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Raz

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3960 on: April 01, 2015, 03:33:57 AM »
Sadang:'electrostatics'

Is the key to the... 'ether' indeed.

Are you talking about electrostatic like in Oleg Jefimenko electrostatic motors or an electrostatic generator??. For what I read ,Tesla used both AC and DC in his magnifier transmitter. Now if we are talking about taking a electrostatic charge or pressure and moving it in a way that interacts with the ether and brings the dielectric charge into play then I may understand you better.

Eric Dollard interview:

 T: What exactly is the dielectric side of electricity? E: The side of electricity that represents the faster than light phenomenon. T: How does the dielectric relate to Reich's orgone energy? E: Reich found that the orgone and the dielectric field are basically one and the same. If a dielectric field has the proper pulsations then you could almost call it the orgone energy. An example of this is the orgone accumulator, which is alternating layers of dielectric and reflecting material, like a capacitor.

So the high voltage terminal of a properly built Tesla transmitter puts out a dielectric field? E: Right - a dielectric current - a current of many amperes flowing through free space without any electrons. This is a true electrical current.

   So , if we want to get a dielectric current or field we need pulses. And this pulses needs to be like the one's Ed Gray was producing in his motor. Just and idea.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3961 on: April 01, 2015, 03:36:18 AM »
So how will you visually represent this dielectricity?? As a corpuscle like Russell said? As tubes of force? As an elemental plane between the magnetic vortex polarities? Lets say I strain the ether, by cutting lines of magnetic force with a conductor---where do the dielectricity aligns itself regarding the conductor and in which plane? and how it "flows" or "stays" in the conductor ?


Dielectricity is the fundamental field modality



they are centripetal Ether perturbations.


All centripetal counterspatial acceleration (NOT MOTION!) , including the BS dumb hairy 2-legged APES (humans) call "gravity" is DIELECTRIC counter-force (= inertia).



there are no 'conductors', only dielectric reflectors.


see this article, please , its VERY SHORT, suggest reading same.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjournal.borderlandsciences.org%2F1987%2Fthe-fallacy-of-conductors%2F&ei=fksbVePfOMyYNuyqhJgP&usg=AFQjCNGNIu4Oouu80iP_0GpQ0abaeIlKyg&sig2=j2tBihYObalMmFZ3LMpzKg




winks  ;)

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« Reply #3962 on: April 01, 2015, 03:40:49 AM »
What Lyne is trying to say



Lyne is missing MORE than a few screws from his brain-pan.     ;D



hes generally correct, and his intent is NOBLE however.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3963 on: April 01, 2015, 03:43:01 AM »
Are you talking about electrostatic like in Oleg Jefimenko electrostatic motors or an electrostatic generator??. For what I read ,Tesla used both AC and DC in his magnifier transmitter. Now if we are talking about taking a electrostatic charge or pressure and moving it in a way that interacts with the ether and brings the dielectric charge into play then I may understand you better.

Eric Dollard interview:

 T: What exactly is the dielectric side of electricity? E: The side of electricity that represents the faster than light phenomenon. T: How does the dielectric relate to Reich's orgone energy? E: Reich found that the orgone and the dielectric field are basically one and the same. If a dielectric field has the proper pulsations then you could almost call it the orgone energy. An example of this is the orgone accumulator, which is alternating layers of dielectric and reflecting material, like a capacitor.

So the high voltage terminal of a properly built Tesla transmitter puts out a dielectric field? E: Right - a dielectric current - a current of many amperes flowing through free space without any electrons. This is a true electrical current.

   So , if we want to get a dielectric current or field we need pulses. And this pulses needs to be like the one's Ed Gray was producing in his motor. Just and idea.

Dollard is a total inebriated idiot!  You quote him so that tells us about your scientific search for truth, or lack thereof.  Check out his story and then get back to us once you see what it really is.  He took a lot of money and yet produced nothing....admitted he could not.

There you go.

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« Reply #3964 on: April 01, 2015, 03:50:54 AM »
The cardinal error of science lies in shutting the Creator out of His Creation. Russell talk about modalities of ether not about particles. Tubes of force? Not really! They can be counted as a specific ether dynamics, a fundamental one, but not as dielectricity itself. Dielectricity is expressed somehow by Ken as "ether under stress or strain". I think the deep and right answer is in the book Occult Chemistry. My own view is somehow similar to what is learned now about electrostatics. Generally speaking, but do not want to get into details. That should be everyone's homework.

Now, according to my point of view the dielectricity is closer to this view "As an elemental plane between the magnetic vortex polarities" And only if we talk about polarities as a human way of saying (based on human model of thinking) not as an intrinsic reality of their nature. There is not any polarities, others than those defined by human minds. They are rather complementarities, the same as in the above image. They are simply reciprocating necessary dynamics so the ether can manifest and shape this world from micro to macro levels.

To the last question I choose to not answer, because I'm not sure about anything yet. I'm still on the road but far behind understandings of Keely, Tesla, Reich, Russell and other giants of ether science. Perhaps Ken will have a point of view here.

