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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406224 times)

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1605 on: May 07, 2010, 01:51:39 AM »
I spent some fun time at trying deciphering SR's circuitry as i see it. Being biased that it is an inverter setup, i consider it as a fact in case the transistors have the following pins. For NPN BCE and for PNP ECB.

Concening the transformer setup, i am a bit puzzled. It has one blue wire coming from one side, a red one from the other and two wires in the middle.
In such configuration, in all probability it has two windings, (since 4 wires total) that are possitioned one next to the other. (there is s a slight possibility that are wound one of top of the other but not likely)
 
Regarding the wires in the cavity, I can see 1-2-3 cables entering and the 0 ground. Respectively  and 3 cables going out and the ground. The red wire from the one end of the transformer is connected to common ground (1-2-3+red).
i can say with some confidence that one of the three wires entering the cavity is red wire's return (since ground wire is not connected to anything besides the common connection point - apart from radiator).

So we are left with a pair of wires of unknown function. According to common guestimates, it is the high voltage wire and its return. with the only difference it is not a winding around the core rather a small winding inside the core or no winding at all. A simple traveling wire inside the core.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1606 on: May 07, 2010, 08:28:00 AM »
@baroutologos: Your schematic looks similar to a circuit hartiberlin posted in Reply #1529, 83274927.jpg

The winding methods that are shown could help but i don't understand the language in harti's post.

Take care.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1607 on: May 07, 2010, 09:12:51 AM »
Yes it looks similar, but it is identical.

Mine depicts better the reality whereas, the other schematic it is not. It shows three windings, whereas only two can be seen, and the windings that ends in red wire and goes throught the cavity is wrong side thus adding misinterpreting wires' function (in the cavity).

In any way, still trying to experience an ellusive effect.
...

By the way, few days before i tried to conduct the SR's alleged experiment with the two transformer. One stepping down mains voltage and one stepping up. I applied HV source arching to the second output winding as well as to any winding including casing etc.
No claimed effects observed in any case.

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1608 on: May 07, 2010, 10:13:25 AM »
I was reviewing SR's first video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18oThcI4VnE&feature=player_embedded
concerning the below coil setup and its accompanied schematic...


I got back to the beginning of SR's videos. The PVC pipe with the weird winding and the lamp attached has something overally simple yet mind breaking to replicate.
Assuming that the video's sound is the real sound. (it seems to be) That means no Tesla cap discharge LC ringing, only the soft sound of a continuous arch.

Lets suppose that it is not genuine and you wanted to fool people. What could have done? In those short wires any hiden wire of mains voltage in attempt to light the bulb will end up to failure since the winding's resistance is far inferior to bulb's. Bulb seem of the 120v or 220v kind.

Cap discharge is not there by judjing from the sound... so? Even an invertor working on a feriite or iron core, that lamp could never be lit with average power levels. Only a Kacher resonant setup could do it, that is hidden inside the tube. But overal outline does not suggests so.

A real pain IMO.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1609 on: May 07, 2010, 03:38:23 PM »
I got back to the beginning of SR's videos. The PVC pipe with the weird winding and the lamp attached has something overally simple yet mind breaking to replicate.
Assuming that the video's sound is the real sound. (it seems to be) That means no Tesla cap discharge LC ringing, only the soft sound of a continuous arch.

Lets suppose that it is not genuine and you wanted to fool people. What could have done? In those short wires any hiden wire of mains voltage in attempt to light the bulb will end up to failure since the winding's resistance is far inferior to bulb's. Bulb seem of the 120v or 220v kind.

Cap discharge is not there by judjing from the sound... so? Even an invertor working on a feriite or iron core, that lamp could never be lit with average power levels. Only a Kacher resonant setup could do it, that is hidden inside the tube. But overal outline does not suggests so.

A real pain IMO.

I looked at that video too.
The only thing that i see going in there is the HV winding around the left half of it.
The rest is a bifilar series shorted with the monofilar right side.
There is 2 junction points where the whole thing is connected to a 3rd winding (?) on the very right side.
So you maybe right that this is a kacher effect rather than what he attempted later.

Your guesstimation of the transistor coil arrangement is also how i see it.
Still pondering about the blue coil though.
There is only one visible wire exiting the top left winding on the left side and leading inside the ferrite ring core. not sure for what purpose this top winding is.
 
