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Author Topic: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.  (Read 312179 times)

peterpierre

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #330 on: March 29, 2010, 05:02:57 PM »
Hmmm ... no more questions? :)

sushimoto

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #331 on: March 30, 2010, 12:31:29 PM »
For the time being - I am. Why?

I'm just wondering if you know about the activities at the
german fraction of this site:
http://www.overunity.de/index.php?topic=531
maybe you want to snap in with a chance to meet people physically
in order to get along with the S.M projekt.

Hmmm ... no more questions? :)

Are you familiar with the "meissner circuit" ?
seems to be a easy way to set up an self adjusting LCR without
all that spooky S.Meyer-stuff.

cheers,
sushi

PS:FYI:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1PfmTheFM

peterpierre

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #332 on: March 30, 2010, 11:45:49 PM »
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I'm just wondering if you know about the activities at the
german fraction of this site:
http://www.overunity.de/index.php?topic=531
maybe you want to snap in with a chance to meet people physically
in order to get along with the S.M projekt.

No I do not, the only people I ever collaborated with in Germany are two select people, one scientist with approx 35 years of insight about the behavior of water and natural energy phenomena and one Electronics Engineer, both are well over my own age but circumstances did let us bounce into one another so we stuck with it, guess it was meant to be this way. I myself hasve been at this matter since 2003 (on and off at times but never gave up) and I take this matter quite seriously, I do not base my findings and or assuptions on any official laws of physics or scientific findings because this would be foolish to do in this matter - if any conventional science would have explained this and/or were useful in any way we already would have had free energy solutions a long time ago. The other two (who most definitely already do know the final answers to the matter already) do not do really anything for me, they speak in riddles, give pointers and make me think "outside the box" and I do appreciate that so there are no clear cut step by step instructions given to me, I work one step at the time. When I know you all will know, am not interested in having busted my ass for 7 years to succeed just for someone to come along and kill me and it all getting lost again.

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Are you familiar with the "meissner circuit" ?
seems to be a easy way to set up an self adjusting LCR without
all that spooky S.Meyer-stuff.

To date I am not certain I would call Stan Meyers findings "spooky". I understand now a whole lot more than I did 2 years ago about the process and most of what my understandings are you already know. It is rather something that I guess Science left out by mistake ... or much more likely - on purpose. The only spooky thing about the matters about Stan Meyer I think is the circumstances of his demise and at this point I will gladly leave it at that - the rest is science at it's best.

Note to Sushi: I did indeed look (just now) at the german thread, they are discussing Ravi and common electrolysis, there is nothing even closely related to what I am doing except possibly the fact that the circuit for pulsing I had custom built is based partially on stan meyer and partially on lawton (of course with quite different specs since the voltage I have is 50 times higher than the average 12V used in common electrolysis experiments and it would fry a standard Lawton circuit)
« Last Edit: March 31, 2010, 06:20:44 AM by peterpierre »

haithar

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #333 on: March 31, 2010, 02:33:14 PM »
I'm just wondering if you know about the activities at the
german fraction of this site:
http://www.overunity.de/index.php?topic=531
maybe you want to snap in with a chance to meet people physically
in order to get along with the S.M projekt.

Are you familiar with the "meissner circuit" ?
seems to be a easy way to set up an self adjusting LCR without
all that spooky S.Meyer-stuff.

cheers,
sushi

PS:FYI:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1PfmTheFM
A Meissner circuit or a similar circuit work fine for ac resonance, but keep in mind that we are looking for pulsed dc. And since there is a blocking diode the circuit won't resonate at all with a good capacitor. The cap would be charged once and then no more current would flow.

The video at the end looks like he did a parallel resonant ac circuit, i think that because
1. he mentions that at resonance the power draw is at minimum
2. the circuit scheme on the website shows a meissner parallel resonance circuit
So he is using current not high voltage. Parallel resonance will have a superelevated current at cap and coil, not voltage.
His production isn't the greatest for 15W, but it's hard to tell from just bubbles how much he is producing.

sushimoto

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #334 on: March 31, 2010, 03:48:15 PM »
Experimenters are always mixing "pulsed DC" and AC
as well as they are mixing conventional electrolysis with the
very basic principle of isolated electrodes aka "WaterCapacitor".
Its almost impossible to tune a hho-cell into resonance and it is
senseless to use "conditioned, coated" Elektrodes for bruteforce electrolysis.

in the lack of distinction lies a major problem of understanding.

Look at this fellow "Guru2You" (using DC BTW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8YQ6HUwbU&feature=channel

... still implying to use a HHO-cell instead of using an isolated WaterCapacitor.
@__@

haithar

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #335 on: March 31, 2010, 04:48:27 PM »
i fully agree with you.

peterpierre

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #336 on: March 31, 2010, 11:23:02 PM »
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Look at this fellow "Guru2You" (using DC BTW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8YQ6HUwbU&feature=channel

This circuit shows merit and might prove to be quite useful, however the rest of the info is wrong. DC is also the RIGHT ANSWER ... AC is definitely wrong.

