http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iACqjSSINA

here is a wimhurst model, sold by images SI inc.


how how is enough voltage/amperage,
to create ONE INCH LONG LIGHTNING SPARKS,
being generated by mere HAND MOVEMENT


some people get 3 inch long lightning sparks, on theirs.......

@nitinnun ,
Perhaps no one talks about Wimshurst machines because they usually put out microamps or less. Do you have any links for the one that puts out 10amps at 300volts?
-Steve
http://rimstar.org  http://wsminfo.org

VII. GENERATOR UNIT (Self-sustaining Type)

h) Swiss M-L Converter
The Swiss M-L converter is a fully symmetrical, influence-type energy converter, which is essentially based on the Wimhurst electrostatic generator with its twin, matched counter-rotating discs.

It is apparent that this unit design has been substantially upgraded over the old Wimhurst electrostatic generators, but still has the characteristic metallic foil sectors which both generate and carry small charges of electricity to be stored in matched capacitors.

Each sector accumulates the charges derived by influence with the other sectors.

In the old Wimhurst units diagonal neutralizing brushes on each opposite disc distribute the correct charges to the sectors as they revolve, but in this new M-L converter this function is accomplished by a crystal diode at higher efficienciesthan the older design.

Two collection brushes collect the accumulating charges and conduct them to the storage capacitor, located at the top of this new design.

Unlike the old Wimhurst design, this new converter utilizes several new and improved features such as two horseshoe magnets with coils, and a hollow cylindrical magnet as a part of the diode function, and two Leyden jars or flasks, which apparently serve as the final capacitor function for the converter.

It becomes apparent that this new converter susbtantially increases the current (amperage) flow with the addition of the coil and magnets combination, as in the Coler solid-state devices.

The use of top grade components, such as goldplated contacts, control electrodes and dual capacitor stages insure much higher conversion efficiences than was possible with the old Wimhurst machines.

The general specification for the operating prototype are:

1) Efficiency: 1:106, due to self-sustained operation. The unit is started by hand revolving, with no other input power source required!!

2) Constant Power Output: 300 volts @ 10 Amperes = 3KW.

3) Dimensions: 43.31" wide, 17.72" deep, 23.62" high

4) Weight: 44 Lbs. Operating speed 60rpm.



VII. GENERATOR UNIT (Self-sustaining Type)

Analysis of the Swiss M-L Converter, with multiple electrical circuits.
It is evident that this excellent o/u/o Converter unit is based on the Winshurst electrostatic generator which utilizes

It is evident that this excellent o/u/o Converter unit is based on the Wimshurst electrostatic generator which utilizes multiple steel segments.

These Wimshurst E/S generators are made with either steel or aluminum segements, with
the aluminum segments being true electrostatic elements.

When steel segments are used on the twin discs of this unit, the Searl Effect is in evidence, with E/M conversion made at the rim/periphery of the discs through passive electromagnets.

This unique o/u/o unit becomes an ideal converter since both high voltage A.C. and moderate A.C. amperage can be simultaneously generated through two separate electrical circuits from the discs.

The twin disc's conventional conductive brushes pick-off the high voltage A.C, while the rim electromagnet's coils produce a useful E.M.F. (useful amperage level).

When permanent horseshoe magnets with coils are utilized, as in this present Swiss unit, then the
E.M.F. output is enhanced to a considerable extent, as is evident in the specs, for this M-L unit.

The self-propulsion, after hand starting, is achieved through the adaptation of the Poggendorff principle (a German scientist of the 1870's) in which slanted conductive brushes produce self-rotation in electrostatic motors, (not generators).

In regard to the special crystal diode module, this component most probably provides the dual functions of frequency regulation and capacitance amplifier — to the two Leyden jars.

This special diode-capacitor provides frequency output regulation and capacitance amplification as part of the electrical resonance circuit, since it is connected with the horseshoe magnet coils.


This unit is essentially comprised of three separate electrical circuits, which are:

1) The high voltage A.C. output from the twin discs as a conventional Wimshurst electrostatic generator.

2) A moderate A.C. amperage circuit produced by the dual horseshow magnet coils (Searl Effect) as the plus and
minus discs pass by them. (Pulsed D.C. output at 50 Hz.)

3) A rsonance circuit in which the horseshoe magnet coils are connected to the diode capacitor so that frequency regulation is assured. The diode capacitor is then connected to the Leyden jar, transmitter unit.


The major physical principles involved in this outstanding composite unit are:

1) Electrostatic conversion using twin discs for positive output from one, and negative output from the other.

2) The evidence of the "Searl Effect" from the use of multiple, identical steel segments inducing an E.M.F. electromagnets at the discs periphery (rim).

3) The Ecklin principle is also in evidence, since the steel segments pass by permanent horseshow magnets, as in Ecklin's S.A.G. units.

4) The Poggendorff self-rotating electrostatic motor principle, as described above.

5) The crystal capacitance function of the crystal diode module.

The full operation of this unique component, with its hollow cylindrical permanent magnet, is a composite component with the dual functions, as described above.


The Swiss M-L Converter, — "A Masterpiece of Craftsmanship and Electronic Engineering".
Members of the G. A.G.F.E. have inspected this Swiss system on five different occasions from 1984 to the present.

There are two small units and this presently described larger unit located in a commune near Bern, Switzerland.

This machine and the two smaller units have been running on and off since 1982.

The larger machine produces 3 to 4 KW at 230 volts D.C, and apparently extracts energy from the gravity stressing field, and there is no primary propulsion of any kind.

This type of gravity energy field converter confirms perfectly the Bearden and Nieper model of the tachyon field.

This is especially true for the considering of charge and mass of the electron to be separate.

