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Hoppy

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #180 on: March 05, 2015, 09:51:03 AM »
Hi Hoppy. Yes, leaving the device running for a long duration in a test lab might be advisable,
but you could also just check for super caps or similar if you do a full disassembly and inspect/test/measure
each individual part. I think any reasonably cautious person would request to be able to do such thorough testing
before agreeing to any money exchange. If they don't agree to such a test, then an investor can simply move on.
Again, not a major problem. :)
All the best...

It would certainly be prudent to do so! The investor would need to decide if the device runs long enough for it to warrant a self-running label. In the case of Lasersabers device, it runs for a very long time and may well tempt an investor to deem it self-running, even if the device did contain a super-cap. The label in this case would then be misleading and dishonest in the generally accepted definition of the term 'self-running'. The point I'm trying to make here is that the investor decides if he can, if you will - 'get away with it' - legally. In the case of the electroscope I mentioned earlier, this was a classic case of getting away with it legally because it has never been scientifically proven that a bent coat hanger or hazel wand etc., can or cannot detect buried artefacts or hoards of coins in the hands of an operator skilled in the art of dowsing. The downfall in this case was the fact that the concealed circuitry did not match up to description. In the same way a very long running Lasersaber type device cannot be easily proven not to have a component of 'free energy' assisting its operation. It rests with the investor to make a judgement as to whether a device can be sold without legal comeback.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #181 on: March 05, 2015, 10:18:58 AM »
It would certainly be prudent to do so! The investor would need to decide if the device runs long enough for it to warrant a self-running label. In the case of Lasersabers device, it runs for a very long time and may well tempt an investor to deem it self-running, even if the device did contain a super-cap. The label in this case would then be misleading and dishonest in the generally accepted definition of the term 'self-running'. The point I'm trying to make here is that the investor decides if he can, if you will - 'get away with it' - legally. In the case of the electroscope I mentioned earlier, this was a classic case of getting away with it legally because it has never been scientifically proven that a bent coat hanger or hazel wand etc., can or cannot detect buried artefacts or hoards of coins in the hands of an operator skilled in the art of dowsing. The downfall in this case was the fact that the concealed circuitry did not match up to description. In the same way a very long running Lasersaber type device cannot be easily proven not to have a component of 'free energy' assisting its operation. It rests with the investor to make a judgement as to whether a device can be sold without legal comeback.
Claims that the device is powered by the earth's magnetic field are blatantly false.  Competent examination will expose the specific details of Akula's ruse.  Such examination will be forcefully resisted as it would immediately kill any investment in what is just another battery powered LED light.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #182 on: March 05, 2015, 12:13:58 PM »
The fact that all Akula can claim is a measly half to one watt when he reckons to have hundreds of watts  in his videos is proof enough that he is not worth following and is a waste of time.


I have maintained for some time that Kapanadze's devices are eye candy and the real secret is buried deep inside his device, probably a transformer anomaly.
For some reason he always liked to offer me three phase. He likes three phase transformers.
Look there.



Hoppy

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #183 on: March 05, 2015, 12:37:20 PM »
The fact that all Akula can claim is a measly half to one watt when he reckons to have hundreds of watts  in his videos is proof enough that he is not worth following and is a waste of time.


Agreed. Most experienced constructors could cobble together a very low powered device as unconvincingly demonstrated as that we see in the video.

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« Reply #184 on: March 05, 2015, 02:50:43 PM »
The fact that all Akula can claim is a measly half to one watt when he reckons to have hundreds of watts  in his videos is proof enough that he is not worth following and is a waste of time.

I have maintained for some time that Kapanadze's devices are eye candy and the real secret is buried deep inside his device, probably a transformer anomaly.
For some reason he always liked to offer me three phase. He likes three phase transformers.
Look there.

Hi a.king21. I can't say what either Kapadnadze or Akula are really doing, but if Akula's devices really do work, I think
possibly Akula's higher power devices may be proving unstable in one or more ways. He seems to have gone with
the lower power device, at least for now, which he says he can make quite stable now, and which he says can scale up
to about 50 Watts. Stability is a very important factor if you are planning to market a device like this. The higher power devices
Akula has previously demonstrated, if they really work,  just may not be there yet as far as stability, or may not work the same
in different locations as has been suggested by some. At any rate, even if a person only has a self runner that can only initially
produce say 1/2 watt reliably, it is still something that will be of great interest, as the potential is immense. Who knows where 
such things could lead with in depth R&D.

