of a steel framework

con taining four shafts controlled by  on the eccentrics- On each shaft is an

off-balanced weight which Skinner said was "about the secret of the whole

thing." He explained that the shafts, turning in the eccentrics, moved the

weights in a circular motion at 60 revolutions a minute. Because the weights

are off-balance, he vaid, they are always "falling," producing the

multiplication of power. The "falling," Skinner said, is more correctly a

following of the weights to new centers of gravity caused by the changing

positions of the shafts. The weights do not actually fall. The one-eighth

horsepower electric motor. Skinner said, was used only for power to turn the

eccentrics and the "gravity power machine 'provided the power, in turn, to

operate the hop. U'OO Per Cent Step I'p Skinner estimated the "gravity power

machine" would increase the horsepower of a motor about 1,200 per cent. A one

horsepower motor, he believed, with a perfected "gravity power machine" to

multiply its output, could be made to drive a generator large enough to produce

electricity for 3,500 persons. And the operating cost would be only about $5 a

month, he estimated. The machine Skinner exhibited was the fifth he has built

in the 14 years he has been "working up the idea." A number of engineers have

inspected his invention, he said. One of them was A. P. Michaels, a

Jacksonville, Fla., consulting engineer, who gave Skinner a letter describing

the machine as "a practical device and will have a definite .  field where it

is necessary to use power to drive equipment. It should result in a very large

saving of power used." One Engineer Silent George C- Estill, electrical

engineer and retired president of the Florida Power and Light company here, was

another who examined the device but he said his check was not complete enough

to allow him to form a conclusion. Skinner turned to inventing after the

collapse of the Florida real estate boom of 1926. He recently perfected a

device for recharging dry cell batteries.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 05:19:30 PM »
Here is another Newspaper article about it,
but also not much more info in it:

http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth73611/m1/2/zoom/?zoom=5&lat=2690&lon=3903&layers=BT



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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 06:03:35 PM »
I've tried to find more infos about the inventor and his device, with no luck.
But the principle seems to be feasible.
Here's another video with another device using the same principle:


http://youtu.be/LCWupGlQjfQ


Could this be a path to step into?
This is a red herring. The man injects energy into the system by rocking the equipment.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 06:05:35 PM »
http://youtu.be/rxIRaJlTD4Y

From description:
"Miami, Florida, United States of America.
Various shots of inventor William Skinner in his workshop as he demonstrates a model of his gravity power machine. It has weights that spin round and multiply the power of an 1/8 horsepower motor by 1200 % - enough energy to power a town of 3,500 at a cost of £1 a month. William uses the power of the model to work a 12 foot lathe that cuts ribbons of steel."

Thanks and nice find. It is very interesting. Also thanks Stefan for the new paper finds.  There are several inventors in newspapers from many years with claims that are also interesting. I had not found this one yet.

Alan




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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 06:19:53 PM »
Maybe someone from you who live near Miami, Florida can try to locate the descendants of this
inventor and ask them, if the machine still exists ?

Would be really great, if this machine would be still available to inspect and make measurements.

I guess this is a valid principle.

Can anyone draw up a sketch, how he things this is working ?

The machine is pretty high as you can see in the first few frames of the British Pathe video.
It seems the right drive motor is driving the left wheel which goes up via the ribbon band
to the topp of the machine and drives there some kind excenter and at the bottom these weights
then just rotate around this excenter and this lower axle then drives his equipment...


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 06:39:09 PM »
Hi Cipbranea,

Welcome to the forum.

Thank you for sharing, haven't seen this one yet, really cool.

I like how he has the top and bottom separated makes it easier to take power off but requires more mechanics. This design could be optimized greatly. The  higher top with eccentric arms allows for more leverage to the bottom drive weights, but you could remove those by using a ring so the motor doesn't have to see the angular weight. Is the bottom takeoff a planetary gear?