Common guys we can do better than that ... the first youtube video calls it high voltage when you use 52 Volts and non-isolated electrodes ... the second video shows a really good concept however based on 12V circuit ... but that does not really worry me, that can be adapted, just as it was possible to adapt Dave Lawtons circuit to switch up to 1000V DC instead of just 12V DC (how long will it take for you to understand that this has really nothing to do with amps ... just voltage?)... so now we should walk the thin threaded center line and combine all those different views and opinions and we are finally done and over with the work. God ( I am non-religious) I am fucking tired of this shit  and the concept of right and wrong ... let the ones who believe worry about it.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2010, 12:20:06 AM by peterpierre »

HeairBear

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #337 on: April 01, 2010, 12:51:20 AM »
Who's "We"? You got a turd in your pocket?

peterpierre

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #338 on: April 01, 2010, 01:05:29 AM »
Who is we? ... turd? ... who crapped or peed in ur cerial this morning? Dude, in case u have not noticed, it is not just u and/or me been working on this. Still think 'we' is inappropriate? Well, maybe u should work on ur own then, since u seem to be so superior to anyone else here. Another matter ... would I be here if this whole thing was all about me? ... probably not but I leave you the benefit of the doubt. What's wrong with you man? Didn't get laid last night? Time to get some panocha and enjoy bro ... stop crapping on people just because u feel as a lesser entity. I do value your comments and views, never discredited them (on purpose) you do have a good head on your shoulders and you are not stupid at all, but would you mind just to let us move on with this because thats all we have left? We know you are so superior and allmighty because you are an US citizen and the rest of the world is crap to you, but according to your own constitution, arent we allowed to have a fair chance to give it a shot too, or did u just get frightened about what might happen or much closer as to what is happening right now? We do value yozu as a friend and a member of this thread, and as a member who has made comments and remarks of improvement, but u have to get over ur American attitude dude, else noone's gonna wanna work with u man ... deal with it.

HeairBear

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #339 on: April 01, 2010, 01:30:41 AM »
My attitude towards you is not because of my US citizenship. It's because of your bad taste in words and comments towards others that make you look altruistic. "We can do better" should be "I can do better". It's not up to us to do better for you, besides, we are doing better, you just haven't asked or bothered to look.

peterpierre

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #340 on: April 01, 2010, 01:48:58 AM »
Is that so, Mr. HeairBear? Well, then I am surpirised not to be seeing ur likeness and/or achivement on national TV ...  dude, get real. This is definitely not the job of a crowd that continuously keeps on disgreeing ... WTF is the problem in this picture? (sorry, I will not trying to analyze this ... I really dun have the time to spare)
« Last Edit: April 01, 2010, 10:25:17 AM by peterpierre »

HeairBear

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #341 on: April 01, 2010, 02:48:44 AM »
WOW! creepy!

peterpierre

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #342 on: October 28, 2010, 03:24:54 PM »
Another kind of odd (but useful - for me) finding in regards to water. I got busy going into the fine details of the process and kind of by accident discovered, that the moment one applies current (example current 5 Amps) to water even for the briefest moment, the resistance of the water shoots up in the unmeasurable resistance (over 100 Mega Ohm) ... you have to let it sit for a long time (by long I mean very long ... hours) until it comes down into a measurable range and then still drops resistance painfully slow - this could be very beneficial. At first I thought this to be the water temperature thats causing it, but I was wrong (I emptied the cell entirely and refilled it with clean and cold tap water, the resistance did not go down by me doing so) ... it seems to have something to do with the actual charge that gets stored somehow on a molecular or even atomic level, kind of like a 'fail safe' almost .... *ponder ... thinking thats interesting*

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #343 on: January 26, 2011, 07:50:04 AM »
Hello PeterPierre (and all),

I know this thread is a few months old already... but I just read through it all and was wondering if we could continue (or point me to a more recent thread if there is one on this topic).

Your explanations have helped me a lot in understanding the difference between electrolysis and capacitive resonance. In particular, your point about insulating the electrode in order to build up the capacitance of the cell. That was a big eye-opener for me!

I'll wait to see if anyone is still interested in this topic before posting more about my experimental findings...

Cheers,
Thierry

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Re: HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.
« Reply #344 on: January 29, 2011, 03:10:06 AM »
Idea for an electrode insulator (plates/tubes/coils):
Epoxy resin mixed with acetone to thin it enough to make a bath.

Any activity on this thread? Any interest or am I wasting my time? C'mon guys... it's hardly the time to give  up :))