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Author Topic: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.  (Read 69834 times)

Offline mangyhyena

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #240 on: September 10, 2008, 09:41:47 AM »
Honk, your motor sounds fascinating.  Thank you for posting your progress as you went.  I went through the pages and was able to bring myself up to speed, though there are still things I don't understand about it; not that your posts are at fault for my ignorance.  But I've got the main gist.

I sent you a PM about eliminating the sticking point in an attraction motor setup.  Not sure it will help you at all, but it's something to consider.

You're helping a lot of people and I just wanted to say I appreciate it.  Thanks again.

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #240 on: September 10, 2008, 09:41:47 AM »
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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #241 on: September 10, 2008, 03:15:31 PM »
There are many people out there who are focussed only on devices which will power their home.
It is hard to see the Adams doing this. Also, there is a great deal of incorrect info on this motor,
possibly because it was an early one. The principle outlined above is vital to its success.
Here is a report of OU:
http://wmsn.net/Adams%20motor%20replication.htm

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #241 on: September 10, 2008, 03:15:31 PM »
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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #242 on: September 10, 2008, 04:12:14 PM »
I'm dissapointed. :(
It's just some text saying it could be OU if properly designed. It's not a report on acctual success.
And the site is old, from back in 2002. If successful there should be more info available due to this long time period.
It seems like the regular OU motor report telling WOOW! here it is, but then there is silence and no follow up.
The reasons to this can be many but mostly it's is due to the motor not being OU when proper measurements are made.

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #243 on: October 07, 2008, 10:46:21 PM »
Hey Honk any update?   ;D



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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #244 on: December 15, 2010, 10:41:38 PM »
Hi all.

Here comes the update.....long time overdue....as I was finished this spring but
haven't had any time updating the forum with my findings until now, sorry for that.
It has been an extensive build, taking lot's of time and effort.

At first some pictures, and the story saved for last. Happy reading.

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #245 on: December 15, 2010, 10:45:35 PM »
More pics....

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #245 on: December 15, 2010, 10:45:35 PM »
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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #246 on: December 15, 2010, 10:47:08 PM »
More pics....

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #246 on: December 15, 2010, 10:47:08 PM »

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #247 on: December 15, 2010, 10:48:50 PM »
Last pics...

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #248 on: December 15, 2010, 10:53:38 PM »
Here's a link to a selection of movies that OU forum couldn't hold.
Perhaps Stefan Hartman can download the zip and make it permanent
in this thread before it is deleted by Rapidshare after 30 days.
http://rapidshare.com/files/437158018/FBDISSM_Movies.zip

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #249 on: December 15, 2010, 10:57:53 PM »
The story of FBDISSM development:
All stuff was lasercut for precision and speeding up development.
The motor was built like a pancake in layers. Pretty fun actually.

I tried several types of electromagnets, from narrow to wide with
heavy duty winding to slash copper losses to a minimum.
Each electromagnet was calculated to achieve maximum performance.
But the main problem is the induced voltage in the windings of the
electromagnet when the rotormagnet passes by.
This increases the input power by a least 4-6 times higher, perhaps
a lot more, just to be able to overcome the sticky spot.

I built 3 different controllers that recycled BEMF for max efficiency.
It made no difference with the BEMF recycling, it was still no good.
I even tried adding large N45SH magnets to the back of the solenoid
electromagnets but it had no effect what so ever on motor performance.

The videos show two of the many test runs I made during development.
The last test run with Solenoid v3.0 I achieved a puny 150 RPM.
Input power was approx 1700-1900W while the motor could deliver
approx 400-500W from a shaft load, meaning a 25% efficient motor.

My findings reveal the Magnetic Wankel being far from overunity.
I don't regret taking this journey as I have learnt a lot about magnetism.
I feel the magnetic cycle is 100% conservative as long as there is no magic
"pulse generators" coming along that can match the force field from NdFeb's
at low input while it doesn't get affected by the moving magnetic fields.

