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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16523019 times)

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14550 on: October 25, 2012, 01:30:36 AM »
@TheBuzz

The question is not so simple and cannot be answered by "the answer is in my last four posts".

If you have an idea, then please put it where it counts. Please use your theory and provide a specific method where the TK components are specifically described. Otherwise you are just giving us another layer to get lost in and that is not productive.

Just to say, man has been using electricity for the last 150 years without really knowing what electricity is. I would not mind using OU for the next 150 years without knowing what it is that drives it. That is the least of my concerns right now and many have their own developed ideas on that question but again none will help in this endeavor of OU.

As far as I am concerned, even if 1000 of the worlds best scientists get together for one year and hatch The New Relativity, chances are 99.999% that they will be wrong again. We should not push this question because no one will have the real answer until a good few generations more. But meanwhile, back in our caves we need some light regardless of where the hell it came from.

We need to give this world a rest. A rest on pillaging its resources and energy so it can just recover from our present mess we have made. So if we can simply get some OU, this will buy us the time and the quietude required to then calmly ponder the other universal secrets. But to try and fix in with this thread seems rather unrealistic.

So, if I can just suggest that yes, you may have something in mind that is pertinent but it has to fit the device. We need to see the theory applied to the nuts and bolts of the device.

wattsup


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14551 on: October 25, 2012, 02:24:04 AM »





 Wattsup this guy is a sham. He pours through previous posts and uses them to make himself look in the know. He does this all over in fact he has a self made organization that is only a troll collective. They sit around a main guy like TheBuzz and collectively yank his.. Well you know...


 He is not gonna be any help here. In fact I think I'll be going into my own world and stopping all communication with everyone. I have given enough I guess and was only here to bounce ideas off other like minded individuals. Thanks for sharing your side Wattsup.. Hope you find the real device eventually. I think I am close... We will see...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14552 on: October 25, 2012, 02:36:35 AM »
Wattsup...... unless we're talking radiant energy......hmmmm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14553 on: October 25, 2012, 02:38:53 AM »
A radiant energy spike has every frequency in it. But it is generated by ..... not a hv source......  think..

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14554 on: October 25, 2012, 03:10:24 AM »
Zeitmaschine - Saint Buzz would add to that the reason why you need the spark gap:

The voltage across the spark gap pulls a void in the heliospere of a greater vacuum potential then what exists naturally. The heliosphere slams that hole closed again. This slamming of the void closed is equal to the vacuum of gravity which exists within the heliospere. Hence, the displacement current of the "stout" mass is changed.
Then we have a slight problem: The visible spark gap in the 2004 video does not work properly, hence there has to be a hidden spark gap within the tin can.

Furthermore the spark gap in the aquarium II device fires at approx. 10Hz only, hence is this enough to keep the energy flowing continuously?

In addition, this is like a Tesla style spark gap sounds: Tesla "Hairpin Circuit" lighting 100 watt halogen bulb, under water as well

I can't remember hearing such a noise in any of the TK videos. This could only mean either the TK spark gap works somehow completely different than a classical Tesla spark gap, or TK does not use a spark gap at all (except for showcase).

Moreover in the Hempel demonstration (1 Farad cap) there is neither a spark gap nor high voltage involved. Hence how does this work with 20 volts only?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14555 on: October 25, 2012, 05:39:27 AM »
@ Zeitsmachine
Quote from the picture " two capacitors are charged to High voltage and then discharged through spark gap".
I don't think they are charged this way.Look, only one terminal of each capacitor is connected to HV transformer secondary.How can you charge capacitor, coccecting only one side of it to HV source?
I think there is another mechanism here.Two capacitors act like barier to prevent conduction current flowing in the "stout bar", and wasting your HV dipole source, what is happening- charge ( or potential) alternations that happens on transformer side of capacitors plates - by displacement current inside capacitors- cause potential alternations on the other capacitor plates, consequently potential difference along stout bar.If you have potential difference- then you have a dipole within copper bar- and this results in current flow.
I think that a spark gap here is just a "safety device". If you happen to have resonant alternations in secondary of HV transformer ( that behaves like transmission line ) , then voltages could raise out of control destroying transformer.
Pattern of voltage nodes on the stout bar depends of the alternations frequency.
I still think of "hairpin" mechanical equivalent would be a pipe closed on the both sides by elastic membranes.If you drive those membranes simultanously and  symmetrically, then you will have an alternating gas movement within that pipe.
What do you think?
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14556 on: October 25, 2012, 06:16:25 AM »
@ Quark
Quote : "Displacement current radiates 90 degrees from the direction of the wire and everybody knows that - hence the term "displacement".