« Last Edit: May 07, 2010, 04:51:32 PM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1610 on: May 07, 2010, 05:34:43 PM »
Investigating not published circuit is a nightmare. Better try to find the way it works.I think it is based on creating magnetic bias with low voltage but larger amperage and then using HV pulses as a switch to switch Bloch wall position in space. In effect magnetic field looks like moving around or pulsing with any required frequency.Now, you know that having weak magnetic field pulsing fast is the same as having large field pulsing slow , the difference is only required stage of frequency correction.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1611 on: May 07, 2010, 11:04:59 PM »
Today i reconstruct my setup so as to be fed by mains.

An 220/12 transformer with FWBR, smoothing cap and ammeter to the system was added. My 555 timer circuit does not work as intended 50Hz, and many fellow experimenters may confuse 555 malfunction by RF for a ganuine effect.

So i applied a small 220/9 volt transformer for pulsing the inverter transistor pair. several coils were tested. Inverter works nice and if a coil of 5mH + is applied a nice and strong pulsating field is produced.
A plier held on coil's core strikes the core like a small bell. I decided to remove ferrite core and audio wire coils and replace it by a long audio coil, that has laminated core.
This coil is intented for use till a couple of Khz, with few losses. Laminated are extra thin, 0.3mm and i can add or remove them so as to control core saturation level.

Two windings were wound on core. One 1mm enameled wire, 150 turns 0.25mH without any core, 2-2.5mh just with the addition of a couple thin laminates. (max laminates are 30) One receiving winding wound on top of it 160-170 turns, biffilar (for having the option of doubling it)

Inverter while running draws some 2 amps at 14volts. A lamp applied to the receiving winding barely lights. This inverter is quite lossy (pulsing a coil without any inverter setup is far more efficient)

...
For applying the rf signal, a 3 turns copper tubing was applied to enclose the coil. I refrained from wounding a large impedance coil for applying the RF sincce the large inductunce chokes all high frequencies.
I spent some time experimenting at adjusting ignition coil pulser, spark-gap distance (carbon electrodes) and the use of a ground so as to have max Rf noise. Rf noise was detected by a electrical tester screw driver with a neon bulb. Max brightness equals mas Rf noise.
I found out the application of ground at the correct side of spark-gap greatly enhances RF noise. This RF is diffused to the whole circuit, transistors, transformers etc.

I add-remove coils core laminates and played with spark-gap. No bulb's increase in brightness observed in any case so far.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1612 on: May 08, 2010, 11:04:46 AM »
News from Rusia
It sparks with/without source/ferrite.

http://next-energy.2x2forum.ru/forum-f1/tema-t10.htm#3778
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=455.300

 Re: Tariel Kapanadze and his "miracle generator"
by SOS-SOS Yesterday at 9:34 pm

All once again with the day
the radio. And the upcoming Victory Day, the day of the Great feat of our forefathers, and to whom, and
fathers. YAHOO! Comrades, for they are worthy of respect, they were able to understand about themselves
in difficult times. The times that we never dreamed of, when a person goes to the man with a weapon and
kills him staring at each other's eyes. And all because of what that sheep with sick
minds and a desire for omnipotent power. So let this lesson, for which our forefathers
sacrificed their lives will not be lost. In order to remember every person he knew
who he is and do not bend do not under any machinations evil.


I wish you all do not
be like such people, myself, in principle, too, the same. For it is the same
person as all of us and each of the at. Fed compounds the simplest
of atoms. Hydrogen and oxygen atoms forming water. And for constant
consumption mix a little more complicated. Our air ... As well as food ... The three
components ... simple, more complex and more difficult, and only in combination and in
dosed quantities with them we can live!


and energy,
it can be, but we must create the conditions, the conditions for its inception her life.


And I will say so,
people who understood how to achieve it - really brilliant. And if they
are any on this planet it is not just. You are given the chance, you
have the key to changing the history, the key to the new trend of development of our planet. And silly
having such capabilities and knowledge not to try to turn history. You are
thus the momentum with which runs your machine and then goes on
thumb while working on itself.


But to blame
mortal body, our organic spacesuit spiritual identity, which dictates the rules, the rules of the
territory, where we are. The territory of
planet Earth. That's just who these rules has created, and why we are afraid that their
break.


