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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16600693 times)

energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11670 on: May 23, 2012, 09:11:52 AM »
Tesla wrote:  "The first of these central plants would have been already completed had it not been for unforeseen delays which, fortunately, have nothing to do with its purely technical features.  But this loss of time, while vexatious, may, after all, prove to be a blessing in disguise.  The best design of which I know has been adopted, and the transmitter will emit a wave complex of total maximum activity of ten million horse-power, one per cent. of which is amply sufficient to "girdle the globe." This enormous rate of energy delivery, approximately twice that of the combined falls of Niagara, is obtainable only by the use of certain artifices, which I shall make known in due course." 
 

from what source did you get this from?
please share a link to it..
Thank you

forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11671 on: May 23, 2012, 11:52:28 AM »
nice talk about frequencies  8)
remember what Steven Mark said : you can have two currents flowing independently in one wire , like large current low voltage and tiny current high voltage
look for Tesla lecture about disruptive discharge
it should be taught in schools from 1919  ::)  or do we assume that also Alfred Hubbard was a genius boy ? how old was he in 1919 ? who told him about electricity ? maybe Tesla ? he had bussiness relationships in Pittsburg


sparks,nice to see you are still interested.....

jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11672 on: May 23, 2012, 02:29:55 PM »



 And I thought I read everything on Tesla. Yes Yes please give details where did you get that gem sparks?

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« Reply #11673 on: May 23, 2012, 03:10:35 PM »
nice talk about frequencies  8)
remember what Steven Mark said : you can have two currents flowing independently in one wire , like large current low voltage and tiny current high voltage
look for Tesla lecture about disruptive discharge
it should be taught in schools from 1919  ::)  or do we assume that also Alfred Hubbard was a genius boy ? how old was he in 1919 ? who told him about electricity ? maybe Tesla ? he had bussiness relationships in Pittsburg


sparks,nice to see you are still interested.....


 Yeah it's like the tv and fan thing I suggested. The frequency of the tv is 60cycles and the frequency of the fan is 1500 rpm. But when you put them together it makes the fan look like it is only 10 rpm in the opposite direction the fan is moving. In a fluidic environment I bet that would be pretty interesting. Waves can propagate either way or in both directions as well.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11674 on: May 23, 2012, 05:14:55 PM »
@verpies
In regards to yoke device you need to understand NMR conditioning process. It is not possible to make 1:1 copy. We shared much as we could.
There are also already different patents on subject I mentioned in another post and ours is close to them: 2 main frequencies, one is magnetizing, another is core material resonant and magnetizing frequency governs transformation method. Simple as that for this process and even for making Tesla ball lightning... It is only one root principle.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11675 on: May 23, 2012, 06:39:25 PM »
Lets start looking at how Tesla saw everything.


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« Reply #11677 on: May 23, 2012, 09:51:54 PM »
Hi,
Text in the Tesla document Tariel K. holding in the hand at the end of “green box” demonstration:
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I have been asked by the ELECTRICAL EXPERIMENTER to be quite explicit on this subject so that my young friends among the readers of the magazine will clearly understand the construction and operation of my "Magnifying Transmitter" and the purposes for which it is intended. Well, then, in the first place, it is a resonant transformer with a secondary in which the parts, charged to a high potential, are of considerable area and arranged in space along ideal enveloping surfaces of very large radii of curvature, and at proper distances from one another thereby insuring a small electric surface density everywhere so that no leak can occur even if the conductor is bare. It is suitable for any frequency, from a few to many thousands of cycles per second, and can be used in the production of currents of tremendous volume and moderate pressure, or of smaller amperage and immense electromotive force. The maximum electric tension is merely dependent on the curvature of the surfaces on which the charged elements are situated and the area of the latter.
"Judging from my past experience, as much as 100,000,000 volts are perfectly practicable. On the other hand currents of many thousands of amperes may be obtained in the antenna. A plant of but very moderate dimensions is required for such performances. Theoretically, a terminal of less than 90 feet in diameter is sufficient to develop an electromotive force of that magnitude while for antenna currents of from 2,000-4,000 amperes at the usual frequencies it need not be larger than 30 feet in diameter. (TK scaled down to 100kW and 5kW)
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Ps. Tesla mention earlier in the document that it was not thin wire secondary and it was not many turns not close wounded.

