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CLaNZeR

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EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« on: September 27, 2008, 07:37:40 PM »
Here we go again, another YouTube  ;D

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gSu_Fyk3SQs


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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 07:51:44 PM »
Just send hem an email to come on here.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 08:49:36 PM »
Nice finding, any clue how its made?

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 09:02:39 PM »
I was just "talking" to him on msn messenger. Since he doesn't speak english I had to run everything through Google translate.

What I understand so far is that the ring is just a regular ring magnet you find in a speaker. And using magnetic repulsion I think rotation is achieved. He also mentioned something of a vortex or spiral staircase or something, I assume this has something to do with the ring magnetic field.

I'm trying to encourage him to make more drawings and videos. He will probably also show up here but like I said he only speaks Spanish so it can become difficult.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 09:54:11 PM »
I was just "talking" to him on msn messenger. Since he doesn't speak english I had to run everything through Google translate.

What I understand so far is that the ring is just a regular ring magnet you find in a speaker. And using magnetic repulsion I think rotation is achieved. He also mentioned something of a vortex or spiral staircase or something, I assume this has something to do with the ring magnetic field.

I'm trying to encourage him to make more drawings and videos. He will probably also show up here but like I said he only speaks Spanish so it can become difficult.

Good stuff Broli

Lets hope he comes up with more info, the video and the blanket gloves make me think it is more of a hoax, but we shall see!


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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 09:55:32 PM »

Near the end when he takes one hand off, his other hand wavers altering the alignment of the field...only the spinning member did not react in accordance.

To me, it appears as if he may have been operating some type of brake or switching mechanism with his foot.

I am automatically suspicious when I saw the gloves??

And the pliers as a hammer barely striking the nail looked unnatural...it was as if he was pushing through a thin barrier into a hollow receiving axle on the other side.

Regards...


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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 10:03:42 PM »
Oke after a very rigorous discussion with him (at least my Spanish got better). I managed to get him to know better and I have pictures that will clarify pretty much the whole design.

As you an see from the pictures the ring consists of magnets slightly laying on top of the previous one to create an angle. The rotor magnets also seems angled. I think this is what he meant with the vortex talk. He was also talking about a more "modern" build he was apparently working on. And lots of talk about free energy,free ideas, oil addictions and so on  :P

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 10:17:11 PM »
It's good to have a Chilean One (whose main languaje is Spanish) around, isn't it? ;)

I am contacting him now to ask more details and encourage him to come here.

Regards.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 10:19:44 PM »
It's good to have a Chilean One (whose main languaje is Spanish) around, isn't it? ;)

I am contacting him now to ask more details and encourage him to come here.

Regards.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 10:27:01 PM »
It's good to have a Chilean One (whose main languaje is Spanish) around, isn't it? ;)

I am contacting him now to ask more details and encourage him to come here.

Regards.

Hey Chilean!

Nice to see you still active, please let us know what he says.

@Broli , excellent stuff mate :)

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 10:32:13 PM »
Where did the a2.jpg picture come from?  Are these graphics from this guy?

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 10:35:12 PM »
Hey Chilean!

Nice to see you still active, please let us know what he says.

@Broli , excellent stuff mate :)

Cheers

Sean.



Don't worry, as soon as I get some answer from him I will report, anyway, Broli already made a very good interview with him, as I can see, but somehow I think this kind of ideas have been tested to saciety  and ae known to be a dead end, or I am wrong?

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 10:35:41 PM »

I hope it works...but he must get his HAND away from it's operational parts!

:S:MSCoffman

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 10:41:32 PM »
If, the magnets are creating a Howard Johnson track being laid "partially" on top of each other, then I can see how this scheme might work.   ???
This can or would short out the magnetic spins and create a directional field reactions on the rotor.   :-\

More.. info... please....

Good stuff.....

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2008, 12:56:59 AM »
Hi Everyone,

This is a very interesting design, though I must admit that I have simulated and even built several similar magnet motor prototypes that didn't work. There are several animations of motors that look almost exactly like this one on Eric Vogels' website here:

http://www.fdp.nu/animations/

Dan is right. If this motor is the real deal, it definitely works on the 90 degree gating or "spin canceling" effect that Howard Johnson talked about. For those of you who aren't familiar with it, here's a few pages from his book "Discovering Magnetism" which shows some examples of the spin domains of magnets: (Open the image alone in a new window/tab to see it at full size)

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Discovering%20Magnetism/Pg03.jpg)
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(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Discovering%20Magnetism/Pg07.jpg)
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(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Discovering%20Magnetism/Pg21.jpg)
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(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Discovering%20Magnetism/Pg22.jpg)
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Also, here's a photo of one prototype I made a few years ago that is similar (not entirely) but the rotor and stator magnets are inverted, and the critical overlap of the magnets wasn't used (which is probably why it didn't work).

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Magnet%20Motor%20Pictures/Picture042.jpg)

This design definitely looks ridiculously simple enough to replicate though I was slightly concerned by the fact that he was kicking the rotor magnet around with his finger several times to restart it. The other problem is that he is holding the ring in his hands while the rotor magnets spin. In order for it to be a valid test, the stator ring needs to be mounted to a rigid stand so that we can rule out his minute hand movements as a possible energy input to the device. Otherwise, this may just be a glorified version of the Hamel spinner.

God Bless,
Jason O