magpwr if someone actually succeeded in reproducing against Stan Meyer's claims, then where is the machine?  There's no shortage of people anxious to reproduce those claims. The YT video showed current but not voltage or power, and did not show gas volume evolved.  There's no way to tell if it's efficiency was good or bad.

Tom, I am with you.  A judge found he scammed a pair of his investors , and no one has been able to reproduce what he claimed.  Still, faith runs eternal.  Even John Rohner still has some people giving him money.

There are people in Australia and New Zealand who would beg to differ, and claim that they were freely given Stan's schematics and instructed by Stan himself when he came to New Zealand, and are successfully running systems in their cars. I will not post links. I will not post claims. They are out there. And for every claim, there is someone to disprove it.
 In the end, it may come down to their words against yours and those of the legal system.
I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree.
Bob

Bob, stories that can't be verified are just stories.

I have difficulty with the logic of a story that says someone or some people have  something of immense value but restrict themselves to exploiting only a small value out of it.  If the idea is that these people are scared of big oil henchmen, then why undertake risk for a small return?  If the scheme worked, small scale use wouldn't remove the threat to big oil interests.  The threat would exist as long as anyone knew how to practice the discovery.  And if there are big oil henchmen out there for you to fear, why would you publicly announce here that you have information that they would want to suppress?  That just doesn't make sense to me. 

What does make sense to me is that people like to tell fictional stories.  When someone makes a big claim but offers no supporting evidence, I can't think of any good reason to take the claim seriously.

Bob, stories that can't be verified are just stories.

I have difficulty with the logic of a story that says someone or some people have  something of immense value but restrict themselves to exploiting only a small value out of it.  If the idea is that these people are scared of big oil henchmen, then why undertake risk for a small return?  If the scheme worked, small scale use wouldn't remove the threat to big oil interests.  The threat would exist as long as anyone knew how to practice the discovery.  And if there are big oil henchmen out there for you to fear, why would you publicly announce here that you have information that they would want to suppress?  That just doesn't make sense to me. 

What does make sense to me is that people like to tell fictional stories.  When someone makes a big claim but offers no supporting evidence, I can't think of any good reason to take the claim seriously.

I respect you Mark, and your right to disbelief until what you deem solid proof is demonstrated. That's a basic, logical right that should be accorded everyone, as is my right to disagree.
Bob

A contradiction that is frequently encountered with extraordinary claims is that some of the very same people who go to lengths to promote the claims simultaneously insist that the information must be kept secret.    An alternate term for such claims is: myths.

Does this mean that you have a working OU electrolysis set-up such as Stan Meyer claimed?

If you do not have such a set-up, then on what basis do you claim that:

The "secret" to Meyer's discovery is certainly not secret;
it has been revealed in several of the echo chambers but
has been largely obscured by noise.  Those who have made
their own devices freely share the knowledge amongst
themselves and their associates who are sincere and trusted.

HI SeaMonkey,

"It is not strictly electrolysis.", this is just off the wall theories other then electrolysis.

First of all, if you can't backup your claims, then you just look foolish like Stan Meyer did.

Stan's PWM was a simple motor speed controller to control the amps going into the cell, nothing special.

Why I even question these HHO scams, got me. But sometime you have to challenge people theories!

I would ask that anyone who make this claims, prove them!

This forum on scam artist Stan Meyer's is a joke!

It will all be revealed in due time.  Freely.

For the time being only those who are deemed
worthy will be invited into the fold.  It is the very
carefully considered decision of the committee.
There are valid reasons for the selectivity.

Sadly, there are not many in this forum who
will be invited.  Possibly none.

Pay attention to what is being discussed in the
appropriate thread and comprehension may take
root.

Simplicity is key.