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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16406517 times)

captainkt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21510 on: April 22, 2014, 09:03:06 PM »
@jeg,What is lower potential sink? do I want it or should I avoid it. If I want it how do I get it, and are we talking 24,240, 2400volts as compared to a flyback voltage of 24,000volts, plain language please.
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stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21511 on: April 23, 2014, 04:27:20 AM »

Wesley Translate's Akula video #16: Akula's TPU part 5



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpx1SJdXnmo&feature=youtu.be






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Jeg

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21512 on: April 23, 2014, 08:10:14 AM »
@jeg,What is lower potential sink? do I want it or should I avoid it. If I want it how do I get it, and are we talking 24,240, 2400volts as compared to a flyback voltage of 24,000volts, plain language please.
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Keith

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It is a universal law that energy always flow from high potentials to low. If two tanks with water are connected, then when you open the valve the water flows from the tank with the higher level of water to the tank with the lower level of water. This is the basic principle. As elementsix Leedskalnin and many others said, we are using the wrong side of electricity and that means that we use to work our electric circuits with positive potentials which are above the ground or surrounding environment  level. Just that by itself, is a waste of energy escaping from the wires and components to the surroundings. If we turn our design philosophy as to use potentials lower than the surrounding environment, then the process is reversed. Energy escapes from the environment and fills  our circuits up through the wires and components. This is the so called ENERGY SINK. There are no losses this way. To explain it better lets say that a circuit works at 24v dc positive voltage. That means that every component in this circuit see a potential difference of +24v comparing to ground. If we just change the pwr supply to -24v compare to ground then what will happen? It is just that the process will be reversed. This knowledge by itself can change everything. Look for example the kapanadje replication of naudin's. Notice how is feeding the primary with negative pulses... Some used to say that the higher the pulse the better the gain. It is just that no one mentioned that we speak about negative pulses.


Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21513 on: April 23, 2014, 09:46:38 AM »

Excuse me but I think you didn't follow the reality... most of inventors were not BOLD and POWERFULL RICH CHAPS bored of theirs life, wanting to do something extraordinary. Look, community do not support them , they are not honored , they are not living in safe situation having all requested means to continue working on improving device. The most they could expect is a patent and a kicstarter project , only if their idea is not a threat to the powerfull lobby...
What is Tariel doing now ? did he got a solid position in the factory producing his devices in commercial manner (for usefulness of community) ? did he got a shares stock in bussiness on every produced device ?  or maybe they are trying to rip him off and continue research without him ?
How do you know what is better to do ?
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How can I possibly address what you said when it does not relate what I said ?

I suggest a re-read.

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Wesley Translate's Akula video #16: Akula's TPU part 5   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpx1SJdXnmo&feature=youtu.be       

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21514 on: April 23, 2014, 02:39:24 PM »
Jeg


This is all true, except missing one important factor. Try to connect a load across two (!) batteries terminal, like for example take 9V battery and 12V battery. Then try to connect bulb between 9V negative and 12V negative. What do you expect ? According to claim 12V negative terminal is more negative and there should be current flow ... ???

Jeg

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21515 on: April 23, 2014, 03:34:37 PM »
Jeg


This is all true, except missing one important factor. Try to connect a load across two (!) batteries terminal, like for example take 9V battery and 12V battery. Then try to connect bulb between 9V negative and 12V negative. What do you expect ? According to claim 12V negative terminal is more negative and there should be current flow ... ???

What do you expect to happen at an open circuit? Nothing! Attach both positive together and your lamp will shine with currents flowing as you said from less to more negative..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21516 on: April 23, 2014, 03:49:24 PM »
Jeg


This is all true, except missing one important factor. Try to connect a load across two (!) batteries terminal, like for example take 9V battery and 12V battery. Then try to connect bulb between 9V negative and 12V negative. What do you expect ? According to claim 12V negative terminal is more negative and there should be current flow ... ???

As a kid I did that with many batteries, and it works with some.
I'll try again soon.

forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21517 on: April 23, 2014, 10:27:18 PM »
What do you expect to happen at an open circuit? Nothing! Attach both positive together and your lamp will shine with currents flowing as you said from less to more negative..


correct
it ends up with what Steven Mark said, what Tesla mentioned... you can have inside circuit any kind of currents flowing - each related only to his own power supply... got it !????? I already explained it in 2009 but on another forum...you cannot do work using electricity in open circuit and you cannot "pseudo-connect" to other source potential no matter how big difference in positive or negative range you expect... that's the missing factor, don't expect it to work if you don't know the return path, if you don't see the whole closed circuit... just think about it

forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21518 on: April 23, 2014, 10:40:10 PM »


How can I possibly address what you said when it does not relate what I said ?

