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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2265 on: October 18, 2014, 08:45:55 PM »
No, they don't. No, it doesn't.
Please feel free to cite some scientific references for the _obtaining_ of energy from the "zero point".
Please study my posts starting from reply 2179.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2266 on: October 19, 2014, 01:48:31 PM »
Engineers' meeting on Oct 19, 2014 at Peter Chan's Office.
 
The Chan Wheel was pivoted on two loose screws.  That was not ideal but was sufficient for learning and getting data purposes.  Top picture showed Mr. Peter Chan and his wheel with Weight W1 hanging and resting on files as support.  Bottom picture showed Weight W1 moved to lever arm.  A crank will be used to convert the up and down motion to rotational motion.
 
Comments include:
1. Use a larger wheel.
2. Use trianglar frame to provide flexibility.
3, Firmer construction to reduce shaking.
4. Use a proper shaft for Lever to reduce friction.
5. Look for ready-made crankshaft.
 
The consensus was that it is worth the trouble to do the Loopback.  It may take longer than a few days.
The PDF file was used effectively.  It explained why the Ting Wheel should have an unbalanced wheel.  The setup would not slide any more.  Simple but effective set up for discussion amongst engineers.
 
Follow the Divine Hand.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2267 on: October 19, 2014, 02:33:26 PM »
 http://youtu.be/p4rgLBU34Oo
Chan Wheel first part is available for viewing at youtube.
 
The main purpose of the first part is that the unbalanced wheel is "equivalent" to the pendulum.  The weights and lever arm positions are adjusted to provide the largest "lead-out" gravitational energy.
 
Note that one pull can rotate the unbalanced wheel over 10 times.  The screw pivot had a large friction.  There was considerable shaking.  Such losses were high.  The "hand feel" by the Engineers indicated that the up and down forces on Weight 1 (2.5 Kg) was considerable.  After improvements, the feedback mechanism with crankshaft and chains will be added.  Your suggestions are welcome.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2268 on: October 19, 2014, 10:28:32 PM »
Comments from Aaron Quant:
1.  We now understand that the "pulsing" or "jerking" motion is responsible for leading out gravitational energy.  The use of an unbalanced flywheel is essential.
2.  In all Universities or Technical Institutions, unbalanced rotation is automatically considered as "bad engineering".  No wonder the traditional scientists and engineers missed the Lee-Tseung lead-out energy theory.  Many automatically rejected it.
3.  It may be possible to use almost any low power engine to drive an unbalanced wheel to lead-out gravitational (and electron cloud) energy.  Use the chain mechanism to drive a larger generator.  The larger generator may be able to generate electricity to drive electrical appliance and also drive the low power engine.  Once started, such a lead-out energy system can run forever.
4.  If the Ting Wheel can generate 5KW and the battery can be fully recharged, the World will have a useful product "right away".
5.  The Military in USA, China and elsewhere can no longer keep the secret.  The 225 HP Pulse Motor is not a hoax.  Will the Military (and the Oil Interest) kill all the scientists and engineers who read the Tseung posts?
 
My advice to Tseung is to continue to follow the Divine Guidance and benefit the World.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2269 on: October 20, 2014, 08:41:24 AM »
U should use 2 rigid and strong metal weight holder like pendulum weight holder. It takes less air resistance loss.

The xtra energy comes from centrifugal force. Make resonace in system.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2271 on: October 20, 2014, 11:23:30 AM »
One "crazy" suggestion to produce the crankshaft effect is to use the pile of old computer CDs.
The task becomes to "build the firm support D".  Will it be easier to implement?
Any comments?
 
One comment:
This can be a simple basic crankshaft unit.  Get the hook part ready.  It may serve many purposes.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2272 on: October 20, 2014, 10:00:14 PM »
Buy existing crankshaft?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2273 on: October 21, 2014, 08:23:19 PM »
The simplest crank from wikipedia?
 
The concept is clear.  It is the engineering part.  Bessler did it 300 years ago.  Can we do it now?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2274 on: October 21, 2014, 11:42:38 PM »
 Let me summarize what we learned from the Chan Wheel so far.

1.    The Milkovic 2 stage Pendulum leads out or brings in  gravitational energy at the pushing and at the Weight W1 lifting stages.  The most convincing evidence is that the amplitude of oscillation of the pendulum does not significantly decrease when W1 was lifted.
2.    The pendulum can be replaced by an unbalanced wheel to become the Chan Wheel.  For small angles of oscillation, the physics and mathematics are identical to 1.  However, the unbalanced wheel can have higher speed of rotation and thus can bring in more gravitational energy.
3.    The up and down motion of Weight W1 can be changed to rotational motion via a “crankshaft” mechanism.  Mr. Peter Chan and Team have not decided on the best mechanism yet.
4.    From the “feel” of the up and down motion, the consensus was that the energy should be able to overcome the frictional losses of the unbalanced wheel.  Self loop is possible and worth the continued construction effort.
5.    The Chan Wheel can be improved with
a.     Larger diameter Wheel
b.    Multiple wheels in parallel
c.     Heavier Weights W1 and W2
d.    Longer Lever arm
e.    Lower friction
6.    However, the most important outcome is that
a.    The pendulum can be replaced by a horizontal magnetic arrangement.
b.    The magnetic arrangement can lead out magnetic energy.
c.     The lead out magnetic or electromagnetic energy can be many times the gravitational energy.
d.    The lead out magnetic energy can be via an unbalanced wheel also.
7.    Existing Pulse Wheels such as Bedini, Chas Campbell, Peru Energy Multiplier, Laing, Wang, Tong and Ting Wheels can be improved with the addition or tuning of the proper “unbalanced wheel”.  The 225 HP Pulse Motor is not a hoax.  In Hong Kong, both the Tong and Ting Wheels can be demonstrated to be overunity and self loop.  Such improvements are underway.
8.    Any Engineer can follow the Lee-Tseung Theory and construct the Chan Wheel.  The construction details of the Chan Wheel are explained in every detail.  Even the early thoughts and mistakes are disclosed for all to learn.
9.    All researchers on overunity devices will benefit from the understanding of the Lee-Tseung Lead-out Energy theory, the Milkovic 2SO, the Chan Wheel, the Bedini and Ting Wheels.  Such research will not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.
10.                      Lee Cheung Kin is over 80 years old.  Lawrence Tseung is 69 and has poor eyesight, hearing, and unsteady hands etc.  Both of them can no longer do experiments.  The Theory is out.  There will be no patents to restrict the development of the Lead out Energy technology.  The young engineers worldwide are encouraged to stand on our shoulders and benefit the World.

