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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407863 times)

cheappower2012

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12225 on: July 03, 2012, 06:55:20 AM »
 Virtual grounds,I don't see a ground,can't find a ground
so it must be an invisible ground or a  Virtual ground. ::)

A motor in a can,primitive and disappointing :o,a motor that's a generator and runs its self,wow
where do you guys get this stuff from ,very creative,crazy stuff ;).
Tk's device is powered from a place miles up,somewhere close to 60 miles up,  Schumann resonances,
at a frequency of 7 HZ  to 16 Hz,the energy content of a wave is determined by its frequency,
the waves at 7Hz to 16Hz are very,very low energy,that can never explain the power of TK's devices.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12226 on: July 03, 2012, 08:55:18 AM »
Virtual grounds,I don't see a ground,can't find a ground
so it must be an invisible ground or a  Virtual ground. ::)


Well invisible ground is either hidden ground or artificial ground  means  virtual ground.
The term is perfectly technical.
virtual ground is counterpoise for an antenna 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterpoise_(ground_system)


So please please speak  English here.







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A motor in a can,primitive and disappointing :o ,a motor that's a generator and runs its self,wow
where do you guys get this stuff from ,very creative,crazy stuff ;) .


Why not, you see can being hold with epoxy so it do not move from its original place :)
if motor is to be a dirty signal generating element than look at the schematic below ,
I know that this is simple and primitive assumption but we do not expect from TK to build space craft.




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Tk's device is powered from a place miles up,somewhere close to 60 miles up,  Schumann resonances,
at a frequency of 7 HZ  to 16 Hz,the energy content of a wave is determined by its frequency,
the waves at 7Hz to 16Hz are very,very low energy,that can never explain the power of TK's devices.




I agree if  and only if we use Natural incoming frequencies from Shumann effect.
Bu if we assume presence of the transmitter that was placed somewhere to  transmit at frequency of Shumann  resonance than is different story...




or as we know that


telluric current that exist in the earth and was used commercially in 1858 as FE. That Telluric current is  product of ionosphere earth interaction. And as space between  ionosphere and earth is a waveguide for Shumann  effect than there is the place where we should look at presence of naturally accruing transmitter   






Picture with 2 motors is  only graphical presentation of transmitter receiver
But when transmitter stops to transmit  for interval of  few cycles than  receiver becomes transmitter  returning  energy back to motor that act now as receiver.


Non saturating RF choke :
 this is  iron pipe with two magnet discs  on the sides that was another crazy idea from Niko
 as he was taking color of the discs (black) as presence of magnets.


since ferrites can not be used and  in regular  CRT TV every TV has this kind of choke ( just take piece of  metal or  screwdriver and try to stick to this choke... you will find out that  I did not discovered  "Amerika."..
Again this kind of choke is in every TV.



Wait a moment..........
Why choke in my TV has magnet not on the top of the coil but round disc that is on the side of the coil??????? hm.............( in my TV with CRT tube ,magnet disc is in diameter of the length  of the coil and is not placed  coaxially edge of that  circle is touching  edges of  form of the coil)
 TK told me that he  found something interesting and that is why he start to experiment with it........








I was trying to explain only one element of the schematic here. It is 3:32 AM  ...I'll better go to bed and rest  will be added later.




So  why they did not use ferrites in TVs ??? ??? ??? ??? Because ferrite  saturates..



The coil 1,2, is secondary coil  that takes all of the impurities and there is spark gap adding even more impurities than  look where this coil 1,2 terminals are connected.............
to primary of the transformer.. than  in effect  most of it is going to end-up in motor...
That acts as self regulating  circuitry...






In red  box you have capacitor and coil (just marked with  red box but not explained on the picture)


That is a coil winded on capacitor ( preferably vacuum capacitor or ceramic)




The first transformer on the left  UPS [ with 3 legs on primary is our  12V from battery to 220V converter ( inverter)]




Counterpoise reverse antenna


This is like antenna ups side down........... flipped ..........