I suggest a re-read.

Regards...

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Wesley Translate's Akula video #16: Akula's TPU part 5   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpx1SJdXnmo&feature=youtu.be       

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What I 'm trying to say is that people often do not respect something they got for nothing, without hard work and paying. For you it is a good idea to share on open forum every detail, but for person who spent 5, 10, 15 years and expect kind of simple reward like ability to work on invention with supporting team , lab, grants - it's a bad choice. Most of inventors I heard kept invention details in secret due to repetitive attempts to rip them off, to replace them by scientists in  controlled envinronment. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment...

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21519 on: April 23, 2014, 11:01:53 PM »

What I 'm trying to say is that people often do not respect something they got for nothing, without hard work and paying. For you it is a good idea to share on open forum every detail, but for person who spent 5, 10, 15 years and expect kind of simple reward like ability to work on invention with supporting team , lab, grants - it's a bad choice. Most of inventors I heard kept invention details in secret due to repetitive attempts to rip them off, to replace them by scientists in  controlled envinronment. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment...



Thats OK, I have been known to be a little cryptic my own self from time to time.

Further to your point though, those people who so jealously guard their discoveries tightly until death do not realize that they would have the whole world owing them a comfortable life if they were to freely release their findings.

They would be treated like royalty where ever they traveled...all expenses paid of course.

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forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21520 on: April 23, 2014, 11:11:47 PM »


Thats OK, I have been known to be a little cryptic my own self from time to time.

Further to your point though, those people who so jealously guard their discoveries tightly until death do not realize that they would have the whole world owing them a comfortable life if they were to freely release their findings.

They would be treated like royalty where ever they traveled...all expenses paid of course.

Regards...


Ha! That's unnecessary!  ;D  I bet most of them do not want to move from the place they live. They want to work hard but be just heard and supported. Look for Tariel Kapanadze for example, he invented so many useful devices without a scope , much more then anybody who can buy new scope model each month. Yet , I think nobody proposed to him : I will give you nice scope and teach you how to use it so you may develop better , safer invention. I don't get all this situation around the world...I see plenty valuable inventors having free energy devices, yet in road of giving it to the people something is failing every time  >:(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21521 on: April 24, 2014, 06:17:45 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hVMPRLHpKQ&feature=youtu.be


Wesleys News video#1 of Ruslan Kalabuhov Free Energy





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Jeg

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21522 on: April 24, 2014, 08:58:28 AM »

correct
it ends up with what Steven Mark said, what Tesla mentioned... you can have inside circuit any kind of currents flowing - each related only to his own power supply... got it !????? I already explained it in 2009 but on another forum...you cannot do work using electricity in open circuit and you cannot "pseudo-connect" to other source potential no matter how big difference in positive or negative range you expect... that's the missing factor, don't expect it to work if you don't know the return path, if you don't see the whole closed circuit... just think about it

I feel that you have a point but i don't get it! Do you consider that our electric-magnetic circuits being float in this big tank of energy are different systems between each other with no in and out paths? We are talking about the same quality of energy in and out of our circuits. what flows in the wire is the same to what flows outside of it. Give positive (current) and you take voltage. Give negative (voltage) and you take current. I think that is all. And if it isn't like that, at least it works for me as a circuit design consideration. When we use positive we spend current to the environment. When we use the negative side, current flows in.

 A two ground or a ground and aerial system are the 'in' and 'out' paths. Unidirectional pulses and diodes are necessary. In the same wire you can not have voltage and current flowing to one direction at the same time. This is a conflict that makes the ground useless. Output points with different phases have to have different grounds or else the pump can not work efficiently.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21523 on: April 24, 2014, 12:25:51 PM »
@jeg, thanks for reply, so a simple diagram should explain what everyone is trying to acheive ? nearly all experimenters have dozens of coils and transformers and components that just need to be connected in the correct order. Once the order is known then a few hours and all should work,after all we are only talking about a handful of parts.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21524 on: April 24, 2014, 04:33:56 PM »
@jeg, thanks for reply, so a simple diagram should explain what everyone is trying to acheive ? nearly all experimenters have dozens of coils and transformers and components that just need to be connected in the correct order. Once the order is known then a few hours and all should work,after all we are only talking about a handful of parts.


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Keith

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I am not an OU expert. I am just trying to find a right way of thinking. In fact I still pay huge bills for electricity to energy companies as the most of us here!
Many drawings in the net like don Smith's Accula's and so many others. Did you give them a try?
Jeg :)