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[Pontifex]

Hi folks,

I did not know where to post this finding on google video. Stefan, please feel free to move it elsewhere.

"Utterly amazing free energy device. This machine consists of just two rods of each slightly different elements, and provides power day and night by completely unknown means." One rod is said to be made of 73 different elements, the other one is said to be made of 74 elements. Hoax ?

Part 1:     http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-635987818295327978
Part 2:     http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4298347669641896403

Nutrino circuit consists of two rods about 3 inches long (see the first picture below). The device consists of the two posts, a wooden base, two terminals and a switch. One of the rods consists of 73 elements and the other rod contains 74. The earth is stuck by particles from space all the time called nutrinos. When nutrinos strike one of the rods it causes a negative charge to build up. The second picture to the shows three Christmas tree lights being illuminated by the rods. These rods put out about 18 watts of power. This device has been used to charge batteries in a cave hundreds of feet below the ground.

http://www.innovativetech.us/FutureProd-sp.htm

*****

Besides they claim having built a PMM ("Sundance Generator") consisting of coils on disks http://www.innovativetech.us/GenFront.htm. Pretty odd that they want to use a motor to drive the generator that is said to "produce as much as 40 times more output energy than electricity that is used to power it."

(http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3376/sundanceqw9.jpg)

!Caution regarding business practice!

Greetz, Pontifex

[NerzhDishual]

Hi clever guys

I had collected, a couple of years ago, all the informations I could get about these mysterious "Neutrino Rods". Please see: http://freenrg.fr/JapRod/

Some of the files are in French but most are in English.
Sounds like a Japanese compagny were selling this kinda stuff (though it is not
the ones you can see on the vids).

The file "EnergyReceiver.zip" is from this compagny.
It is in Japanese language, but not the pics ).
Anyway this document has been translated in English (japtrans.htm).

I had tried to get in touch with this compagny but they do (did?) not speak
English and my phone calls were promply shortened. )

Best

[pese]

@pontifex
thankfor the link (2 roads)
that i see 3 years ago in somes www.url?s 
 also in keelynet it was described and linked.
with many photos . catalogus an pricelists for
the300 watt and 900 watt apparatus (device)
in short time , all was delete , also in archive.org.
The device  was made from an japanese company ,
but free energy is not welcome !! .
energy suppliers are interested to sell energy.
the money must go round ! All have "hard" to work
to pay this own needed energie bill?s

This is fact
Pese

P.S.
Jes Nerzh..
this was that , that i was looking for.
(but its modified on 11.Nov2006 - and some
informations and pic?s are now out ..


Keelnet also deleted  information ,for
this jap.roads , years ago.

Very interesting , i think not a rubbish,

the altenery.com information , most is not to use.
i folowed this over years

[stonrman401]

This all seems very interesting.

What does he mean by elements? Which elements? How were these rods made? Could anyone do it? Someone with a few hundred bucks? Few thousand?

Talk about magic, this is interesting indeed.

[tao]

Hey guys, all those files, research, and english translations on http://freenrg.fr/JapRod ARE FROM MY RESEARCHES in 2003!

It's funny that now people are looking at them again!, lol, all those files were written by me, tao, aka, youhavetoremember.......


Anyway, here was a post I did at OVERUNITY.COM just some months ago!



<hr>


I promised the info on these rod devices before, and now I will deliver.

Below are various messages and even the translated japanese handouts(which I had a japanese friend of mine do for me).

Here is an excerpt from the below info:

here is an update from a friend in Japan who has CALLED the company who made the rod-generator:
"Then I called after a long time to ERR Co,. 
It seems to change from the rod shape to the film shape, because the 
yield of the product(baking of the rod) was bad and it does not 
become business. 
Now they try to make the film-generator of the same principle. 
It has not commercialized yet. The person in the agency seems to be 
able to obtain it in the stage of the prototype.
That's all I heard from them. The ERR Co,. is in holiday now. They 
seems to be opened from the 18th August."



This one from a Japanese man who gave the free energy community a heads up about the Japanese rods.

Hi Oriharu et al!

Thanks for the heads up about the new solar battery generator in Japan!

> $B%*%j%O%k(B wrote:
>
Dear Jerry Decker & KeelyNet.

Hello. This is news in Japa.

Rod-Generator has invented in Japan!   It's detailed principle (but
collector of electromagnetic wave) and detailed material (but
it is made of ceramic) is not open yet.
 
> The news was  on "Nikkan Kohgyoh Newspapers" p27, 03/26/2002 in Japan.
>
> Company's name : ERR Co. (They has not Home Page)
> Address             : 2-11-18, Tomioka, Kohtoh-ku, Tokyo, Japan
> Phone               : 03-3630-1901 (Japan)
> Fax                   : 03-3630-1905 (Japan)
>
> The appearance is two rods in parallel.    One rod is 1cm diameter
> and 10cm long (very small).   This "Solar Battery" generates 300W
> (output).   They claimed as it is same as Solar Battery.   It collect
> electromagnetic wave (light) from infrared to ultraviolet.   Perhaps it
> collect energy until X-ray level frequency.
>
> This Generator will sell from June (this year).  The system has stabilizer
> and inverter.   It's price is 150,000 (300W type).   About $1,250.
>
> Near future, 900W type and 5KW type will line up.
>
> That's all detail information. Thank you.
>
>
> from oriharu:
> My page : http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~oriharu/

> Free Energy page is : http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~oriharu/efe.htm

>
----------------------
While I was looking for this Japanese newspaper, Oriharu sent the following
URL;

http://www.nikkan.co.jp/hln/index_e.html


It shows like the following line but they want bucks to translate to
English;

[9] ISHII HYOKI to begin manufacturing and sales of solar battery wafer

I couldn't find anything else out about this....Thanks Oriharu!