Anyway what you asked now sent my thoughts to the Paul Baumann experiment. However, I'll lean deep and longer on this question! Thanks for asking.




Dielectricity is what the ancient greeks called the AORISTOS DYAS

also called TOLMA (in relation to the Ether).

another name for dielectricity is  ANANKE




Dielectricity is , in short, the Demiurge.



the necessitated attribute of pure unmanifest inertia ( IE , the ETHER ITSELF IN ITSELF BY ITSELF).



as a (CRUDE) analogy, dielectricity is to the ETHER what  ILLUMINATION is to Light (the Ether itself).




There is NOTHING IN THIS COSMOS, KNOWN, UNKNOWN, SEEN, UNSEEN, SMALL, LARGE ETC ETC ETC

nothing anywhere in any form, PERIOD, that does not "have" at least one attribute.



The attribute of the Ether is dielectricity, the fundamental field modality



why say therefore then "modality"????   Why speak of (can you???) ILLUMINATION as "something (else) other than" light itself.


"as it is, as it does, inseparable, ONE THING ONLY, distinguished AS IT IS , as it "does" ....".




Just as, in IRREDUCABLE metaphysics (ala PURE GREEK LOGIC) , there is no such BS as a point.

likewise NO SUCH BS as a LINE.



point and line are both one inseparable whole, indivisible, only differentiated as one DENOTES attribute from Principle, or Principle from attribute.




divinely SIMPLEX but not simple for hairy 2-legged APES (humans) to grasp.


maybe in another 1000 years , "many" humans MIGHT grasp such simplex irreducible Field Mechanics and the logic of same.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3965 on: April 01, 2015, 04:05:13 AM »
T: What exactly is the dielectric side of electricity?



electricity has transverse phenomena,  EM as a induction max relational to its spatial manifestation/ perturbations.


ie speed of EM / light.



Electricity is  Phi x Psi = Q in Planck's , electrification.




Electricity terminates AS magnetism , not INTO magnetism, by losing its dielectric component as necessitated;

electricity is the product of Phi (magnetism) and Psi (dielectricity), is definitionally a hybrid Ether modality of the product of Phi and Psi.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3966 on: April 01, 2015, 06:31:44 AM »


electricity has transverse phenomena,  EM as a induction max relational to its spatial manifestation/ perturbations.


ie speed of EM / light.



Electricity is  Phi x Psi = Q in Planck's , electrification.




Electricity terminates AS magnetism , not INTO magnetism, by losing its dielectric component as necessitated;

electricity is the product of Phi (magnetism) and Psi (dielectricity), is definitionally a hybrid Ether modality of the product of Phi and Psi.

  So electricity can be compared to a flame of fire. Fire being composed of the fuel,oxygen and the temperature necessary to start the reaction. Can we think about electricity as a "compound" of ether modalities?

 So if we take this " flame" or spark of electricity and somehow get rid of the magnetic part,.. can we get pure dielectricity?

At this moment Im 6 years old,... so explain accordingly,.. remember....bees and birds. ;D





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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3967 on: April 01, 2015, 06:55:55 AM »
Raz:'Are you talking about electrostatic like in Oleg Jefimenko electrostatic motors or an electrostatic generator??. For what I read ,Tesla used both AC and DC in his magnifier transmitter. Now if we are talking about taking a electrostatic charge or pressure and moving it in a way that interacts with the ether and brings the dielectric charge into play then I may understand you better.'

I'm talking about entropy/chaos thermodynamics here.electrostatics is beyond the reach of TEMPERATURE entropy 'laws,rules,and regulations' for example a uranium atom is still radio-active at O kelvin.the electrons,protons,neutrons of matter STILL wobble at O k.still interact in a very precise and orderly way.electrostaticssystems below 0 kelvin still possess information states,still possess energy

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« Reply #3968 on: April 01, 2015, 07:05:48 AM »
Here's exerpt about it from a internet convo that I found:  ''Actually, more complicated than that even. Even if a atom were 'perfectly' still, there is still information/entropy encoded in its nuclear quantum states, the quarks that make up the nucleons, the electrons, etc.
Entropy is directly related to information, since each quantum number / states represents information, a perfectly at rest atom still has a non-zero entropy.
The entropy of its 'gross' physical thermodynamic properties, such as bond flexing, wiggling, may be 'zero', but the overall entropy is always non-zero as it depends on the state of all quantum values that make it.
So at Absolute zero, the only kind of entropy that may be roughly zero is that dependent on thermodynamic principles.''

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« Reply #3969 on: April 01, 2015, 09:48:36 AM »
Raz:'Raz:'Are you talking about electrostatic like in Oleg Jefimenko electrostatic motors or an electrostatic generator??. For what I read ,Tesla used both AC and DC in his magnifier transmitter. Now if we are talking about taking a electrostatic charge or pressure and moving it in a way that interacts with the ether and brings the dielectric charge into play then I may understand you better.'