What was to be ground or artificial ground or counterpoise  or balance = now it is antenna


What was to be an antenna = becomes  ground or artificial ground or counterpoise  or balance








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« Last Edit: July 03, 2012, 10:10:34 AM by stivep »

cheappower2012

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« Reply #12227 on: July 03, 2012, 10:37:35 AM »
@Stivep, I 100% disagree that the energy the TK device gets is by
waves,so in my view you don't need a ground.I further believe that only certain parts
 are related to Tesla.The motor in the can may be possible as a sort of pulse generator.
Like the tpu people
that believe certain things the tpu is a Tesla invention,the inventor can't lie,your not going to change your opinion,and I'm not
here to change peoples minds nor do I care to do that
but to acquire information on TK's device for my own research.A question for you,
the helper in the greenbox video,that held the box,I think hes name is teto something like that,
has raccoon eyes,what relation is he to TK,isn't he the one taking to you
when you looked at the TK device in Georgia,didn't he also make the device under TK's instruction.
Althu I think that TK is part conman,why did the people in turkey drop TK's device that
is strange do you know more about that.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12229 on: July 03, 2012, 01:26:10 PM »



Wesley (Stivep)


What is inside of Green Box?


What is inside of plastic box on top of 200 watt device?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12230 on: July 03, 2012, 02:33:35 PM »
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What is inside of Green Box?

Maybe one Higgs boson ?  ;D

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« Reply #12231 on: July 03, 2012, 03:33:05 PM »
@Stivep, I 100% disagree that the energy the TK device gets is by
waves,so in my view you don't need a ground.I further believe that only certain parts
 are related to Tesla.The motor in the can may be possible as a sort of pulse generator.
Like the tpu people
that believe certain things the tpu is a Tesla invention,the inventor can't lie,your not going to change your opinion,and I'm not
here to change peoples minds nor do I care to do that
but to acquire information on TK's device for my own research.A question for you,
the helper in the greenbox video,that held the box,I think hes name is teto something like that,
has raccoon eyes,what relation is he to TK,isn't he the one taking to you
when you looked at the TK device in Georgia,didn't he also make the device under TK's instruction.
Althu I think that TK is part conman,why did the people in turkey drop TK's device that
is strange do you know more about that.


 Oh I beg to differ with you. A virtual ground is a pair of antennas. With each having it's own steady state potentials. Just like in radio's. It's not exactly like that but in my honest opinion the paired antenna's is a better description. Lets see what the definition is and maybe it will open your eyes....


reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_ground
 Circuits related to virtual grounds and how to design them: http://tangentsoft.net/elec/vgrounds.html

"Virtual ground (or virtual earth) is a node of the circuit that is maintained at a steady reference potential, without being connected directly to the reference potential. In some cases the reference potential is considered to be that of the surface of the earth, and the reference node is called "ground" or "earth" as a consequence.
The virtual ground concept aids circuit analysis in operational amplifier and other circuits and provides useful practical circuit effects that would be difficult to achieve in other ways.
In circuit theory, a node may have any value of current or voltage but physical implementations of a virtual ground will have limitations of current handling ability and a non-zero impedance which may have practical side effects."

 Pay attention to the word "Node" a node is exactly what Tesla was using in the hair pin circuit and he also said it applies to wire and mass, resistance to a lesser extent, geometry is a larger effect.

 Those virtual grounds do not even need to be big at all. If the cycles are high enough all you would need is very tiny virtual grounds. I think that would be in the Megacycles range. Tesla Also said that the higher the frequency the more powerful this kind of pump works.

 I would also like to point out our speed through the Universe. If we understand that one little set of antenna is never in the same spot in any instance of time because of that speed. So the amount of medium we are floating in must be moving at incredible speed. I guess you have never read up on Tesla's high voltage experiments where he shows the structure of the field through the intensity of this kind of pump. Catch up to the rest of us. I believe TK is very versed in Tesla, he has to be. Because everything he is doing is based off of Tesla. It's very apparent. I think donald Smith was mentioned as well.

