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sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1350 on: March 05, 2015, 03:39:32 AM »
Why can't people see this?  Do they no longer teach math in schools?
http://consumer.healthday.com/mental-health-information-25/addiction-news-6/tips-former-smokers-campaign-ajpm-cdc-release-batch-1505-694427.html

Cost effectiveness for anti-smoking campaign was at one time $50K per year of life saved.  A vaccine costs how much again?

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/124/Supplement_5/S492.full

Cost of administering a vaccine. <$50

It's hard not to consider MMR to be cost-effective. (also that study from pediatrics should take the wind out of all the "love of money" crap.  Docs do not make much on vaccination)

Tink

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« Reply #1351 on: March 05, 2015, 03:40:04 AM »
Lol, I hit a nerve!
Seems like one troll who posts with 4 accounts or 4 trolls who work for the same organization.
Do you peeps have a job for me?

sarkeizen

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« Reply #1352 on: March 05, 2015, 03:43:22 AM »
Seems like one troll who posts with 4 accounts or 4 trolls who work for the same organization.
Only if you're stupid.  Which you are.  Try to rise above that.

I notice you have stopped answering questions about the ethics of your behavior.   Perhaps I hit a nerve by calling out your lack of integrity.

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« Reply #1353 on: March 05, 2015, 03:53:17 AM »
Only if you're stupid.  Which you are.  Try to rise above that.

I notice you have stopped answering questions about the ethics of your behavior.   Perhaps I hit a nerve by calling out your lack of integrity.
Lol mate, I am sincere but I know you are not and neither are "your mates".
Trollalot as much as you want but you look very silly and insincere.

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« Reply #1354 on: March 05, 2015, 04:18:28 AM »
Okay, still waiting for a troll job offer (for less than 5000 Euro per month no deal!).
No health trolling because of all I have been through with my children.
Vaccine's Safety: A Crime Against Humanity by Dr. Sherri J Tenpenny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJb01ZiJNk

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1355 on: March 05, 2015, 04:40:19 AM »
Lol mate, I am sincere but
...you deliberately post evidence that you know is not very strong.
...you deliberately avoid pointing out the weakness in evidence others point out.

If any of those are not true - please speak up - but please don't pretend this behavior of yours has any integrity. :)

MarkE

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« Reply #1356 on: March 05, 2015, 05:14:54 AM »
Okay, still waiting for a troll job offer (for less than 5000 Euro per month no deal!).
No health trolling because of all I have been through with my children.
Vaccine's Safety: A Crime Against Humanity by Dr. Sherri J Tenpenny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJb01ZiJNk
She doesn't actually present any kind of logical argument.  She does a lot of hand waving.  Mostly she commits the logical fallacy of argument from ignorance over and over again.  She makes the fallacious argument that the best immunization is the result of catching the disease.  What she ignores is the horrendous permanent damage and death that results when people catch an infectious disease.  She alleges that components of vaccines cause problems, but she fails to cite any actual evidence. 

So again: What criteria do you use to determine whether something is dangerous or not?  According to that criteria:  Which vaccines are dangerous?  What objective evidence have you used to determine that each of the vaccines you declare are dangerous meet your criteria?

joel321

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« Reply #1357 on: March 05, 2015, 05:23:24 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vddULW_7CcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMBvQ3QVJp0

Mind blown! Or at least very eye opening. I never really thought about that. But I don't mind digging for truth.

joel321

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« Reply #1358 on: March 05, 2015, 05:57:48 AM »
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/36129/Vaccine-Denial-A-Modest-Proposal-to-Reduce-the-Controversy/?uuid=6F808B25-5056-9627-3C1C0B7DA4C0C1D3

There is a lot to digest there and a lot to understand too. But common knowledge speaks 100% truth.

-Take for example the tv commercials. They are timed and also manipulate the sound decibels. It starts little by little. The first commercial is short in time to allow the viewer to get drawn in...then the second commercial is a little longer and the sound gets way louder (they raise the volume on purpose)...The climax is a very long commercial and very loud. Conclusion, they want to engrave the commercial in your brain. = money from your pockets to theirs. = don't care if you get ADD.

-Take for example Comcast or AT&T, you are a very fragile little old lady that wants to retire and enjoy good quality TV. She is paying for her entertainment. But then comcast is starts to take advantage of her...she decided to cancel the subscription....well, not so fast, says comcast, you will not leave us that quick before we take more money from you. (just google comcast experiences to see the full picture)

-Take for example HVAC repair men. (or any other business for that matter). I have witness seeing an ill crippled guy get charged for a brand new HVAC unit that would be $3000 out of his pocket when he just needed a $10 dollar part. Saw it with my eyes, understand it because I know how AC units work.

-Take for example the police. They have a quota to maintain. The police department actually makes money from how many tickets they give out. So they have to give out certain amount of tickets out even if you are not guilty. If you are not guilty of the ticket, it will just get dismissed in court. But then you have to understand that you missed a day at work. That ticket went on your record. And, most importantly, if the cop sees you again, he will pull you over to meet his quota. (easy target).