Let me put it another easier way: since electrostatics rules and regulations are different to temperature rules and regulations the rules and regulations of the quantum world and the rules and regulations of the non-quantum world can be juxtaposed and made to work against each other or for each other,depends on design.one can manipulate the non-quantum with the quantum using a different set of rules than the non-quantum.and vise versa.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3970 on: April 01, 2015, 09:52:09 AM »
Apophasis:'Im still in the bahamas, .......

Hey send a pic of those pieces-of-ass on those beaches :)

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3971 on: April 02, 2015, 09:27:24 AM »
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... the necessitated attribute of pure unmanifest inertia ( IE , the ETHER ITSELF IN ITSELF BY ITSELF).

as a (CRUDE) analogy, dielectricity is to the ETHER what ILLUMINATION is to Light (the Ether itself).

Yes indeed, you are right! Just I comprehend here an another crucial aspect! In this analogy both elements used in a comparative way are meaningless words or mental concepts, without the existence of the observer. The Dielectricity is to Ether as what is Illumination to Light only because "I, that I am" or "I that, I am" very aware of their existence, of these another aoristos dyas. The observer is the one who express the necessitativeness of this attribute (ananke - which is not a definite term, at least in my point of view) and its manifestation. He's the one who disturb the pure unmanifested inertia. The same reasoning and meaning could be expressed for the dot-line diad as an inseparable whole. Then who's the observer?

Now going back to the last century dielectricity, known today as electrostatics and defined as a propriety of matter (i.e. ~10^-12 size of nucleus from the entire volume of a Democritus atom - another wrong concept) to attract or repel other matter, phenomena based on something called electrical charge which manifest as a duality, attraction-repulsion (another wrong concept), and generally identified with a small particle called electron (another wrong concept), which is when particle, when wave, and based on which was further developed the nowadays well known electrical current as a flow of electrons trough wires (of course a totally wrong concept but which continue to shape the reality according to is assigned meaning), now, I wonder rhetorically how can it be used other ways than it actually is? Because if Ether has no intrinsic proprieties, the dielectricity must have for sure!

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3972 on: April 02, 2015, 10:20:35 AM »
 
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Now going back to the last century dielectricity, known today as electrostatics and defined as a propriety of matter (i.e. ~10^-12 size of nucleus from the entire volume of a Democritus atom - another wrong concept) to attract or repel other matter, phenomena based on something called electrical charge which manifest as a duality, attraction-repulsion (another wrong concept), and generally identified with a small particle called electron (another wrong concept), which is when particle, when wave, and based on which was further developed the nowadays well known electrical current as a flow of electrons trough wires (of course a totally wrong concept but which continue to shape the reality according to is assigned meaning), now, I wonder rhetorically how can it be used other ways than it actually is? Because if Ether has no intrinsic proprieties, the dielectricity must have for sure!

Sadang: Can you give me an exact reference of dielectricity being know today as electrostatics. I was reading JJ Thompson and Farady and cant find anything like that. If you have a clear book reference please let me know or PM it to me. Now  when you wonder how to be used in other ways than it actually is -- what are you exactly referring to? The ether have "modalities" according to Ken's video # 18. I think what you are asking is how can you relate what we know of "conventional " electric theory to ether theory. I am having the same question as to how to understand the dielectric in a practical way that I can assign to it a way of doing a very simple circuit. Maybe I need to go further down the videos and book , but his video # 18  showed me something I was wondering about the dielectric plane on the magnet graphic he shows. In the most baisc circuit, a battery , a switch and a light bulb, how can I apply all this dielectric theory to see it working ??? I guess we both have to read much more.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #3973 on: April 02, 2015, 11:22:10 AM »


electricity has transverse phenomena,  EM as a induction max relational to its spatial manifestation/ perturbations.


ie speed of EM / light.



Electricity is  Phi x Psi = Q in Planck's , electrification.




Electricity terminates AS magnetism , not INTO magnetism, by losing its dielectric component as necessitated;

electricity is the product of Phi (magnetism) and Psi (dielectricity), is definitionally a hybrid Ether modality of the product of Phi and Psi.

Ken: In your video # 18,.. how will the graphic be if instead of AC in 2 transmission lines next to each other it would be a DC current (and both flowing in the same direction?) how will the graphic change if the magnetic field is not once against the other ? (which I think is because we are using AC? Is the ether dividing itself while it travels thru the transmission line(in 2 modalities-dielectricity and magnetism), and the dielectric "travels" thru the inside of the line while the magnetic "travels" by the outside? Could it be seen like that ? Is that what you mean that the dielectriciy terminates as magnetism by losing its dielectric component?? ( the dielectric component having to stay in just one plane inside a coil magnet ,leaving the rest just as magnetic vortices that  try to go back to equilibrium by joining the dielectric plane ????


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« Reply #3974 on: April 02, 2015, 12:27:35 PM »
If all waves and matter are just forces pressing upon themselves in oscillation one might ask: where did these forces come from?these 'perturbuations'.what actually is manifesting from nothing? Freaky shit guys this thread is beginning to scare me