I suspect that if Akula's current device really does work, that it may be due to some process occurring in the ferrite itself. The
description to the latest video suggests that this is an important factor as well. In some previous videos by Akula he has also indicated
that this is an effect that he was investigating, and what he thinks was making some of his similar devices work. This is something that I am
continuing to experiment with, but there are various different ferrite compositions and who knows if Akula is not coating his ferrites with some
substance as well. My suggestion that it might be a good idea to test Akula's devices of this type with a Geiger counter is based on this idea as well. :)

I'd be interested to hear from Stefan on this. Stefan, have you viewed any of Akula's devices in person, and if so, what was your impression?
Do you have any further info to add to this discussion?

All the best...

MarkE

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #185 on: March 05, 2015, 04:58:29 PM »
The fact that all Akula can claim is a measly half to one watt when he reckons to have hundreds of watts  in his videos is proof enough that he is not worth following and is a waste of time.


I have maintained for some time that Kapanadze's devices are eye candy and the real secret is buried deep inside his device, probably a transformer anomaly.
For some reason he always liked to offer me three phase. He likes three phase transformers.
Look there.
Based on the dim appearance of his LEDs, Akula's latest demonstration is probably in the low 10's of mW power to the LEDs at best.

TinselKoala

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« Reply #186 on: March 05, 2015, 08:39:08 PM »
Look, many people have seen David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear, live and in person. That doesn't mean he is actually doing it!  It simply means that he is very good at doing what he actually _does_ do to make you think the statue has disappeared. The testimony of "eyewitnesses" who cannot conduct a thorough and complete examination of what is being presented is essentially worthless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=823GNH4Rczg

It is also not true that dowsing has not been scientifically disproven. 
Here is a report on one of the largest and best studies, out of many, that have disproven the effectiveness of dowsing:
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/testing_dowsing_the_failure_of_the_munich_experiments/

Hoppy

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« Reply #187 on: March 05, 2015, 09:16:32 PM »

It is also not true that dowsing has not been scientifically disproven. 
Here is a report on one of the largest and best studies, out of many, that have disproven the effectiveness of dowsing:
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/testing_dowsing_the_failure_of_the_munich_experiments/

https://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php/Can_Scientific_Testing_Prove_Dowsing_Works

MarkE

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« Reply #188 on: March 05, 2015, 09:30:23 PM »
https://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php/Can_Scientific_Testing_Prove_Dowsing_Works
From the top of that link:

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We think that the reason demons are impersonating good angels today is not only for purposes of spiritual deception, theologically and philosophically, but also so that they can easily oppress and possess people through the guise of “higher consciousness”

LOL, yes "thinking" is the devil's work.  We should have known.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #189 on: March 05, 2015, 09:31:18 PM »
Look, many people have seen David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear, live and in person. That doesn't mean he is actually doing it!  It simply means that he is very good at doing what he actually _does_ do to make you think the statue has disappeared. The testimony of "eyewitnesses" who cannot conduct a thorough and complete examination of what is being presented is essentially worthless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=823GNH4Rczg

It is also not true that dowsing has not been scientifically disproven. 
Here is a report on one of the largest and best studies, out of many, that have disproven the effectiveness of dowsing:
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/testing_dowsing_the_failure_of_the_munich_experiments/

This is, of course, anecdotal but a good friend of mine needed to dig up his water pipes to fix a leak that happened after the water meter and before his house connection.  The water company does not care about those leaks as they get paid for it...

He did have to call the local water company to come out to mark the water lines and...a guy shows up and my friend, who is into electronic gizmos, was very curious as to what type of metal detector gadget he might use.  Well, this old guy arrives in the water company truck and, low and behold, he has two 90 degree bent pieces of metal and begins dowsing for the water lines for my friend to dig up.  It took him less than 10 minutes and he used spray paint to mark where my friend was to dig.

Of course my buddy was baffled and asked the guy how this worked and the guy said that yes, he had all sorts of high tech stuff in the truck to do this with but, he said he has been doing this for 20 years and never needed the equipment and has never been wrong even once.