I built a precessed cylinder test a while back, just by making small gyrations of the central axis you can get a weight to displace towards the offset of the axis. Remove the cylinder and attach a arm with a heavy mass to generate torque.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X1dFuxUQ0I

Hi Hartiberlin,

Thank you for those articles.

Here is text version of last article:

Quote
Breckenridge American (Breckenridge, Tex.), Vol. 19, No. 198, Ed. 1, Tuesday, April 4, 1939

New Machine Uses Gravity for Power
Principle will greatly increase horsepower speed

Miami, Fla (U.P.) -- W. F. Skinner proudly displays his latest invention, a device that multiplies power in a startling fashion.

Skinner had great hopes for the principle he embodied in his device, which he calls "a gravity power machine." He said, for example, he believed the machine's principle could be carried to a point where a one-horsepower motor would provide electricity for a community of 3,500 people at a total cost of only $5 a month.

"Almost any engineer will tell you that what this machine does is impossible," said Skinner, and the proceeded to demonstrate in his workshop here.

His working model of the "gravity power machine" was run by a one-eighth horsepower motor. The device, in turn, operated a heavy duty, 12-foot lathe, a six foot drill press and a hack saw from the same shaft at the same time.

"Almost any engineer will tell you that to run even that heavy duty lathe and produce the quarter-inch shaving on a steel bar that it does would take a two-horsepower motor," Skinner said.

The "gravity power machine" consists of a steel framework containing four shafts controlled by eccentrics. On each shaft is an off-balance weight which Skinner said was "about the secret of the whole thing."

He explained that the shafts turning in the eccentrics, moved the weights in a circular motion at 60 revolutions a minute. Because the weights are off balance, he said, they are always "falling" producing the multiplication of power.

The "falling," Skinner said, is more correctly a following of the weights to new centers of gravity caused by the changing positions of the shafts. The weights do not actually fall. The one-eighth horsepower electric motor, Skinner said, was used only for power to turn the eccentrics and the "gravity power machine" provided the power, in turn to operate the shop.

1,200 Per Cent Step Up

Skinner estimated the "gravity power machine" would increase the horsepower of a motor about 1,200 per cent. A one horsepower motor, he believed, with a perfected "gravity power machine" to multiply its output, could be made to drive a generator large enough to produce electricity for 3,500 persons. And the operating cost would be only about $5 a month, he estimated.

The machine Skinner exhibited was the fifth he has built in the 14 years he has been "working up the idea."

A number of engineers have inspected his invention, he said.

One of them was A. P. Michaels, a Jacksonville, Fla., consulting engineer, who gave Skinner a letter describing the machine as "a practical device and will have a definite field where it is necessary to use power to drive equipment. It should result in a very large saving of power used."

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 06:39:45 PM »
This is a red herring. The man injects energy into the system by rocking the equipment.
Maybe if you put some weight on the bottom (could be the weight of the electrical generator itself) you turn it into a pendulum, then less energy is required to maintain the pendulum swing. Just a thought...


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 07:14:28 PM »
Thank you, Stefan, for your research, DreamThinkBuild for your welcome, and you are right, the upper part of the device is providing high leverage to the second stage. On the second stage also, the shorter (upper) weight it seems to be "the first" which is starting to rotate, dragging after it the second one, heavier (0.30' on the movie).


Sorry for my English, it's not my native language. I just hope someone can understand what I'm trying to say  :)


Cheers all

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 07:27:02 PM »
Can somebody please locate the address of this William F. Skinner from Miami. Floria
in an old telephone book or address book ?

Maybe his children or descendants still live there and know what happened to this machine ?


I think Dan from Green Energy Power science is also living down there in Floria, maybe
he can have a look at it, if the machine still exists ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2014, 07:43:39 PM »


I built a precessed cylinder test a while back, just by making small gyrations of the central axis you can get a weight to displace towards the offset of the axis. Remove the cylinder and attach a arm with a heavy mass to generate torque.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X1dFuxUQ0I




Well done, yes, that could be the principle of the Skinner gravity power machine !
Can you use a gum ribbon on the black wheel to drive another small generator ?

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