 @Stivep when are we gonna get a translated video's to English. I want to hear his words as he talks in the videos. I would like someone to do this honestly and accurately. I think there are clues in his descriptions and we need to hear the truth about those words. I don't know any other language but English so if someone could do that honestly it would be better all around.

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« Reply #12232 on: July 03, 2012, 04:13:59 PM »
yep, all is spoken in videos  :D apparently you didn't analysed them enough  :-\

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« Reply #12233 on: July 03, 2012, 04:25:32 PM »
yep, all is spoken in videos  :D apparently you didn't analysed them enough  :-\


 Wait just because I can't understand him that means I didn't analyze them enough. Wow... Why do you have to be like that? If you got nothing to contribute why are you here?

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« Reply #12234 on: July 03, 2012, 06:08:25 PM »
    I guess it is the first video made at the place he was renting but TK buries a radiator with attached cable.  He is duplicating what Tesla did in Colorado springs when he was trying to build a lightning arrestor so when the secondary broke out it wouldnt kill people.  TK then takes a second wire and attaches it to a water main.  He asks someone to measure the difference.  The guy takes a voltage reading.  Tesla took resistance readings.  Tesla watered down his buried ground metals but the water would just run through the soil and the resistance between that and the watermain run out to his site would go up over three thousand ohms.  When Tesla was experimenting with his transformer corona discharge would back down the watermains and make pipes glow purple white.  Now when miles of pipe line glow purple white (uv also and xrays etc.)  are we to believe that all this energy is coming from a generator going out to Tesla's spot then returning on metal pipes and somehow majically jumping into the powerplant generator through the neutral back through the boost transformers in a closed loop circuit.  Could this be a local event CATALYZED by the amount of charge distributed in the ground CAPACITOR.   Tesla theorized about an energy sink.  This would be analogous to a chamber with attached tube in a lake.  As water flowed into the chamber it passed through turbines.  The turbines drove electrolysis units converting the water to hydrogen and oxygen which continually floated out of the chamber.  The chamber never filled up so the pressure differential continually was maintained.  A few years later he remarked about his earlier energy sink mind exercise and stated he was successful in creating one.

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« Reply #12235 on: July 03, 2012, 06:47:54 PM »

 Wait just because I can't understand him that means I didn't analyze them enough. Wow... Why do you have to be like that? If you got nothing to contribute why are you here?

I contributed more that you think  ??? Apparently nobody is listening here... In green box video there are two grounds but only one of them is connected , not both at the same time, compare to "aquarium box" video, still only one ground. Guy near water hose was annoyed but other one touching water faucet. Why ? He said " spokojno stoisz i ni kakich problemow niet" means probably "you are standing calm and no problems" then said "release" and that man is not touching faucet anymore. What is that telling you ?

Again : later in video Tariel assistant clearly said about comparision with power station and then performed experiement with turning off and on a bank of maybe 10 bulbs each 200W - no dimm reaction from the nearby bulbs laying among trees. He explained that such (scaled up) power drop on grid would cause catastrophic failuer if staff in power station would not accomodate power usage.

Again : when ground was changed to burried radiator only one bulb could be lit and what Tariel checked first ? Interesting...


Many such moments can be catch and even more if somebody could translate video from 2004 year - it contains very interesting detailed explanations I think

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« Reply #12236 on: July 03, 2012, 07:38:01 PM »
I contributed more that you think  ??? Apparently nobody is listening here... In green box video there are two grounds but only one of them is connected , not both at the same time, compare to "aquarium box" video, still only one ground. Guy near water hose was annoyed but other one touching water faucet. Why ? He said " spokojno stoisz i ni kakich problemow niet" means probably "you are standing calm and no problems" then said "release" and that man is not touching faucet anymore. What is that telling you ?

