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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407076 times)

nightwind

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10440 on: February 03, 2012, 04:21:10 PM »
@Stivep

The biggest thing missing in all of TK's videos is his lab/shop?  I've seen no fancy instruments (just an amprobe).  When you were visiting him,  did you see his shop or where he did his work at?  Thanks

andrea76

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10441 on: February 03, 2012, 04:51:27 PM »
the frame at 3:00 min (the man how show the diagram) of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV_CprXTvwQ  .
is referred to this scheme?

stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10442 on: February 03, 2012, 06:40:42 PM »
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@wattsup,
thank you a lot for your considerations, while studying what written, I urge you to see last 'schematic ver.2' released by Wesley: THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL SECONDARY. THE ONLY ONE SECONDARY IS REFERRED TO GND; no connection either between the TBC's secondary and pickup coil center tap. I do not know the why of that. Wesley, please clarify that point 
Thanks
Roberto
 
Note: I have tried to feed back in several ways the center tap connection to the kacher in order to try to establish a positive reaction so possibly extending the diverging trumpet...up to now without success: the circuit quit or changes only a little his operatimg point.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10443 on: February 03, 2012, 06:43:35 PM »
I'm sure it must be me being an idiot but I'm unable to open the ZIP files that people have uploaded regarding Ghazanfar Ali's Multisim simulation. (I'm an IT admin so I should know a little about such things!) The ZIP files download to my machine but then say they are invalid when I try to open them (see captured image). Is there something really simple that I'm doing wrong? Does everyone rename the extensions and if so, what extension should I be using? Still no joy if the file extension is renamed using .ms11 etc. I've tried from a number of different PCs but always the same result.


JJUK


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10444 on: February 03, 2012, 07:35:25 PM »
@JJUK

I was able to download and unzip the flie, but then you have to go to the webside and download the program to wiev the .ms11 file. Hope this helps.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10445 on: February 03, 2012, 07:51:57 PM »
@stivep,
thanks so much for clarifying the point. I encourage you to advance/complete your research and try as I think you are doing, alternative exciting ways. For example I'm trying to take advantage by using 1/4 wave of the well known (by OM) RG-8...in fact my kacher is growing up incorporating funny features never seen up to now. I  am following also the idea to incorporate everything inside kacher itself...as the TK device is BASED on a Kacher ;)
Roberto

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10446 on: February 03, 2012, 08:59:13 PM »
OK, thanks gents.

I'm not that familiar with Multisim, but all simulators are much alike. I'll sim it up in PSpice and post my results.

I can assure you that there is some misunderstanding regarding what Ali is measuring, or how he is making the measurement. At the very least, something is not being accounted for.

I think we all understand that it is impossible to achieve an OU result with SPICE.

Regards,
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TRUE!  A  SIM can only do math based upon known principles.  Cap loops with zero resistance etc and expanding VARS via lumped inductance (OU trumpet signatures) normally create a Division by ZERO error and the program crashes. What do you expect from a math program not expecting > 1 or over unity? LOL


Same thing happens in Falsted.  SIMS do have there place though and are useful for deriving ideal driver circuits.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10447 on: February 03, 2012, 09:01:12 PM »

Thanks 27Bubba. Unfortunately that's not the problem. I've already installed the 30 day trial of Multisim. The ZIP files appear corrupt when I try to open them having downloaded them from Overunity.com. All I get when I try to open them is the message that I provided in the screenshot previously. Just can't get at the zipped files. Perhaps someone could share them over SkyDrive or similar?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10448 on: February 03, 2012, 10:38:05 PM »
That is the point
You not reading carefully enough
You not watching carefully enough
You not analyzing carefully enough
It is not me who is doing something it is TK  helper who assembled this device to present it to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YPVwfnvqw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAPe3DiYt2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBgDwG2ZLkM this one start from 09:15


Conclusion:
Coaxial cable was utilized in video 2004 [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4X5zy0piSg[/size]
and in TK show to me.


SHVGS ( Stupid High  Voltage Generating System) from gas operated heating boiler
generates
-burst of impulses for few seconds than stops 
-sensor wire  fins that spark is no longer there and sends burst again
-when flame( plasma) is present sensor senses current(? voltage)
and do not send request to electronic circuitry  for next burst


For Tariel the importance is  presence of spark.
In presentation for me personally Tariel device did not have spark gap
that means that spark gap is only HV DC chopper
that means that most likely, spark gap is not important if other means could replace spark.


I was not sure in series of my videos  how that spark creating device was connected to coaxial cable.


But I know I think right now how SHGS works.


Coaxial cable has inner conductor and shield
 All purpose is to have HV impulse present in coax but not in inner wire as shield would normally shield  the EMF. But what about electrostatics hm?
You have 3 wires form withe box
You have 2 ends of coax inner conductor
You have 2 ends of coax shield
There is nothing in addition connected to it
 so connect it. that mechanism I described here is sustain.
There are many of you who sweep market from white boxes.($7-$15)
Connect coaxial cable and try it making sure that burst is sustained and supported by sensor!!


One part of puzzle will be  clear. for both instances
- TK from presentation to me
-TK from 2004


Wesley

Device what showed for you in Geargia – outer coil of coaxial cable - is used as conductor (middle wire are not connected) Why? i already say it. – this is first thing!

