You may be correct in that assessment given the state of today's education and how it has negatively impacted the
state of affairs technologically in America.

No it has nothing to do with your ideas about education in the USA.  It's just that given the same amount of time allocated to study of the Intel ISA you will not be able to produce the same level of results as you did with the 6502.  In my house alone I have maybe five machines.  Of those machines four of them are different ISA targets.  So each of them has optimizations it responds to.  Many of them will have mutually exclusive optimal cases.  My D525 Atom requires code-reordering for optimal performance but it also has ssse3 which would make it distinct from even other Atoms, my WS machine has twelve cores, unless hyper-threading is enabled then it has 24 pseudo-cores.  My laptop has specific instructions which target AES encryption - AES256 is 10x faster using these.

It is simply erroneous to assume that today you can just break open a manual and read cycle timings and create optimal code.

Suffice it to say that there are processors in use which bear little resemblance to the advanced Intel products designed for public consumption.

Oh really?  Name two.

Sarkey, you do seem to have some talent and some amount of intelligence.  Unfortunately (make that Very Unfortunately) your preoccupation with bolstering your artificial 'supremacist' persona detracts from what little credibility you infrequently reveal.  You are very amusing though...

I'd say you're more sad than amusing.  I've sat here and responded to your arguments with clear and straightforward counters.  I've shown you cycle timings for various instructions.  I clearly know this stuff better than you but either to keep up your dime-store mystic persona or because you really are deluded you have to say (or tell yourself) "no it's not like that, I have secret knowledge that counters that but I can't hold it up for examination".

Even if this is just a persona it seems rather than making up all this shit you could spend that time actually learning something to do with microprocessors...or playing video games but both of those are considerably harder than just making up stories that you can sort of half-believe to feel better about wherever your life is right now.

In Truth, cycle timings have little to do with creating 'optimal code.'

Spoken like someone without a clue.  If you had a CPU where moving values between registers  took seven hundred billion cycles and another did it in one.  You would approach coding radically differently between the two.  Hence optimal code has everything to do with cycle timings.    

The 6502 is ancient history.  I wonder why you seem to be stuck there...

I'm not why would you think that? Perhaps you're not listening?

It is fun watching you as you struggle to attain intellectual dominance.

I think you have to know something before anyone would consider you worth dominating.   Let me know when you do.

I notice that you've been unable to name the non-Intel CPU's that you referenced as "real space age stuff".   Who buys these fictions you come up with?

Your rather childish example belies a true lack of comprehension.  Selecting the proper instructions
to accomplish a given task reliably and without any possibility of error is of paramount importance.

The question was about optimal code.  Code that performs a task seven million times slower than other code that performs the same task is even by SeaMonkey standards (the lowest rank on the universal scale of critical thinking) sub-optimal. 

So let me know, when you know something and then we can talk.

I would not (spoon feeding) name them.

So in other words you made this up as part of your dime-store mystic persona.  Thanks for the heads up.

Seriously does anyone actually BUY the whole "I know more than you act" you put on?  It's not exactly very convincing.

Seriously does anyone actually BUY the whole "I know more than you act" you put on?  It's not exactly very convincing.

Nay

Nobody buys it?  Well that's a relief.

If vaccines and vaccinations had proven to be safe, effective and non-hazardous then there would be no opposition.

Yawn.  Define: "safe", "effective" and "proven".

Whoops.  You can't.

Those 'terms' have already been defined by the Institutional Advocates and Policy Makers.  In fact, you've already indicated what those definitions are by your unfettered support.

Which would be relevant if it was related to the asked question.  However it's not.  YOU were making a claim about "safe" "proven" and "effective" obviously you were using your definitions there.  It seems entirely reasonable to know what those are.

Although it's not actually surprising that you haven't the faintest clue what you mean.

The atrocious record speaks for itself.

That you don't know what you're talking about?  Yes your record does speak loudly that you know less than a shit sandwich.

Again if you had something to say, then defining your terms is entirely reasonable.  Since you refuse, it's likely you have nothing to say.

Thanks for admitting that.

lol bill trust me I know more about computers than you regarding all aspects about them. Period. You know why that is? Like I have already mentioned that in order for someone to understand something ONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES.

I already mentioned that that is how the eyes perception work = why we see in 3 dimencional. That is how GPS work = triangulation, this also applies to cell phone antennas.

Now you are asking me if I know about thermal compound! Why no I don't. I don't even know that there is diamond powder, gold powder, silver powder, etc thermal compound. Lol

Tell me how to over-clock a CPU?
Tell me how to over-clock a GPU?
Tell me what is virtualization in a computer? Like OS e.g. vortualbox, CD-ROM virtualization, Browser virtualization like google chrome implements. Etc.
Tell me how do you do a back up image of your OS?
Tell me what services do you disable, say in windows 7, in the services.msc?
Tell me how to set up a server?
Tell me what's the difference between ubuntu, debian, and linux mint?
Tell me how to open up a ps3, ps4, and wii system to jailbreak it? (i.e. install homebrew channel)
Tell me how to water coolking the CPU works?

I can go on and on about how much more I know about computers because I look at the from different angles to view the big picture. That is the way one should look at vaccines and not just swallow the fat pill that everything that someone tells you, you should believe.

Like I said bill, I don't want to take your money

Now back on topic.

Joel:

It is very funny, and sad, that while you claim to know all of these things about computers, you ask me how to do basic things with them.

You really don't know how to overclock a CPU?  (I am running at 4.6 GHz)  If you don't know how to do this, just read some books...why ask me?

This is too funny.  Keep looking at computers from different angles and all you will get is a stiff neck.

The questions you have asked me are so very basic...come on...really?  Just look them up online if you don't know the answers.

Bill

Not knowing how epoxy is used in building a state of the art computer is really basic 101 stuff Joel...you flunked..ha ha.