My friend was skeptical as he was going to dig by hand but...low and behold, the water lines were exactly where the old guy had marked them.
He considered that maybe the guy studied the water line maps before getting to his house, but, in this area, what is on the maps is almost never where the lines actually run.  I found this out the hard way when I owned my last home.  My water lines were over 200 Ft. from the easement on my deed from the water company.

So, this is of course not conclusive of anything but, my friend is no idiot (retired Military Intelligence and retired from IBM as a tech.)  We just spoke about this event a few days ago and he still does not understand it.  He called the water company and they told him that yes, this guy is supposed to use the right equipment to locate the water lines but, they said he has never missed yet so they sort of let it go.

Take this for what it is.

Bill

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« Reply #190 on: March 05, 2015, 09:36:24 PM »
Any chance we can keep this thread about Akula's self running lantern circuits?
Although interesting, dowsing is not really related to the topic at hand. :D

I was hoping that Stefan may have some comments on Akula's devices, since Stefan seems
to be in contact with Akula's business partners in Germany.

All the best...


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« Reply #191 on: March 05, 2015, 10:30:07 PM »
Any chance we can keep this thread about Akula's self running lantern circuits?
Although interesting, dowsing is not really related to the topic at hand. :D

I was hoping that Stefan may have some comments on Akula's devices, since Stefan seems
to be in contact with Akula's business partners in Germany.

All the best...

Hey, I'm sorry.  I just thought the story fit with where the topic had progressed to.

Let's see if Stefan has any info on this as you suggested.

Bill

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« Reply #192 on: March 05, 2015, 10:35:05 PM »
Hey, I'm sorry.  I just thought the story fit with where the topic had progressed to.
Let's see if Stefan has any info on this as you suggested.

No worries mate. Your story was interesting. I have heard similar stories as well in regards to some 
traditional well diggers. Just wondering if Stefan has any comments, but maybe he is not reading
this thread.
All the best...

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« Reply #193 on: March 06, 2015, 02:19:45 AM »
https://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php/Can_Scientific_Testing_Prove_Dowsing_Works

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But the critics who argue that nothing supernatural is ever involved in dowsing are wrong. Scientific or rationalistic explanations for dowsing phenomena simply do not do justice to the facts, nor are the arguments against dowsing in books such as Korem and Meier’s The Fakers entirely convincing. When supernatural phenomena are present, spiritistic activity is the most logical explanation for the results of dowsing. And when dowsing is practiced, such an influence may be present whether dowsing attempts are successful or not.

In other words, there are supernatural forces operating in the world and science is irrelevant, since the measurements and results of scientific testing cannot account for these supernatural forces and effects. You might as well give up then, because you can blame _everything that happens_ or seems to happen on "supernatural" causes. Maybe it is a supernatural cause that prevents almost all "free energy" devices from working, and only Akula has the right "spiritual" mindset to let those supernatural forces through, and his devices are powered by them.

There is no point in trying to reason with people who actually believe things like that... because "supernatural" forces always trump reason, rationality and science, and you can blame or attribute anything and everything to your "supernatural" causes. It's funny, though, how these supernatural forces and causes are so weak that they cannot overcome a proper scientific protocol and show their effects when tested by such protocols-- as the article readily admits.

Insert facepalm image here.

MarkE

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« Reply #194 on: March 06, 2015, 02:33:36 AM »
In other words, there are supernatural forces operating in the world and science is irrelevant, since the measurements and results of scientific testing cannot account for these supernatural forces and effects. You might as well give up then, because you can blame _everything that happens_ or seems to happen on "supernatural" causes. Maybe it is a supernatural cause that prevents almost all "free energy" devices from working, and only Akula has the right "spiritual" mindset to let those supernatural forces through, and his devices are powered by them.

There is no point in trying to reason with people who actually believe things like that... because "supernatural" forces always trump reason, rationality and science, and you can blame or attribute anything and everything to your "supernatural" causes. It's funny, though, how these supernatural forces and causes are so weak that they cannot overcome a proper scientific protocol and show their effects when tested by such protocols-- as the article readily admits.

Insert facepalm image here.
Is it the demons or angels that are responsible for the false positives and negatives?