About Green Box
– Peoples who are there when they filmed, can confirm 100% that there are no coaxial cables.
4 years ago (when you even don't know about Tariel) i talked with video operator who filmed a green Box video (and others who be there) – he worked at that time in Geaorgia Television. Don't forget that i also working in TV and have more  contacts in Georgia than you can imagine – and i connot listen your lies about what is in Tariel devices!!!

First – this is stupid!
And second - respect poeples around you and respect Tariel's work.
About Transparent box:
 There also are no coaxial cables in any case! There are three coils.
 1) magnetise coil / horizontal /.
 2) HV coil / vertical in front /.
 3) inductor / vertical on back /

 And Hidden schematics block at end bottom of the box.
 (the schematics who are you see there - are only to hide some parts!

 About gas ignition:
 Who say you that there are no custom schematics inside ignition box? You think Tariel is stupid and show for everybody secrets?
 no it is not what you think!

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 Time goes and you like it or not, but you must agree with me! Sooner or later you do - because you don't have a choice.

 P.S. your attitude is very aggressive for now, be friendly and maybe someday, somebody reveal some secrets for you! actually as you remember i sent you couple Pm's about work of the device, but you even want to listen - this is your choice.
 ... But stop fool peoples!!!

 (Spark Gap are not play power role in device, it is used to make abalance at "0" point between Live and Ground) conductor are conneced in 3 points coil are divided in 1/4 – one of this point are spark gap.

cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10449 on: February 03, 2012, 10:43:26 PM »
@Stivep

The biggest thing missing in all of TK's videos is his lab/shop?  I've seen no fancy instruments (just an amprobe).  When you were visiting him,  did you see his shop or where he did his work at?  Thanks

There are no much in his lab, Capacitors old TVs without HV transformers, and other old soviet parts and etc... But this are some 4, 5 years ago.
what has Tariel say at that time was that device is very simple.
..and at that time – in 2003 when Green box was filmed in his lab are no ossciloscopes (only old soviel frequency reader) thats all...

Khwartz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10450 on: February 03, 2012, 11:15:07 PM »
@Broli
 Ok here is another optimization. I simply increased the amplitude of pulsed DC from (0-5V) to (0-10V). And now I am placing a 10Ohms load which is almost equivalent to a heating element. Now The power output is around 800W.
 And it did not affect the oscillation.
 U can use capacitors in parallel and series combination to get the desired value.
Hi Ghaznfar_Ali! thanks for sharing :)

For increasing of power, doesn't surprise me too much: power goes with the square of the frequency but of the voltage too, when you fill caps :

P = 0,5 * C * (Vmax² - Vmin²) * fc²

with

P: power [W]
C: capacitance [F]
V: voltage [V]
fc: frequency of the charging cycles.

Do you think that is fit to your system?

Cheer.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10451 on: February 03, 2012, 11:32:20 PM »
@ All
 Thanks for your comments. I know you all have some queries. First of all the schematic in which I got 800W is still under my observation coz my device sometimes gives 800 W just after powering on and connecting the load but sometimes it just stops giving output. The previous one with 42W is stable and works fine. I am attaching the schematic with bulbs connected as load.
 I am out of my home station where I designed the hardware. The simulation is with me in my Laptop which I am sharing with you all. I used LRC meter to reduced the winding of my ferrite core which was already 500uH. I haven't used an air core yet as its difficult to get this value for an air core.
 I will start a new thread soon with the devices pics.
 
« Last Edit: February 04, 2012, 10:16:49 AM by Ghazanfar_Ali »

stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10452 on: February 03, 2012, 11:38:00 PM »
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Cosmo LV


Dear friend
 Let's assume that you  100% right
Lets assume that you are aggressive not me


Lets assume that  I  and you we both do not know  TK secret


What different does it make that you will shut at me more?


NONE....
You will be at your home and I will be at mine.


One thing I do not understand about you....
What is that you want to  prove?
Where is  you want to go with all of this?
Do you know the secret and others not// if yes say it or say that you do not want to say it.
At the end it would be not important after all.
Nobody will remember  names of that great army of voluntaries


Wesley


PS:  just say what is right approach... enlight people that's all..


nightwind

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10453 on: February 03, 2012, 11:39:44 PM »
There are no much in his lab, Capacitors old TVs without HV transformers, and other old soviet parts and etc... But this are some 4, 5 years ago.
what has Tariel say at that time was that device is very simple.
..and at that time – in 2003 when Green box was filmed in his lab are no ossciloscopes (only old soviel frequency reader) thats all...

Thanks, that is what I thought.  This device doesn't require oscilloscopes or high end instruments to adjust or tune, because he didn't have any.   I do agree with you, it does require a minimum of three coils to operate and his wiring methods look poorly or hurriedly done (compared to Smith).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10454 on: February 03, 2012, 11:47:33 PM »
Thanks, that is what I thought.  This device doesn't require oscilloscopes or high end instruments to adjust or tune, because he didn't have any.   I do agree with you, it does require a minimum of three coils to operate and his wiring methods look poorly or hurriedly done (compared to Smith).

Yes, there is nothing from Simith device. All thing is to control current and support it.Remember 220volts goes in and 220 volts goes out – why is that (important question) there is no inversion from DC to AC – AC in AC out
inverter are used only where it start device from batteries, only to support right AC current.

(actually it is always inverter) because it don't have a physical Ground – this is important