Since we entering a circle from the beginning one more time I would like to share some good historical documentation (apologize to those which studded this long time ago)

http://www.kathodos.com/teslasaid.pdf

Download link seams very slow but is worth waiting if you did not read it before, at least little bit from page 46

Xd.



verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11679 on: May 24, 2012, 01:27:47 AM »

Did the Yoke device, made by your hands, work with <10W of input power and >20W of output power?
Yes, you share more details than others.
However, you don't share everything needed for replication.  For example, see the missing red info in these replication instructions,  - for instance in pt.8.

@verpies
In regards to yoke device you need to understand NMR conditioning process. It is not possible to make 1:1 copy. We shared much as we could.
There are also already different patents on subject I mentioned in another post and ours is close to them: 2 main frequencies, one is magnetizing, another is core material resonant and magnetizing frequency governs transformation method. Simple as that for this process and even for making Tesla ball lightning... It is only one root principle.
I still haven't gotten a direct answer to my question and pt.8 still remains unclarified :(

Also, what is your physical evidence that the NMR phenomenon or Fe isotope transmutation was even happening in the Yoke device ?   Contents of third-party patents do not constitute such evidence and alternative explanations also exist.

sparks

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11680 on: May 24, 2012, 02:58:53 AM »
from what source did you get this from?
please share a link to it..
Thank you
Link is here.  http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1904-03-05.htm
Tesla is not claiming energy from no where.  I believe his wireless transmission of power system would be producing standing waves.  The maximum wave activity could be millions of horsepower but the power drawn could never exceed the generator capacity.  The prime mover in the Wardenclyffe tower was a steam driven generator.  His analogy to the Earth being a water filled sphere.  His tower a piston pump and his receivers little piston motors.  As long as the little motors pistons are lifted without doing any work they fall back and pump water back to the tower pump.  This pressure is felt by the tower pump and the primemover feels no load conditions.  Now load the piston motor.  The piston at the transmitter feels this pressure.  That wave is damped.  Load all the little motors to the working capacity of the pump.  Those little motors arent going to move unless enough water is pumped from the transmitter to overcome the load.
   This was still a brilliant and worthy endeavour.  No fuel to lug around.  How much energy is wasted just delivering fuel to engines.  Lugging around 15 gallons of fuel in millions of vehicles never mind tankers, refineries, mining equipment you name it.  Solar radiation UV visible ir say 1hp per meter.  1 Square kilometer.  1 million horsepower.  Sun appears to be shining on some desert somewhere all the time.  Hell some tank farms are 1 square kilometer.  The alaskan pipeline alone could be collecting a couple of megawatts.
   

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« Reply #11681 on: May 24, 2012, 10:32:06 AM »
Hi all,in my view,TK is lying about the device needing a ground ,however it is needed to at least provide a theory of why it appears that current is coming from the ground.Current coming from a ground wire in the manner of the TK video's is impossible,in my opinion.So I did a few experiments,in the greenbox video,ac voltage readings were impossible to read,if pulses from the induced first coil are mixed with ac current source you have this effect.The type of clamp amp meter,used in the video's I believe plays a part in false current amp readings,I have a meter that is close to the meter in the video's that's used in the experiments along with a different meter that doesn't react to current errors.A point on the ac voltage reading,all digital voltmeters
will have an error reading the ac voltage under the same conditions of  induced
pulses.On the frequency measured in the greenbox video that's inconclusive,I did another experiment,the meter will read the pulse frequency not the line frequency
this should apply to the greenbox video.A video shows that when a current source is removed,a false reading on the current meter disappears,then reappears when the current source reappears,reinforcing the belief that current thru the bulb is related to the ground current reading.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11682 on: May 24, 2012, 11:41:54 AM »
A few days ago I posted the message below.
There is an interesting update in PJKBook on the Kapanadze coil on page 3-107:
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
"The main secret of the Kapanadze coil is the conductive ring placed within the coil.  This is in contradiction to standard thinking; a closed conductive ring in a coil would normally create a wasteful shunt rather than be a source of energy. It is hard to believe that this piece of physics has been known at least since Meyer's experiments (around 1975) but it is speculated that Tesla and later Hubbard knew this as well."
The more I read this article, the more I understand it, the more I think that Bill has it right. Bill’s approach is physics based. This article is going to break the deadlock. Read it again and again, both parts. It is really worth it. I like the second coil in particular.
yfree

