User Menu

OU Shop

hho-dry-cell

Kindle Fire

Menu

Ebay offers

new products

water car

run car with water

ufomovie.info

ufomovie.info

sky energy

movieclipsfree

movie clips free

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 310300
  • *Total Topics: 10453
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 40
  • *Guests: 401
  • *Total: 441

Great Hosting

Get Monetized

* Google Search

Custom Search

Author Topic: I see an economic diasater coming...  (Read 181547 times)

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2430 on: February 21, 2012, 04:00:31 PM »
The latest news from Greece   http://finance.yahoo.com/news/relief-vies-sense-shame-streets-115459251.html  triffid




ATHENS (Reuters) - Greeks resigned themselves on Tuesday to a 130-billion-euro EU/IMF bailout that won their country a last-minute reprieve from bankruptcy at the price of a decade of austerity and humiliating foreign scrutiny of national finances.[/size]
Agreements among euro zone ministers during all-night talks in Brussels secured a second rescue package since 2010 in return for a new round of spending cuts that have already cost thousands of jobs and eroded public services.[/size]
Relief mingled with a sense of shame on the streets of Athens as Greeks who in two months could be choosing a new government digested what the deal means for a country now being treated as the sick patient of the 17-nation currency union.[/size]

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2430 on: February 21, 2012, 04:00:31 PM »
Sponsored links:


Offline the_big_m_in_ok

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1704
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2431 on: February 22, 2012, 12:17:29 AM »
The latest news from Greece   http://finance.yahoo.com/news/relief-vies-sense-shame-streets-115459251.html  triffid
ATHENS (Reuters) - Greeks resigned themselves on Tuesday to a 130-billion-euro EU/IMF bailout that won their country a last-minute reprieve from bankruptcy at the price of a decade of austerity and humiliating foreign scrutiny of national finances.[/size]
They (the Greeks) did it again.   ::)     This cannot go on if those like the Chinese, or else other creditors, get fed up with the goings-on of they who live beyond their means.

Even "Dr. No" predicts the dollar will be worth "2 or 3 cents" by "Autumn".   I said a collapse is coming and now he implies the same thing?   ???

Nothing to do but wait.   I have a place to live now, so at least I'm not out in the cold sleeping under a bridge.   A lot more people may not be so lucky this "Autumn", as the "good" Dr. says.

--Lee

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2431 on: February 22, 2012, 12:17:29 AM »

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2432 on: February 22, 2012, 01:08:44 AM »
For a five dollar donation you can help man start mining the moon for water by the year2020.Bill Stone is the man  to do this.
http://www.rockethub.com/projects/3822-shackleton-energy-company-propellant-depots
triffid

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2433 on: February 22, 2012, 01:11:05 AM »
The reason that we are doing it is that international government-sponsored space programs do not have the funds, the mandate for commercialization or the risk models to affordably conduct the mission.  It is now totally appropriate for industry (SEC) to step in to complete the final steps to success and to service these nations and others as customers of SEC products in space. Funding for our program will not come from governments or traditional investment, but a combination of private, mining and energy derived sources.[/font][/size]

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2433 on: February 22, 2012, 01:11:05 AM »

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2434 on: February 24, 2012, 08:05:16 PM »
With the price of gas predicted to go up to six dollars a gallon here in the USA come the following predictions.
More used cars not selling,fewer oil changes ,less business at auto part stores,more people riding mopeds.More bicycles.
 
For me.I just stay home more.triffid

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1704
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2435 on: February 27, 2012, 06:25:00 PM »
With the price of gas predicted to go up to six dollars a gallon here in the USA come the following predictions.
More used cars not selling,fewer oil changes ,less business at auto part stores,more people riding mopeds.More bicycles.
 
For me.I just stay home more.triffid
They can't eat a gold coin or bar.  Look:
http://news.yahoo.com/greek-banks-continue-hemorrhage-deposits-ecb-data-104757174.html

http://news.yahoo.com/germans-overwhelmingly-oppose-greek-bailout-poll-141634352.html
(The Greeks did only buy themselves some more time.   Their original problem remains unchanged:  They continue to borrow money and their banks are still experiencing a quiet run on their deposits.) 

This won't go away until someone takes a severe 'haircut' and cuts their losses to get rid of bad loans on banks' books now.   Europe would probably experience another recession as a result, however.

--Lee

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2435 on: February 27, 2012, 06:25:00 PM »
Sponsored links:


Offline the_big_m_in_ok

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1704
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2436 on: February 28, 2012, 09:57:45 PM »
... http://news.yahoo.com/germans-overwhelmingly-oppose-greek-bailout-poll-141634352.html
(The Greeks did only buy themselves some more time.   Their original problem remains unchanged:  They continue to borrow money and their banks are still experiencing a quiet run on their deposits.) 
...
I may not have done them any good.   Moody's or S&P downgraded Greece's rating to "selective default"
Thusly:   http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2012/02/29/2003526601
Okay, this isn't very good, to say the least.   People can assume the worst and it can happen.   Whether or not the rest of Europe or Asia thinks this is as serious as some may think, remains to be seen.   But default on worthless bonds that cannot be used for collateral is a potential game changer.
Quote
...
This won't go away until someone takes a severe 'haircut' and cuts their losses to get rid of bad loans on banks' books now.   Europe would probably experience another recession as a result, however.
This may be 'in the cards', 'down the road', so to speak.   Things and scenarios will need to finalize before further developments continue downhill.
 
