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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #765 on: July 28, 2014, 06:15:19 AM »
possess the same properties


same quality, not the same quantity.

Using any FERROCELL shows this to be the case,  however weak on the FERRITE

You want a FERROCELL video of this fact??????



Dielectric capacitance increase (in creating a magnet from cap banks)  can be achieved (however much much weaker,very loosely, and not-permanently) by magnetic induction.


I can alter AB  by  A, ........or alter AB by  B


nobody wants a B-mod magnet. 

picowatt

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« Reply #766 on: July 28, 2014, 06:24:56 AM »

same quality, not the same quantity.

Using any FERROCELL shows this to be the case,  however weak on the FERRITE

You want a FERROCELL video of this fact??????



Dielectric capacitance increase (in creating a magnet from cap banks)  can be achieved (however much much weaker,very loosely, and not-permanently) by magnetic induction.


I can alter AB  by  A, ........or alter AB by  B


nobody wants a B-mod magnet.

Is that a "yes"?

PW

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #767 on: July 28, 2014, 06:28:32 AM »
Is that a "yes"?

PW

how could you read it otherwise?    obviously.

There is "more than one way to skin a cat"    obviously.


alter maneto-dielectic coherency via CHARGE, or by magnetic induction (which is resultantly WEAK)


magnetic induction ADDS NOTHING, all you have done is rearranged the existing (and then only part of it) inter-atomic magneto-dielectric.   And then only weakly and not permanently.

d3x0r

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« Reply #768 on: July 28, 2014, 06:50:16 AM »
I already said (after looking at the term) that it's a poor term.... it's generally applied as the region between the north and south where the forces are in balance.  if you have 2 magnets... I further described it as it appears on magnetic viewing film as a horizontal field/perpendicular field  As an equilibrium point another magnet can be balanced there so there is equal attraction from the north pole and from the south pole...
Another way to put a magnet at equilibrium is to put a cylinder in the center of a ring with the same poles up... sitting on a flat surface this will be a stable balance. 


Increasing the strength of one side of the other of a magnet will move this equilibrium point (line made up of equal points)

If you take some non magnetized iron and add it to the end of a magnet, the middle isn't the line... it will be biased toward the stronger pole.  And Should probably note that flux lines come out the sides of the magnet, as indicated by the magnetic viewing film having dark areas...
If you have a significantly larger magnet than another mating magnet, it will want to hang on the sides at an angle.... until it's at the equilibrium point (middle is a bad term, because the poles can be of different strength, which will bias the equilibrium away from the middle)
And line is also technicall bad, because it's a gradiant, and not a distinct line-like region.  But it is in general a line.

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #769 on: July 28, 2014, 06:54:33 AM »
If you take some non magnetized iron and add it to the end of a magnet, the middle isn't the line... it will be biased toward the stronger pole.  And Should probably note that flux lines come out the sides of the magnet, as indicated by the magnetic viewing film having dark areas...
If you have a significantly larger magnet than another mating magnet, it will want to hang on the sides at an angle.... until it's at the equilibrium point (middle is a bad term, because the poles can be of different strength, which will bias the equilibrium away from the middle)
And line is also technicall bad, because it's a gradiant, and not a distinct line-like region.  But it is in general a line.


hell must have frozen over,  someone finally saying something sensible, logical, and accurate.   ;D


(not meaning that nobody else has). 

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #770 on: July 28, 2014, 09:18:17 AM »
how could you read it otherwise?    obviously.

There is "more than one way to skin a cat"    obviously.


alter maneto-dielectic coherency via CHARGE, or by magnetic induction (which is resultantly WEAK)


magnetic induction ADDS NOTHING, all you have done is rearranged the existing (and then only part of it) inter-atomic magneto-dielectric.   And then only weakly and not permanently.

TA,

The reason I asked is because it is possible to magnetize steel (etc.) without the use of electricity or another magnet.  It seems that you have/are stating that the use of electricity or induction is the basis for, or necessary for, the creation of a magnet.  I am trying to understand your position regarding this. 

PW

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #771 on: July 28, 2014, 10:58:47 AM »
It seems that you have/are stating that the use of electricity or induction is the basis for, or necessary for, the creation of a magnet

If you got that impression, it was wrong.

Any ferrous object is ALREADY dielectrically capacitant,  however incoherent.      Rubbing coherency into a ferrous mass from another magnet has not added anything, only caused partial inductive coherency resultant to the magneto-dielectric inter-atomic alignment going on from rubbing an iron bar or needle with another "magnet" .

Strong field charge from the "genuine" magnet overpowers and induces magneto-dielectric coherency in the iron/needle

And, ...what makes you think stroking an iron bar with a magnet isnt actually also low level induction?

simplex fluid dynamics explains most of this except on a wholly diff. medium.


Its no diff. than inducing vertical lift in an airfoil from high pressure air moving along the air foil.........in this case magnetic current running across the iron bar.