God Bless.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2275 on: October 22, 2014, 08:44:03 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK1MjVrkY-k
Hot rod products.  The rod and crankshaft appeared to be exactly what we need.
Buy existing products.  Save money and time.
 
Hopefully, the completed Chan Wheel will be out withing weeks.  One pull and forever running - using lead-out gravitational energy?
http://www.hotrodsproducts.com/
An ebay search on crankshaft turned up an used one for USD75.  The Chinese used parts may cost much less.  Looks like that there is no need to do any design.  Just select and buy.  Chan Wheel should be out in weeks if not days.
Updated Chan Wheel presentation file is attached.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2276 on: October 23, 2014, 08:29:35 PM »
Video showing that the Balanced Chan Wheel cannot lead out gravitational energy.
 
http://youtu.be/Kqtp4-X6TGI
 
This is the most common mistake for the Pulse Motor Inventors.  One must have the oscillation or vibration or the Lee-Tseung Pull to lead out the gravitational or magnetic energy.

Compare with this video

http://youtu.be/FolD_R32Eqw

The Unbalanced Chan Wheel showed the Milkovic 2SO effect.  Gravitational Energy is brought in.
 
The comparison convinced many Hong Kong Researchers to add an unbalanced wheel to their inventions.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2277 on: October 24, 2014, 07:43:53 AM »
Now that the Chan Wheel has been fully described and that Mr. Peter Chan and team are waiting for parts, I shall turn the attention to the Yuen Wheel.

The Yuen Wheel starts from a different point of view:
1. If an unbalanced wheel is needed to bring-in gravitational energy, how about using two unbalanced wheels?
2. If we arrange them side by side with a common axle, one will affect the other and vice versa.
3. If when the weight is at the top of one wheel and another equal weight is at the bottom of the other identical wheel, one will provide maximum torque to help to provide rotation to the other when it is at the maximum height position.
4. If gravitational energy is brought-in, the brough-in energy may be more or equal to overcoming frictionThe Yuen Wheel will then rotate forever.  It is another form of the Bessler Wheel.
5. The design is much easier.  See attached diagram.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2278 on: October 25, 2014, 07:09:42 PM »
HK$1,000 has now been allocated to develop the Yuen Wheel.  The money comes from the "red pocket" money of Ms. Forever Yuen.  She will have a Wheel as a present for her birthday!
 
The breakdown is as follows:
1. Two old bicycle wheels at HK$40 each.
2. Two lead Weights from fishing shops  at HK$40 each.
3. Frame parts to build a support similar to the Chan Wheel at HK$200.
4. Bearing and steel rod at HK$200.
5. Screws, nuts and other parts at HK$100.
6. Miscellaneous at HK$340
 
Labor and design costs are free (voluntary).  The Yuen team will compete with others to come up with the Forever Running Wheel to benefit the World.  The success will be the reward.  It is likely to win the overunity prizes in this Forum and other competitions around the World.
 
Some Venture Funds already promised to invest Billions if any Wheel can lead-out energy and run continuously for 2 weeks.  Many Politicans and Academics are waiting for the public demonstration.  The Yuen Wheel will be free for the World to copy and replicate.  Other wheels such as Wang, Tong and Ting Wheels will be commercial ventures that can provide 5KW or more. 
 
There is no need for the Chinese and USA Military to keep the 225 HP Pulse Motor a secret any more.  Once they release the technology (backed up by the Lee-Tseung Lead out Energy Theory), the energy crisis will be over. 
 
HK$1,000 is approximately US$130.  Almost any household in Hong Kong can afford it.  Every family is a potential "angel investor".  Money is not a problem.  Volunteers are not a problem.  Technical knowhow is not a problem.  The Yuen Wheel will be developed in the coming days.  It is likely to be completed before the Chan Wheel that is waiting for parts.
 
Thank you to the Almighty for the Divine Guidance.  Amen.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2279 on: October 25, 2014, 11:53:23 PM »
Drawing inspiration from the Peru Energy Multiplier.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPe1zB5JQmU
 
The Inventor was very, very close to inventing the Yuen Wheel that will rotate forever.  Without the Lee-Tseung Lead Out Energy theory to guide him, he had to experiment his way and took on complicated paths.
 
If he had used two unbalanced wheels instead of one unbalanced wheel and one balanced flywheel, he would have been home!  However, he deserves much credit.  He provided inspiration and confidence that the Yuen Wheel will succeed even before construction.