--Lee

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2436 on: February 28, 2012, 09:57:45 PM »

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2437 on: February 29, 2012, 06:18:23 PM »
I have not known what to post here the last two or three days.According to Ron Paul hotline 1-888-322-1414. Greek style riots are so close to coming to the usa they may be here by summer.The USA Government wants to raise dividend taxes up to 45% from 15% by 2013.So A lot of stuff is going to hit the fan real soon.Better be in a position to duck some of it.triffid

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2437 on: February 29, 2012, 06:18:23 PM »

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2438 on: February 29, 2012, 06:22:43 PM »
When Ron Paul predicts terrible things coming.Then I fear more than usual.triffid




Our government wants to raise taxes to raise money.They want to raise corporate taxes.More unemployment will be coming as a result as more money flees the usa for safer shores.

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2438 on: February 29, 2012, 06:22:43 PM »

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1704
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2439 on: February 29, 2012, 06:31:05 PM »
When Ron Paul predicts terrible things coming.Then I fear more than usual.triffid
Yeah, I have a place now.   At the end of the building is a martial arts dojo.   I night join.   People like me with Asperger's syndrome should know how to defend themselves against bullies.

--Lee

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2439 on: February 29, 2012, 06:31:05 PM »
Sponsored links:


Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2440 on: March 04, 2012, 12:08:08 AM »
Some good news I guess .It looks like greece will get get its deal next week.   http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iifs-dallara-says-confident-greek-192929433.html  triffid

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2440 on: March 04, 2012, 12:08:08 AM »

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2441 on: March 04, 2012, 12:09:29 AM »
ATHENS (Reuters) - The chief negotiator for the body representing private sector holders of Greek bonds expressed confidence on Saturday that a bond swap deal which is a key part of Greece's bailout program would be completed successfully next week.[/size]
"We can sense in our discussions with investors that momentum is building," Charles Dallara, managing director of the International Institute of Finance (IIF), told Greece's Antenna television in an interview.[/size]
"I'm quite optimistic that the participation levels will be quite high," he said, but he declined to predict a figure.[/size]

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1704
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2442 on: March 04, 2012, 01:37:51 AM »
ATHENS (Reuters) - The chief negotiator for the body representing private sector holders of Greek bonds expressed confidence on Saturday that a bond swap deal which is a key part of Greece's bailout program would be completed successfully next week.[/size]
"We can sense in our discussions with investors that momentum is building," Charles Dallara, managing director of the International Institute of Finance (IIF), told Greece's Antenna television in an interview.[/size]
"I'm quite optimistic that the participation levels will be quite high," he said, but he declined to predict a figure.[/size]
Not all of the article was included.   Thusly:
"Bondholders have until March 8 to sign up to the agreement under which they will exchange their existing Greek government bonds for new paper in a swap deal that will see the nominal value of their holdings cut by 53.5 percent.              Failure to secure a deal with private sector creditors would threaten the 130-billion-euro bailout package agreed last month with the European Central Bank, the European Union and the International Monetary Fund. Greece has said it would not be obliged to go through with the arrangement unless it gets 90 percent participation. If participation is below 90 percent but above 75 percent, it would consult with its public sector creditors.              Assuming a sufficient number of investors accept the deal, European leaders should give final approval to the bailout in a teleconference on March 9. Dallara said that any deal contained at least some risk of failure but he said the danger facing the bond swap deal, reached only after months of tortuous negotiations, was slight. He also played down concerns that the debt restructuring could trigger credit default swap contracts that some investors took out to protect themselves against the risk of default.              The International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA), the body which rules on whether a so-called "credit event" that would trigger the CDS has occurred, decided on Thursday that Greece had not breached the terms of the insurance contracts.              Under the deal, private sector bondholders will be forced to accept a loss while Greece's public sector creditors will not and despite Thursday's ruling, investors could seek a further ruling from the ISDA that could trigger a CDS payout.              However, Dallara said he did not believe the CDS issue would derail the bond swap. "Of course, any individual investor may well ask for another ruling at some point. But this again does not trouble me and does not present a hurdle, ' " he said.




It's still not a done deal if the other countries might think this financial stunt won't stop the Greek financial decline.   I  did say someone has to take "a haircut", and this would be it.   Will it help?   We'll see eventually.

--Lee

Online triffid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3160
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2443 on: March 05, 2012, 04:49:27 AM »
http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/brynjolfsson-cuggino-on-bonds-oil-strategy/w5a50nkVV0DzN6sJ9oCJEA  here they talk about greece a little.About a controlled default???As if you can control one?triffid

Free Energy - Freie Energie - energia libre - OverUnity.com

Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2443 on: March 05, 2012, 04:49:27 AM »

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1704
Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #2444 on: March 05, 2012, 06:25:37 AM »
http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/brynjolfsson-cuggino-on-bonds-oil-strategy/w5a50nkVV0DzN6sJ9oCJEA  here they talk about greece a little.About a controlled default???As if you can control one?triffid



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/04/greek-debt-crisis-factory-worker_n_1318730.html

There's other articles as severe out there, I'm sure.   I might look for more.

--Lee

 

Make Money Online MoneyWorkHome.com

Money Work Home Make Money Online

Ebay offers