There are more examples regarding GREED! But these are A LOT already. The point i'm trying to make is with all of this evidence I find it hard to believe that medicine is only made for the good of the people. There has to be corruption there that they believe they can get away with. I'm not against medicine at all nor vaccines, I'm just AGAIST the corruption! Where corruption = MANDATORY anything.

Overall, regarding the evidence, they don't really want to help us. They just want to take our money.  As long as we don't complain and just take it, they will continue to do it and will get worse.

It is like a bully. A guy kicks you and you say stop it. Then he kicks you again and you say stop it. Then eventually you just get kicked and kicked and kicked and kicked and kicked on if you don't do anything about it.

But I believe that the government does not give a rats ass if I die or live as long as it's pockets are getting filled with money...


joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1359 on: March 05, 2015, 06:13:52 AM »
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530102.600-google-wants-to-rank-websites-based-on-facts-not-links.html#.VPR2DvnF98H

Actually I don't mind that at all. Google just came out of nowhere (a search engine) and started to take over everyone.

So I would trust google over any other search engine.

It would at least get rid of those people that are living in lalaland, which are a lot.

How did a search engine get so huge?

A googol actually is the largest number – 10 100

10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.

Or at least very big. I don't know jack about Graham’s number.

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« Reply #1360 on: March 05, 2015, 06:25:08 AM »
If HVAC repairmen used JB Weld, they would not have to charge as much for their repairs.  Instead, they sell new parts that folks do not even need.  I have repaired my heat pump with JB Weld and it is still working after 3 years now.  Total cost?  $3.00.  Estimate from the repairman?  $450.00.

Bill

sarkeizen

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« Reply #1361 on: March 05, 2015, 06:41:59 AM »
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/36129/Vaccine-Denial-A-Modest-Proposal-to-Reduce-the-Controversy/?uuid=6F808B25-5056-9627-3C1C0B7DA4C0C1D3

There is a lot to digest there and a lot to understand too. But common knowledge speaks 100% truth.
Guess you didn't catch some of the obvious deceptions in it.  Oh well I guess "digging for truth" isn't really your thing. :) :)

MarkE

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« Reply #1362 on: March 05, 2015, 06:52:39 AM »
If HVAC repairmen used JB Weld, they would not have to charge as much for their repairs.  Instead, they sell new parts that folks do not even need.  I have repaired my heat pump with JB Weld and it is still working after 3 years now.  Total cost?  $3.00.  Estimate from the repairman?  $450.00.

Bill
But if they put JB Weld in vaccines:  What then?

Magluvin

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« Reply #1363 on: March 05, 2015, 06:16:40 PM »
" "During the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, researchers at the B.C. Centre for Disease Control originally thought seasonal flu shots from 2008 might offer extra protection against the new pandemic strain. They were puzzled to find instead, seasonal flu vaccination almost doubled the risk of infection with pandemic flu."

Did you read that? An untested vaccine that health authorities all around the world urged everyone to get for their own protection against a novel, pandemic flu strain -- and a vaccine that they promised would also protect against seasonal flu -- actually made people who got it more prone to contracting the flu. This is now being openly admitted, affirming what independent news outlets like Natural News have been warning the public about for years.

And yet, despite this admission, these same health authorities are still trying to scare the public into rushing out and getting a flu shot. Huh? The vaccine doesn't work, they now say. And people who get it year after year are more prone to contracting the flu, they also say. But everyone should still rush out and get it, especially if they're in a high-risk category?"
Learn more:  http://www.naturalnews.com/048871_flu_shots_vaccine_paradox_immune_system.html#ixzz3TX4Ts18X


Also from that link....

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Peer-reviewed study reveals that unvaccinated people are most protected against influenza At least six separate studies conducted by the same people that are still pushing the flu shot have confirmed that seasonal flu shots make people more prone to contracting the flu. The evidence is now overwhelming that, rather than impart immunity as long claimed, flu shots actually destroy the immune system and increase the risk of infection.

One would think that, now that the cat is out of the bag, these peddlers of quackery would quit while they're ahead, admit that they lied about flu shot safety and efficacy, and go out and find a real profession. Instead, they're continuing to push the seasonal flu shot, which as they now put it causes "interference" with people's immune systems, as they hype the soon unveiling of a "universal" flu shot that will be better than ever (fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, well, you know the rest).

The real kicker here is that, in the same CBC News report, a study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases is referenced, revealing that the people who are most protected from the flu are, wait for it -- the unvaccinated. So tell me again, why should anyone get a flu shot?"[/color]

sarkeizen

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« Reply #1364 on: March 05, 2015, 07:56:59 PM »
The real kicker here is that, in the same CBC News report, a study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases is referenced, revealing that the people who are most protected from the flu are, wait for it -- the unvaccinated. So tell me again, why should anyone get a flu shot?"
Is it really worth my time showing you how Mike Adams is an illiterate moron here (and you by extension are a twice the moron he is because you decided just to vomit what he says) or can you just take my word for it that you are too stupid to live. :) 

Let me know.  I'll be happy to untangle this for you.