Again : later in video Tariel assistant clearly said about comparision with power station and then performed experiement with turning off and on a bank of maybe 10 bulbs each 200W - no dimm reaction from the nearby bulbs laying among trees. He explained that such (scaled up) power drop on grid would cause catastrophic failuer if staff in power station would not accomodate power usage.

Again : when ground was changed to burried radiator only one bulb could be lit and what Tariel checked first ? Interesting...


Many such moments can be catch and even more if somebody could translate video from 2004 year - it contains very interesting detailed explanations I think


 Thank you. I didn't know if you meant that in a different way, thats why I asked if you were serious... Agree there is plenty in the videos from the chatter going on there. Since I don't know his language at all I'm guessing because of gestures he makes and facial expressions. It not easy to do.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12237 on: July 03, 2012, 09:52:27 PM »


Wesley (Stivep)


What is inside of Green Box?


What is inside of plastic box on top of 200 watt device?


DonL
sorry for responding late.
What is in green box, the same as  in BED presentation.
Even inverter was utilized in green  box from  BED    presentation.






what puzzle me is is it possible that in my presentation in Tbilisi that coil that was bigger in diameter................ was that possible that diameter was bigger because that was ceramic capacitor inside?   So TK made change
instead of showing like in aquarium two separate chokes  ( red and black) next to horizontal coil-capacitor he put everything together? so it looks like one  coil?


I remember when Guy with  the mustache   he got scared when I  wanted to look inside the coil.
And in did he destruct my attention.
What was inside the box...
good question..


If I was to be ,100% negative, skeptical and criticizing 
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,than  I would  think that in that plastic box......... it was very small  (alarm box type ) battery inside and I would think  that this is sort of real device, but not real device.
But calculation led me to conclusion that with the load of  200W  battery could not withstand .
Just by regular current calculation   the battery must hold 16.666 A for 30 minutes.
By that typical 12V 8AH battery would not be able to withhold it.I would see deterioration of the light with time. and at the minute 23 the battery must of  be completely discharged .
Definitively concept of TK was there,  he did not have motor so less energy consumption...
Electronic ignitor is very low current HV  device.




Wesley.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2012, 01:51:20 AM by stivep »

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« Reply #12238 on: July 03, 2012, 10:06:55 PM »
    I guess it is the first video made at the place he was renting but TK buries a radiator with attached cable.  He is duplicating what Tesla did in Colorado springs when he was trying to build a lightning arrestor so when the secondary broke out it wouldnt kill people.  TK then takes a second wire and attaches it to a water main.  He asks someone to measure the difference.  The guy takes a voltage reading.  Tesla took resistance readings.  Tesla watered down his buried ground metals but the water would just run through the soil and the resistance between that and the watermain run out to his site would go up over three thousand ohms.  When Tesla was experimenting with his transformer corona discharge would back down the watermains and make pipes glow purple white.  Now when miles of pipe line glow purple white (uv also and xrays etc.)  are we to believe that all this energy is coming from a generator going out to Tesla's spot then returning on metal pipes and somehow majically jumping into the powerplant generator through the neutral back through the boost transformers in a closed loop circuit.  Could this be a local event CATALYZED by the amount of charge distributed in the ground CAPACITOR.   Tesla theorized about an energy sink.  This would be analogous to a chamber with attached tube in a lake.  As water flowed into the chamber it passed through turbines.  The turbines drove electrolysis units converting the water to hydrogen and oxygen which continually floated out of the chamber.  The chamber never filled up so the pressure differential continually was maintained.  A few years later he remarked about his earlier energy sink mind exercise and stated he was successful in creating one.

I've never heard of these miles of pipes glowing purple white. Can you provide a reference to this claim ?
Aren't the water pipes under the ground ? 
How would one determine that miles of underground pipes are glowing purple white ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12239 on: July 03, 2012, 10:29:31 PM »
Сергей Ð’.     where did the towers go ?

look here this woman has analysed the wtc-event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmmQ6OWMHTI&feature=related

http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/

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