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Author Topic: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)  (Read 13578 times)

vineet_kiran

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Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« on: September 10, 2014, 09:08:24 AM »
 
Video at :
 
http://youtu.be/DtN9W5LRlhg
 
 
NathanCoppedge :
 
Please have a look at the video and details in pdf attachment.  Does it has anything to do with your 'Master Angle' ?
 
 

TinselKoala

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 06:31:15 PM »
I love the soundtrack!

And I'm sure Lawrence will love this one, too. It's a perfect example of his "lead-out" conjectures.

Newton II

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 03:13:32 AM »
I love the soundtrack!

Me too!   Looks like a crow is also appreciating the music!  (vineet,  be careful,  that crow might release shit on your head)

BTW by pushing the central shaft to the other side,  you will be lifting the lever arm up carrying the weight.  So,  it slides down down due to
gravity making  rotation.  It is same as lifting a weight and allowing it to fall freely.  Why do you expect overunity in that process? 

vineet_kiran

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2014, 06:19:00 AM »
Me too!   Looks like a crow is also appreciating the music!  (vineet,  be careful,  that crow might release shit on your head)

BTW by pushing the central shaft to the other side,  you will be lifting the lever arm up carrying the weight.  So,  it slides down down due to
gravity making  rotation.  It is same as lifting a weight and allowing it to fall freely.  Why do you expect overunity in that process?

 
Thanks for your advice.  Next time when I conduct that experiment, I shall wear a helmet.
 
Surely weight will be lifted up when the shaft is pushed to the other side.  But the trick here is to synchronise various motions and forces so that input energy is minimised.

A moving weight can be lifted easily without much effort.  A simple example is,  if you start a loaded truck near a steep slope upwards on a road and accelerate the truck,  the truck will not move up the ramp.  But if you come from a distance with speed,  the truck will easily move up the slope.

In this experiment the action and reaction forces, moment of inertia, kinetic energy of rotation etc., everything comes into picture thereby minimising the input energy required to move the plate and you have to take the energy output from rotating shaft which developes considerable torque at the centre because of lengthy lever arm carrying weight only on one side.

 

Newton II

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2014, 12:48:50 PM »
In this experiment the action and reaction forces, moment of inertia, kinetic energy of rotation etc., everything comes into picture thereby minimising the input energy required to move the plate and you have to take the energy output from rotating shaft which developes considerable torque at the centre because of lengthy lever arm carrying weight only on one side.

Cannot makeout if it can really be a OU device.  But how about using a lengthy  central shaft  above the lever arm to get additional  mechanical advantage so that  it can be pushed easily to the other end with negligible input energy?

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2014, 06:27:01 PM »
Hi Newton II,
this looks like a step in the right direction.

Newton II

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2014, 04:49:17 AM »
Hi Newton II,
this looks like a step in the right direction.


But how will you take power output from a 'oscillo-rotating'  shaft??!! ??? ???

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vineet_kiran

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2014, 10:47:04 AM »

But how will you take power output from a 'oscillo-rotating'  shaft??!! ??? ???


You can take power output like this! (see the attachment).

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 01:09:44 PM »
more simple

1 start rotation energy Eo
2 move up mass m +m   energy Eup
3 stop rotation  ( here You will take back Eo )
4 You can exchanege potenial Energy  Ep to work

Ep-Eup >0


Each mass m during fast rotation is losting gravitation mass !!!
I'm first engineer inventor who proved this fact

My above picture it is only theoretical explain why and how  I schuld get NOBEL Prize for my work
I solved very old problem for physics ( I'm moving or not !!!)


burnit0017

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2014, 03:31:16 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTWwp5qUY3U


Hi, small power at the input, more power at the output. The gain is from mechanical advantage and gravity.
Good luck with your project. Cheers

vineet_kiran

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2014, 04:25:00 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTWwp5qUY3U

Hi, small power at the input, more power at the output. The gain is from mechanical advantage and gravity.
Good luck with your project. Cheers

 
He is rotating the shaft, not oscillating.  Rotating a wheel carrying weight only on one side is a highly inefficient process.
 
Also compare the time consumed in rotating the shaft and oscillating the shaft.  When you oscillate the shaft, the time consumed is very less and rotation of shaft is taken care of by acceleration due to gravity which is 9.8 m/sec.sq.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2014, 04:08:10 PM »
Seems that everybody here wants to reinvent the John device  ;)
See TheJohnDevice: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfLjEMMCeS75UIRadEiJ2cQ
 

vineet_kiran

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 02:13:25 AM »
Seems that everybody here wants to reinvent the John device  ;)
See TheJohnDevice: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfLjEMMCeS75UIRadEiJ2cQ

Is there any working prototype?

burnit0017

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Re: Angular Gravity Machine (A question to NathanCoppedge)
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2014, 02:30:52 AM »