I was referring to the displacement current happening inside capacitors. Two capacitors on the "hairpin" circuit blocks conduction current and lets displacement current alternations pass to stout bar.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14557 on: October 25, 2012, 09:56:04 AM »
Uh huh... Yeah, like I said - a bloody face, 4 pots of coffee, 2 packs of Camels and fuck yeah! Weed! I'm just saying...
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Are you on the drugs?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14558 on: October 25, 2012, 10:57:00 AM »
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Are you on the drugs?

Probably, or someone who doesn't have any sense in life rather than to spam internet forums with wiseguy content.
Moderators notified to put an end to it for the Xth time.

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14559 on: October 25, 2012, 01:15:48 PM »
The spark gap in the fish tank video if that is what you are referring to is a safety spark gap that bleeds off excess charge to the necessary ground wire.
This is strange. Because in the tin can video there is obviously no such (10Hz) safety spark gap that bleeds off something. ???

As far as hearing it on his green box video, if you were standing there, you would hear it slightly but the higher the frequency, the less you hear it. I can barely hear mine running at 20khz.
This is the aquarium II video. If there is a hidden second spark gap running at 20kHz (or higher) then why has TK decided to hide it?

As far as the Hempel demonstration, I am not aware of that demonstration but shoot me a link and I will have a look. You can get the effect lots of different ways. The gray tube is a hairpin in a can for example.
The link was one page (17 posts) ago: Freie Energie "Kalter Strom" Präsentation (the German language experiment video) ::)

EDIT - If you use a fast IGBT you can get the effect at any voltage to some degree. A spark gap is a good method if you are using high voltage for obvious reasons. I demonstrated it here roughly a year ago using some little silicone transistors with a row of ferrites. Banned right after that.
Banned because it worked? Then try to demonstrate it a second time. 8)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14560 on: October 25, 2012, 02:05:46 PM »
@ pix


One other thing genius, the capacitors make it possible to have a spark gap. Google "dead short" if you need a hand figuring that out. There is no "dipole" in the copper tube, the circuit is symmetric. It is displacement current and there is no "current flow".
Sir,
Seems you do not understand what I am saying.In "hairpin" shorted copper bar there is a pattern of voltage and current max and min.Tesla did light incadescent lamp by connecting it between such minimum and maximum points.It is like transmission line with reflected signals creating standing wave. Currents flow between the points of voltage maximum and minimum.What is intersting in Tesla patents and "Hairpin" circuit, that copper bar is fed from HV transformer not directly, but via capacitors.And I see a spark gap there differently.
If you have potential difference in the space- then you will have a current.If that space happens to be occupied by conductor, there will be conducting current flow.If it is a free space- there we have displacement current.
I do understand what is displacement current.Every conductor with non stationary potential on it will radiate displacement current due to capacitance with ground or other nearby objects. The greater rate of potential change, the bigger displacement current radiating 90 deg out of conductor.
 
What I do not understand Sir, is your attitude and crude behavior.You jupmed out of nowhere ( let's say, out of zero-point-energy field) and  do attack people.
Seems you have and definitive answer to this thread topic,and maybe working device also?
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14561 on: October 25, 2012, 02:40:55 PM »
1. If you are talking about the tin can video where Kapanadze has it in a green rounded can on a white sheet, you assume you can see through steel?
Can't remember seeing any green rounded can on a white sheet made of steel in a TK video. ??? ???