Do you think the posters on this forum are in a deadlock?  What is the advantage of the physics based approach over what we have now?

Why do you agree with William J. McFreey that cyclotron orbit established via Lorentz deflection can be maintained in a solid object? 
Is it possible for fast moving charged particles to exist in solid objects, in which the space between densly packed nuclei (see Bremsstrahlung loss) is filled with dense electron clouds (see Møller scattering)?
Can the multiplication of fast moving charged particles occur in a solid object?
Do you think that Beta decay really can be stimulated in a solid object by NMR?
« Last Edit: May 24, 2012, 05:07:09 PM by verpies »

scratchrobot

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11683 on: May 24, 2012, 02:21:52 PM »
Hi,
Text in the Tesla document Tariel K. holding in the hand at the end of “green box” demonstration:
*******************************************************************************
I have been asked by the ELECTRICAL EXPERIMENTER to be quite explicit on this subject so that my young friends among the readers of the magazine will clearly understand the construction and operation of my "Magnifying Transmitter" and the purposes for which it is intended. Well, then, in the first place, it is a resonant transformer with a secondary in which the parts, charged to a high potential, are of considerable area and arranged in space along ideal enveloping surfaces of very large radii of curvature, and at proper distances from one another thereby insuring a small electric surface density everywhere so that no leak can occur even if the conductor is bare. It is suitable for any frequency, from a few to many thousands of cycles per second, and can be used in the production of currents of tremendous volume and moderate pressure, or of smaller amperage and immense electromotive force. The maximum electric tension is merely dependent on the curvature of the surfaces on which the charged elements are situated and the area of the latter.
"Judging from my past experience, as much as 100,000,000 volts are perfectly practicable. On the other hand currents of many thousands of amperes may be obtained in the antenna. A plant of but very moderate dimensions is required for such performances. Theoretically, a terminal of less than 90 feet in diameter is sufficient to develop an electromotive force of that magnitude while for antenna currents of from 2,000-4,000 amperes at the usual frequencies it need not be larger than 30 feet in diameter. (TK scaled down to 100kW and 5kW)
********************************************************************************
Ps. Tesla mention earlier in the document that it was not thin wire secondary and it was not many turns not close wounded.

Since we entering a circle from the beginning one more time I would like to share some good historical documentation (apologize to those which studded this long time ago)

http://www.kathodos.com/teslasaid.pdf

Download link seams very slow but is worth waiting if you did not read it before, at least little bit from page 46

Xd.

Thank you for the translation and document  :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #11684 on: May 24, 2012, 03:09:07 PM »

I still haven't gotten a direct answer to my question and pt.8 still remains unclarified :(

Also, what is your physical evidence that the NMR phenomenon or Fe isotope transmutation was even happening in the Yoke device ?   Contents of third-party patents do not constitute such evidence and alternative explanations also exist.

If you do not wish to sit down and just make own exeriment I canot help you. You have enough of clues what to look for and what to expect. It all comes down to simple practice instead of complex theory... :)
Please read http://www.overunity.com/4333/meyer-mace-isotopic-nmr-generator/msg320958/#msg320958 once again if you wish to actually reproduce effect in your lab.