Regards / Honk

Btw, Paul Sprain has failed in his research as well.
See these links, they direct you to some statements from Terry Blanton.
His was one of Sprains engineers during development.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37212.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37213.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37251.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg39527.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg36955.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg40636.html

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #249 on: December 15, 2010, 10:57:53 PM »
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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #250 on: December 16, 2010, 12:21:00 AM »
Hi Honk,

Absolutly amazing job! Thanks for all your hard efforts during the years and unfortunately you have not got excess energy.

I wonder what your next build is going to be, for I hope you do not give up?

Merry Xmas!

Gyula

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #251 on: December 16, 2010, 02:23:18 AM »
The story of FBDISSM development:
All stuff was lasercut for precision and speeding up development.
The motor was built like a pancake in layers. Pretty fun actually.

I tried several types of electromagnets, from narrow to wide with
heavy duty winding to slash copper losses to a minimum.
Each electromagnet was calculated to achieve maximum performance.
But the main problem is the induced voltage in the windings of the
electromagnet when the rotormagnet passes by.
This increases the input power by a least 4-6 times higher, perhaps
a lot more, just to be able to overcome the sticky spot.

I built 3 different controllers that recycled BEMF for max efficiency.
It made no difference with the BEMF recycling, it was still no good.
I even tried adding large N45SH magnets to the back of the solenoid
electromagnets but it had no effect what so ever on motor performance.

The videos show two of the many test runs I made during development.
The last test run with Solenoid v3.0 I achieved a puny 150 RPM.
Input power was approx 1700-1900W while the motor could deliver
approx 400-500W from a shaft load, meaning a 25% efficient motor.

My findings reveal the Magnetic Wankel being far from overunity.
I don't regret taking this journey as I have learnt a lot about magnetism.
I feel the magnetic cycle is 100% conservative as long as there is no magic
"pulse generators" coming along that can match the force field from NdFeb's
at low input while it doesn't get affected by the moving magnetic fields.

Regards / Honk

Btw, Paul Sprain has failed in his research as well.
See these links, they direct you to some statements from Terry Blanton.
His was one of Sprains engineers during development.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37212.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37213.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37251.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg39527.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg36955.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg40636.html

Honk,
Wow!  I am impressed with the build of your motor.  I wanted to complement you on a very nice job!  Even if the results were not what you hoped for, the pictures show the level of time and expertise you have put into this device.  Great job.

Liberty


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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #252 on: December 16, 2010, 02:47:17 PM »
The story of FBDISSM development:
All stuff was lasercut for precision and speeding up development.
The motor was built like a pancake in layers. Pretty fun actually.

Just like Jack's motors, your motor is a work of art. I'm sad that it didn't work out.

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #252 on: December 16, 2010, 02:47:17 PM »
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Offline khabe

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #253 on: December 16, 2010, 04:22:16 PM »
This is great work, Honk,
Very seldom seen in OU something like that,
I cordially appreciate!
Like modest specialist by electric motors I do not want to fustigate about principles and design,
besides there are sevaral dubitable things for me  :o
but one thing hits promptly in to my eye ... you use incredible thick laminations for cores of electromagnets (as stator).
Today even 0.5mm laminations are too thick when speaking about motors where efficiency is over 90%  because eddy losses,
Perhaps when similar devices for an ´overunity´ then laminations need to be even much more thinner  ::)
And ... shaft is too narrow for this large powerhouse, even ´pro rata´, not only mechanically.
But anyway - very nice work!
Took a lot of time and money I think,
Have a nice time,
Regards,
khabe

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #253 on: December 16, 2010, 04:22:16 PM »

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Re: F.B.D.I.S.S.M - Flux.Boosted.Dual.Induction.Split.Spiral.Motor.
« Reply #254 on: December 16, 2010, 04:32:25 PM »
I have to chime in here and congratulate you too, Honk. Even though it didn't work as planned, that is really impressive workmanship. And, it still looks like it may be reconfigurable enough to try other experiments with without too much effort.

Best,
Z

 

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