Let's look
at the sun. There are also the simplest atoms, but there is other processes. Hydrogen at a certain process is transformed into
helium. Thus gives us light and energy. And why, yes because there is no
man! "


So you and our
case there is no limit a source of energy, but the question is that he is in the hands of
man. And what gets people, it
automatically becomes a paid and elected, as follows our human
nature.


The only thing that
annoys is injustice. There are people (a personal friend) that your entire
life flashed this problem. The best of the worthiest. From
pre-school age began his path in this direction. Written not
a single scientific work still at school age. Have realized grandiose projects
at a paltry pittance in order to understand the issues and as luck would have it only flag in hand,
can still reel in the neck ... And these people are among us, in fact on the data
forums. And confusing. The point is that no work bearing fruit, but a banal case
of luck. And having that key people become conceited and starts dreskodit. Dreskodit And only in words, not really,
instead of what would give an impetus, the momentum is.


So ask as
a question, but rather feel like this wind, the wind of change and not brake
the movement.


all again with
the Great Victory Day and the Day of Radio, I hope that in the near future and
Day FREE energo, I hope that we will live to see this.




« Last Edit: May 08, 2010, 11:34:14 AM by fullbit »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1613 on: May 08, 2010, 11:41:44 AM »
Thank You for shared very important news from our forum, I just want to add some nice pic from dynatron, he is a guy who make self running device! 

Source: http://www.001-lab.com/


baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1614 on: May 08, 2010, 02:03:05 PM »
Hello guys, i have seen the excitement and diagrams but cannot understand what they are saying. Google translator sucks a bit.

Can anyone summurize what's the claimed progress is all about?

Thanks

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1615 on: May 08, 2010, 02:10:02 PM »
I was reading the russian forums and it sounds like a few others have already replicated and confirmed dynatrons success.

The following diodes were mentioned by dynatron: (I think!!??)

http://www.knfmp.ru/affin/class/138.html

have no idea about a lot of the other details, but im dying to give my polyprop capacitor a shot when ive managed to get the coil wound.

Looks like regular copper coil right?  2.5  mm2???

and i spose i can probably use the HV transformer from my T.Coil as a starting input?

I read 20 turns mentioned on one forum.  Is that 20 turns for each coil (making 40 in total) or ten in each making 20 in total?

I realise that you guys are probably also a little in the dark, but i'd welcome some speculations :)  I'll be trying whatever i can once i buy the diodes and (copper?) coil.

By the way - someone also mentioned making cuts/slots in the aluminium foil core.  dunno if this helps any experimenters....i bet Bart is already busy  ;D



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1617 on: May 08, 2010, 03:00:51 PM »
News from Rusia
It sparks with/without source/ferrite.

http://next-energy.2x2forum.ru/forum-f1/tema-t10.htm#3778
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=455.300

 Re: Tariel Kapanadze and his "miracle generator"
by SOS-SOS Yesterday at 9:34 pm

All once again with the day
the radio. And the upcoming Victory Day, the day of the Great feat of our forefathers, and to whom, and
fathers. YAHOO! Comrades, for they are worthy of respect, they were able to understand about themselves
in difficult times. The times that we never dreamed of, when a person goes to the man with a weapon and
kills him staring at each other's eyes. And all because of what that sheep with sick
minds and a desire for omnipotent power. So let this lesson, for which our forefathers
sacrificed their lives will not be lost. In order to remember every person he knew
who he is and do not bend do not under any machinations evil.


I wish you all do not
be like such people, myself, in principle, too, the same. For it is the same
person as all of us and each of the at. Fed compounds the simplest
of atoms. Hydrogen and oxygen atoms forming water. And for constant
consumption mix a little more complicated. Our air ... As well as food ... The three
components ... simple, more complex and more difficult, and only in combination and in
dosed quantities with them we can live!


and energy,
it can be, but we must create the conditions, the conditions for its inception her life.


And I will say so,
people who understood how to achieve it - really brilliant. And if they
are any on this planet it is not just. You are given the chance, you
have the key to changing the history, the key to the new trend of development of our planet. And silly
having such capabilities and knowledge not to try to turn history. You are
thus the momentum with which runs your machine and then goes on
thumb while working on itself.


But to blame
mortal body, our organic spacesuit spiritual identity, which dictates the rules, the rules of the
territory, where we are. The territory of
planet Earth. That's just who these rules has created, and why we are afraid that their
break.