All inter-atomic in the iron bar equalizes to to the magnet inducing the coherent field gradients, some of that equalization remains afterwords...... 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3yCjjbG-0

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #772 on: July 28, 2014, 01:36:40 PM »


And, ...what makes you think stroking an iron bar with a magnet isnt actually also low level induction? [/b]
simplex fluid dynamics explains most of this except on a wholly diff. medium.


I have no idea why you are asking this.

I was asking about when a piece of steel is magnetized without using electricity or another magnet.

PW


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #773 on: July 28, 2014, 02:06:03 PM »



    What you thinking of picowatt? If you heat above CP. And hammer in Earth's
magnetism you're still using another magnet!
                       John.

tinman

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #774 on: July 28, 2014, 03:02:09 PM »
Tinman,

Take a look at this wiki, about half way down the page to "Direction of Force"

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field

If you apply the rule as given, you will indeed see that it predicts opposite spins on the OD versus ID.  However, it appears to me that both directions are reversed from what the rule would indicate.

You had the south pole up in those tests, correct? (and your compass still point north correctly?  We have seen compasses ruined from being around magnets.  Just asking...) 

If you would, please confirm that the fluid motion is in the same direction as the bubbles using the "flag" idea mentioned.

PW

ADDED:  You need not bother to video the flag test.  If you say the fluid is indeed moving in concert with the bubbles, that's good enough for me.  But, make sure to check the flow right at the edge of the magnet where H2 is being generated.
Quote PW: However, it appears to me that both directions are reversed from what the rule would indicate.
Finally some one see's it-things are back to front to what they should be. I have hinted at this 3 times in this thread and once in the !Thread for naysayers,and shills! Qoute post 187-Most are saying,its just the right hand rule thing(as per homopolar motor),but i dont think any one yet has actually taken notice of the electrical and magnetic polarity of my setup-that i clearly gave in the last video lol.

Quote PW: You had the south pole up in those tests, correct? (and your compass still point north correctly?  We have seen compasses ruined from being around magnets.  Just asking...) 

If you would, please confirm that the fluid motion is in the same direction as the bubbles using the "flag" idea mentioned.

Yes,have tried 3 different compasses-one a very expencive marine compass from my boat-all three are correct,as the marine one still points north. I used a piece of sewing thread to try and see the direction of water flow,but the bubbles just made it float away from the magnet. I then lifted the magnet close to the top of the water level,and dropped in a few drops of red food dye,and it flowed the same direction as the bubbles. I could also see some small bits of rubbish flowing in the same direction as the bubble as the water became contaminated.

Now there was something else in the video before the last,when i had the stream of bubbles coming from the S/S thread bar,and the bought a magnets pole end close to the stream of bubble's.->Did you notice anything there a bit odd as well?. Both the north and south poles of the magnet attracted the stream of H2 bubbles. One would of thought that one of the magnetic polarities would have pushed the bubbles away-but both attract?.

Next weekend,i am going to set up my HHO cell,and run the test again using only gas-no electric current-just to see what happens.


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #775 on: July 28, 2014, 03:13:52 PM »
http://www.physics247.com/physics-tutorial/magnetic-field-left-hand.shtml


Electron deflection in a magnetic field follows left hand rule.  if the field line to north it the direction of the thumb, deflection will be the curl of left hand fingers.

d3x0r

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« Reply #776 on: July 28, 2014, 03:19:36 PM »
It is interesting that the magnetic field seems to be conducted through the bolt even though its domains don't align.  But I guess it's just a far field from the magnet that's mostly vertical there...




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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #777 on: July 28, 2014, 06:39:52 PM »
How do you mean "near field" and "far field"?  How do you personally distinguish between the two?  In electromagnetics, the near field is where evanescent waves exist, and the far field is where plane waves exist almost exclusively. 

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #778 on: July 28, 2014, 07:33:08 PM »


    What you thinking of picowatt? If you heat above CP. And hammer in Earth's
magnetism you're still using another magnet!
                       John.


apparently it was recently discovered that TRUE MASTER SWORDS made in early japan were hammered in making them at N to S,  so if a warrior was LOST in the woods, he could place his sword on a grass matt etc in the water and his sword would point to North



another "mystic of the magic of master level very old warrior swords"

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #779 on: July 28, 2014, 07:37:02 PM »
http://www.physics247.com/physics-tutorial/magnetic-field-left-hand.shtml


Electron deflection in a magnetic field follows left hand rule.  if the field line to north it the direction of the thumb, deflection will be the curl of left hand fingers.


FIELDS have NOTHING to do with particles,  not one stinking bit.


Nor do pixie dust  "discharge particles" .....i.e. electrons,.........dont exist.


Steinmetz denied such nonsense, so did Tesla, so did Heaviside, so did JJ  Thomson himself!!!!!!