The converter runs continuously by itself, with only rotating wear parts being the two ball bearings at the center of the two discs.

The M-L Converter is functionally constructed, completely symmetrical with the two discs made of acrylic plastic, a light metal lattice, insulated copper wires, a secret crystal-diode rectifier, and gold-plated electrical connections.

Everything is hand-made with the finest craftmanship, with an elegant beauty.

The operating principle has been known for a long time, and these machines have been developed over a twenty year time span.

In electrostatic generators, the air molecules between the two acrylic discs which closely counter-rotate, side by side, become electrically activated by friction.

This causes the discs to be continually charged, until a flashover equalizes them.

To limit the electrical voltage to a desired amount, the positive charged particles on one of the counterrotating discs and the negative charged particles on the other disc are each extracted by means of separately adjustable latticeelectrodes, and are fed into a Leyden jar which collects the energy.

The speed of the discs, on which a fan-like structure of 50 lattice electrodes are etched out, is 60 rpm.

(It is obvious that this discrete ratio of lattice/segments and speed will produce a 50 Hertz, pulsed D.C. output.)

This speed is synchronized by magnetic impulses.



The unit is hand started by revolving the two discs in opposite directions, until the converter was charged up to such a degree that it synchronized itself and continued to rotate smoothly and noiselessly, without any input source of power.

A centrally mounted disc of about 4 inches in diameter was glimmering in all the colors of the rainbow.

After only a few seconds the Leyden jars were ready for operation, so that 300 volts D.C., with a current of 10 amperes could be extracted at the terminals, and this could be done continuously for hours, or for years, without any wear!

To demonstrate the power available, connections were made to both, alternately, a high power incandescent lamp or a heating element, each of which was rated at 380 volt service.

The brilliant light from the lamp was blinding, and completely illuminated the hall to the furthest corner. The heating element became so hot, after a few seconds, that it could not be touched.

This experience was certainly a look into the future for all of us, and the start of a new era!

It became evident for everybody who saw this converter functioning, that the teachings of orthodox science must undergo a complete revision in order to be taken seriously.

(The fundamental law of physics, according to Robert Mayer of 1842, is "The sum of all energy forms is constant.")

Today there are already dozens of known violations of the orthodox energy laws.

This project work represents international science at work, in it finest form, which will become the wave of the future!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iACqjSSINA

here is a wimhurst model, sold by images SI inc.


how how is enough voltage/amperage,
to create ONE INCH LONG LIGHTNING SPARKS,
being generated by mere HAND MOVEMENT


some people get 3 inch long lightning sparks, on theirs.......

Wimpy!

Take a look at one of mine:
(this one's running on DC motors but could just as easily be hand-cranked.)
The left-hand sphere is 5.5 inches (140 mm) diameter.
This is a 15-second exposure, and I counted 13 sparks in that time.
The blur on the right is a pvc rod I use to "perturb" the field to initiate the longest sparks. Close the gap a few mm and the rod isn't needed to initiate sparks.

Strictly speaking, this is a Bonetti aka sectorless Wimshurst. The sectors and sharp edges of the conventional Wimshurst machine severely limit the voltage that can be obtained. The current is proportional to the rotational speed of the disks.

Note the corona distribution.

I would just like to point out that Kelly's description of how a Wimshurst machine works is flawed. If the Testatika is based on the Wimshurst machine, and is an electrostatic machine, then it is important, I think, to get the basics right.

Current output of these electrostatic machines is determined by the rotational speed, all other factors being held constant. That being said, machines with a lot of sharp edges and screens and hardware, will waste a lot of current at high voltages by blowing charge off as corona.
In addition, the 2 disks of a Wimshurst or Bonetti machine are not oppositely charged, nor do the machines produce AC current (except during a cap discharge, of course.) The neutralising combs do not distribute charge to the sectors as Kelly says but rather allow opposite charges to cancel, or neutralize, thus leaving regions of the disk with excess charge. The oppositely charged regions of the disks, moving past each other, act as electrostatic inductors.
To achieve maximum power from these machines, clean smooth design is very important, and proper spacing and insulation of components is critical.

These reasons make me suspect that the Methernitha Testatika may not, in fact, be very much like an electrostatic Wimshurst machine after all.

Yes, the basic structure of the Testatika does "look like" a Wimshurst machine. But this may be a red herring. Certainly the Testatika device is not optimized for the electrostatic generation of high voltages or currents.
I'm not saying it isn't, for sure, but what I am saying is that the machine violates many principles of good high-voltage design (and I'm not talking a few kilovolts here; my machine in the picture is producing at least 200,000 volts and on a good day may reach 500,000 volts).
Certainly the many Wimshurst machine designs that are made with sectors on the disks, contact brushes, and many projecting parts and low-dielectric materials, can produce nothing like these voltages or currents. The Wimshurst in the video makes a 75 mm spark every 3 or 4 seconds, and that's pretty typical for a tabletop Wimshurst with 10-inch disks. My machine makes a 200 mm spark nearly once per second--and it has NO contact brushes, only corona brushes.
The electrostatic machine at the heart of the Testatika, if it is such, would only be capable of a small output, because its voltage would be severely limited by all the sharp edges, points, sectors, and contact brushes. Plus, Baumann's own description of the workings of the machine indicate that, even if it is a static machine, it must work on completely different principles than the Wimshurst or Bonetti machines. Baumann says one disk is Cloud and one is Earth, for example, which implies that the disks have opposite polarities. This is not the case for Wimshurst or Bonetti machines. And so forth.

if you needed more amperage,
you could even connect many small wimhursts together, in parallel.

stacking their amperage.


i have been thinking about how to build a flat, wide, ring shaped DC motor.
the flatter i could build it, the more small wimhursts could be stacked.

to combine their amperage.