Let's look
at the sun. There are also the simplest atoms, but there is other processes. Hydrogen at a certain process is transformed into
helium. Thus gives us light and energy. And why, yes because there is no
man! "


So you and our
case there is no limit a source of energy, but the question is that he is in the hands of
man. And what gets people, it
automatically becomes a paid and elected, as follows our human
nature.


The only thing that
annoys is injustice. There are people (a personal friend) that your entire
life flashed this problem. The best of the worthiest. From
pre-school age began his path in this direction. Written not
a single scientific work still at school age. Have realized grandiose projects
at a paltry pittance in order to understand the issues and as luck would have it only flag in hand,
can still reel in the neck ... And these people are among us, in fact on the data
forums. And confusing. The point is that no work bearing fruit, but a banal case
of luck. And having that key people become conceited and starts dreskodit. Dreskodit And only in words, not really,
instead of what would give an impetus, the momentum is.


So ask as
a question, but rather feel like this wind, the wind of change and not brake
the movement.


all again with
the Great Victory Day and the Day of Radio, I hope that in the near future and
Day FREE energo, I hope that we will live to see this.

Да здравствует Совок!!!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1618 on: May 09, 2010, 03:13:02 PM »
I was reading the russian forums and it sounds like a few others have already replicated and confirmed dynatrons success.

The following diodes were mentioned by dynatron: (I think!!??)

http://www.knfmp.ru/affin/class/138.html

have no idea about a lot of the other details, but im dying to give my polyprop capacitor a shot when ive managed to get the coil wound.

Looks like regular copper coil right?  2.5  mm2???

and i spose i can probably use the HV transformer from my T.Coil as a starting input?

I read 20 turns mentioned on one forum.  Is that 20 turns for each coil (making 40 in total) or ten in each making 20 in total?

I realise that you guys are probably also a little in the dark, but i'd welcome some speculations :)  I'll be trying whatever i can once i buy the diodes and (copper?) coil.

By the way - someone also mentioned making cuts/slots in the aluminium foil core.  dunno if this helps any experimenters....i bet Bart is already busy  ;D

@ flathunter & All

I spent some time on the forums mentioned in the links above and doing some translation in Google it appears that the following member (Anevagno) has replicated Dynatron's method using only 20 turns of 2.5 mm2 copper wire and NO FERRITE CORE!!!  He also mentioned it self oscillated when the diode end was disconnected....

Anevagno:

"I admit it.
Scheme dynatron fully working. Works train as Kacher, without any zamorochek.
Cooper Coil 20 turns, wound two-core wire 2.5 mm2, ferrites are not needed, and works well.
Capacitor only 8nF 6.3kV, if you disconnect the diode works all by itself without food.
That is, only works condenser and spool, in the discharger spark shoots where once a second.
In a word everything as written dynatron.
Thanks man great, I'm such and could not imagine that everything would be so easy.
I'm shocked. "

I'm attaching a text of some of Dynatron's comments translated from Google and not sure if it's of any use to anyone as it's kind of messy but there are components and values mentioned which might be of use...

Also...In some of the video's we see some replications which use way more than 20 turns of wire so I don't think the amount of turns is critical...Dynatron also mentioned this:

 "Turns the power inverter, in particular the withdrawal of the primary trance, the total wire-to-earth, without it works too ....Scheme experienced it with one diode (without forks) - result is the same ... "

So it seems once the Cap is charged the Avramenko diodes can be cut out of the input end (as shown in the video http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg240697#msg240697 posted by Macmep_L above) and the setup will self oscillate...I guess the input may not need to be like what's shown in the diagram as long as the cap is charged up to several kV...

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1619 on: May 09, 2010, 05:11:35 PM »

Several months ago I had posted a "self oscilator" on the energetic forum (Donald Smith) that operates in the same way as Dynatrons.  No one seemed interested in it at the time.  The first one would self oscillate for about 10 hours before the energy was depleated or the spark gap became deteriorated.   Since then I built a second one that will self oscillate for 17 hours +.   The picture shows the first one built using a ventex 2500 volt with a .5 uf 5kv DC cap.   It's basically a tank circuit with a 1 way valve and a spark gap.   I believe the spark gap operates more like a tiny capacitor.   It runs in the range of 18 to 80 hz depending on the energy level of the cap and SG adjustment.   

The second pic is a drawing of the second self oscillator that will flash a neon for 17 hours or more.