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LarryC

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New HHO system in production for automobile.
« on: January 17, 2008, 11:32:46 PM »
Does anyone have experience with this guaranteed 50% increase in gas mileage using HHO system in autos? Check at link www.picctv.com/ps. Advertised in latest Popular Science.
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maxc

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2008, 03:36:31 PM »
I have a lot of confidence in it http://mpgresearch.com/viewtopic.php?t=2010. I plan to buy the HAFC. The most important part is tuning with the "optimizer". I plan to install them too. For 25 years I've been a certified auto tech. I understand how the computer has to be manipulated  senor's mods, ect. It seems that it resets the "relearn" for each drive cycle.
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Paul-R

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 03:54:18 PM »
Quote from: LarryC on January 17, 2008, 11:32:46 PM
Does anyone have experience with this guaranteed 50% increase in gas mileage using HHO system in autos? Check at link www.picctv.com/ps. Advertised in latest Popular Science.
50 to 70 litres per hour? The Smack's booster will give 100LPH
and costs very little to build yourself.
Paul.
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maxc

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 04:17:30 PM »
I know it's expensive. Maybe you can get a kit without the HHO cell? Your paying for the engineering of the optimizer and all the other componets to make it bolt on. There cell can be frozen and it will not damage it.
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Eodtek32

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 05:16:50 PM »
I have just watched both of the videos and the guy in it is quite a salesman.  I detected a bit of BS when he was describing some of the "scientific" stuff.  I am curious to see exactly how much they are going to charge for this equipment as well as their certified technician as required as part of their guarantee of at least 50% increase in MPG.

The electronics package is nothing special.  Although it is "patented" I have seen several presented on youtube and other forums.  It does not teach or re-learn your existing vehicle PCM.  All it does is provide various inputs to your existing PCM so that it, the PCM, thinks the vehicle is running rich and thereby reduces the impulses to the fuel injector(s) reducing the amount of fuel delivered to the intake, etc.

I am curious about the application of magnets to the fuel line and the preheating of the fuel.  Does anyone have any information?

Eodtek32
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Paul-R

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 04:06:23 PM »
Here is a support site for  the Smack's booster mentioned above:
http://smacksboosters.110mb.com/

...and underneath a link to the main pdf document which
describes how to make it for a few quid.
Paul.
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ampetti

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 12:04:01 AM »
I have looked up the guy that represents the company on Google, He seems to be quite the scam artist, he's been around a while, many different scams.  Beware!!
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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 12:14:22 AM »
When I see a system that includes passing your gasoline through a bunch of magnets, I start smelling snake oil.
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hartiberlin

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 04:58:39 AM »
Quote from: ampetti on January 31, 2008, 12:04:01 AM
I have looked up the guy that represents the company on Google, He seems to be quite the scam artist, he's been around a while, many different scams.  Beware!!

Do you mean Dennis Lee or the other guy in the video with the grey hair ?

Okay, as I see Dennis Lee,
he is always looking for new technology out there as his hummingbird motor-generator combination
probably was not overunity...
So maybe he is now trying to get on board to sell the PICC vapourizer ?

Has anybody of you already bought such a PICC vapourizer and installed it in your car ?

The video makes much sense, although they mostly show a modified GEET system
at the beginning.

How expensive is such a PICC vapourizer with the
oxygen sensor changer circuit ?

Did not see that on their page.

Regards, Stefan.
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CAM

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 11:23:39 PM »
How much HHO gas in volume can you get from a jam-jar of water ?

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CAM

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 11:48:51 PM »
Found the answer. But have new question.


 VERY LITTLE WATER is needed...
1 quart/1 Litre of water (see photo) may last for MONTHS of driving. How come? That's because this small device forces each Gallon of water to expand into gigantic proportions: 1833 Gallons of combustible gas!!!

Here's the best-kept secret the energy lords have been keeping from you about Hydrogen-On-Demand:
WHY COMPRESS HYDROGEN IN DANGEROUS HIGH-PRESSURE TANKS WHEN IT IS ALREADY "COMPRESSED" IN PLAIN WATER - AND CAN BE EASILY AND SAFELY RELEASED??!

Question.
1833 Gallons of combustible gas
Were the gas go if You boil that same one litre of water ?
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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 11:50:52 PM »
Dennis Lee has been marketing this for a while.  It's basically a Pantone design. They don't have the product yet but they just want to sell you a $1,000 water electrolysis system for now. I sent a request for quote long time ago and never received any response.
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maxc

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2008, 04:42:57 PM »
I was quoted 2500USD for my 1997 F150 PICC. I order my HAFC. I need the  electronic controller (O2ptomizer)  in my HAFC kit for both systems to work. The "O2ptomizer" is not sold separately.
Call them up if you didn't get your est.yet.
I'm still working on my own vaporizer. But my special water injection system is the first priority.
Mark
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hanker886

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 06:20:34 PM »
maxc,

Another problem is their design is to replace original catalyst converter. it will be deemed illegal if you try to remove the C converter. We have tried to replicate GEET here. It didn't work as expected. not sure if we got it right.

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maxc

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Re: New HHO system in production for automobile.
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2008, 01:28:35 AM »
Someone installed one on there F150.  http://majornews.com/modules/wordpress
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