But if so, I assume I can hear through steel. :D

2. You are apparently not bright enough to know the difference between hiding something and shielding something. Did you think the big brass box on top of the fish tank is a coin slot / dollar changer?
No idea. Could you kindly supply a photograph of that box? :)

3. If you think OU cap charging is something new, then you are new.
Yes, I'm new to this. (Thanks to the mainstream media blackout >:( )

It takes nothing more than two caps and a battery to destroy second law at a basic level.
Not even a spark gap? ??? ??? :P

The answers were all posted by DOLE and others. That is why this thread has gone on for so long - to bury it.
Then maybe their argumentation was not powerful enough, so it has been overlooked. :o

Consider yourself vetted.
I consider myself on the right track. And I consider this thread as stirred up like a hornet's nest. 8)

BTW: Who is who in this forum?? I gradually lose track of this.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14562 on: October 25, 2012, 04:32:43 PM »
@Wattsup
This thread has degenerated into conjecture and abstract esoterica.
Recognize diversionary tactics when you see them.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14563 on: October 25, 2012, 04:44:26 PM »
@TheBuzz

Just for the record, as for spending my time,  I work all day (with some days off) and OU all night (and some days), like any normal person with a passion. Not for patenting, not for business (I already have that and is going well), not for suppression, not for disinformation (although we all may risk this every time we post an idea), but just to try and move forward . So please do not try to paint me with such a brush again because you do not have the monopoly on nasty.
 
As for the.....
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Getting people to disclose specifics is the name of the game for the spooks - that changes the game. 
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Man, you just summarized your reason for being here in one sentence. That is scary. So all abstract and no substance is your motto. Thanks alot. Sorry but playing games is not my style.
 
So..... with all your pissing around, there is only one thing to say.....

"May the stench be with you".
 
Guess I only have one other question then......

How are the toilets in heaven?

@Quark 2.01

Displacement current radiates 90 degrees from the direction of the wire and everybody knows that - hence the term "displacement".

So...... prove it. Or show me were this is a proven fact before you shoot off your damn mouth at everyone.

You can call it what you want. It is basically coupling but who has proven it "radiates" 90 degrees off the wire. And how did they prove it "radiates"? Maybe it attracts. Hmmmmm.

But wasting pages here on simple coupling is not useful.

@jbignes5

Despite all our differences (if any), that should not hinder any mutual progress for OU. So, if you let anyone just poke a hole to deflate your Will, my suggestion, just plug it up and keep going.

wattsup

PS: Both @TheBuzz and @Quark 2.01 are now put on notice. You want to post, fine, do it respectfully or get the F out of here otherwise I will do it for you. Last call. You have taken up too many pages on this thread and said NOTHING but "coupling" and a whole slew of insults. Wow, thanks a lot. I ask @TheBuzz to show where the coupling is in any of the TK devices and I just get a major juvenile piss off. That's it for you guys. First and last warning.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14564 on: October 25, 2012, 06:15:48 PM »
The smiley faces are symbolizing the hornets flying around all over the place. ;D

Now let me think: What happens when a capacitor is short-circuited? The sudden discharge creates a current, but this is not an ordinary current, it is a special current. And it does not matter whether this current is displaced or not, all what matters is that - as it seems - this current can create energy for free if collected the right way.

Can there be a current of nothing? If a capacitor is discharged slowly then a current goes through the wire (and heats it up). If a capacitor is discharged quickly then the electrons are to lazy to move (through the wire) so the current goes around the wire and this current is not made of electrons but of aether (it moves the aether). This occurs each time a electric current has to go form zero to infinity in no time and this effect is not restricted to capacitors.

Sorry if this phraseology is somewhat amateurish but I'm interested to get this to work, not to write a book about it.

SECRETS OF COLD WAR TECHNOLOGY

»The sudden quick closure of the switch now brought a penetrating shockwave throughout the laboratory, one which could be felt both as a sharp pressure and a penetrating electrical irritation. A “sting”. Face and hands were especially sensitive to the explosive Shockwaves, which also produced a curious “stinging” effect at close range. «

Dole made some more videos between about page 600 - 800. I guess you missed that too.
A working TK device replication inclusive schematics has been missed? That's embarrassing in deed! :-[

So where is the link to the schematic of the working Kapanadze device? Maybe it has been displaced?

How anybody can't see the obvious displacement current coil wrapped around kapanadze's device is a mystery to me.
To me too. Especially since the web is crowded with them and obviously none of them is working (except the true one).

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