These from and about Don Smith relating to the Japanese rods AND Neutrino Videos

-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Smith [mailto:donsm1@e...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 April 2004 12:07 AM
To: free-energy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [free-energy] Neutrino rods videos posted

Robin ,

I have business interest in Japan . The first ones I physically had contact with were at a Dennis Lee presentation at Austin Texas 3 years ago . The source is from Patent issued and assigned to the US Government . The Rod business is a decoy to hide the real function , which is a replacement for solar cells . The difference being captures the 24 hour a day radiant energy , and each cell puts out 35 watts of useful energy which is several times that of a solar cell . It's a ceramic material and not difficult to make . An American from NASA quit his job , went to the Philippines , got a Japanese partner and took a Patent there . They opened up business there and sold a very large amount of stock . Yes it works as presented except for the NEUTRINO GIMMICK . Let Me point out that no single cell battery or solar cell can equal this . Not only that , they do not deplete . Several of them together and You are in business . Best Regards , Don Smith

AND

Whizard wrote:
This is the same device that Don Smith said he built and is having
someone in Japan or China build and market it I believe. There are
not 73 and 74 elements on each of the rods - these are the numbers
from the Periodic table of Elements relating to the two elements used
- which are Tantalum and Tungsten - elements 73 and 74 from the
Periodic table of elements. Very interesting info as I seem to
recall knowing one of the rods was Tungsten but didn't know what the
other one was. It seems to make sense.

Messages about the rods

I have come across 3 diversely different things over the past
month, diverse in where they come from, not how they function. Allow me to
explain...

I first read about the Tesla's faimed, real or not, test runs with
his cosmic powered electric car in the 30s as was very intrigued as
I am sure anyone who read it was. Anyway, having no other information
concerning the subject no one could really do or say much about it in
terms of how it functioned or how it was made.

Fast forward to last week...
I came across this post to KeelyNet from 2002:
http://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet/m12300.html
here are some excerpts:
"Rod-Generator has invented in Japan! It's detailed principle (but
collector of electromagnetic wave) and detailed material (but it is
made of ceramic) is not open yet."
"The appearance is two rods in parallel. One rod is 1cm diameter
and 10cm long (very small). This "Solar Battery" generates 300W
(output). They claimed as it is same as Solar Battery. It collect
electromagnetic wave (light) from infrared to ultraviolet.Perhaps it
collect energy until X-ray level frequency."
etc..etc..

Now, I followed the article to the poster's webpage and came across
a picture, although faint, of the "rod-generator":
http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~oriharu/image/rodgene.JPG
this appears to be very similar to the description of the supposed
Tesla cosmic powered device used in the electric car.

Fast forward to yesterday...

I came across a small real video showing a "Neutrino Demo":
http://www.ucsofa.com/videos/nutrino.ram
Watch the video!

In this demo they show a device which looks EXACTLY the same as the
device in the Japanese pic except it's just the bare rods on a wood
board. In the video they state/show, among other things: how he rods
power two different loads, christmas lights, and a 25watt bulb. They
state the device runs on neutrinos and other cosmic rays that  constantly bombard the earth. They mention how one rod is composed of
73 elements whereas the other rod is made of 74 elements, the difference of elements causes one rod to be (+) and one to be (-). The small model in this video puts out 18W and is cold to the touch.

Now, they reason I am posting is because I believe the devices built
by all 3 peoples to be highly similar in design and operation. They
all involve 2 rods, one negative, one positive, they both output
steady power with heat buildup, etc...

I felt this to be the best forum to post this on. I feel we can
figure out exactly what is involved in these devices and that we can
bring them out of the underground.

ANY help or information concerning this matter is greatly appreciated!

If you know anything or anyway we can reverse engineer these
devices based on the knowledge presented let us know. As I write this I am
continuing my search to learn more about the potential elements
involved in the rods, how neutrinos and such function, etc.

AND

The FACTS I now about this "rod" generator are:
1. I have seen 2 distinct PICTURED references to their existance. 
Japan and those real video vids.

2. Both devices seem to run on "neutrino power". The Device in the 
real video vids is said to runn off the neutrinos and other waves. 
The device from Japan is said to run off the infrared<->ultraviolet 
spectrums, which is IN the neutrino range 

3. Both devices are of the SAME dimensions.

4. The device in the real video vids is said to be made of 73 
elements in one rod and 74 in the other. The generator from Japan is 
made of a "ceramic" material that is "baked".

5. Both output continuous wattages indefinitely.

6. The "rod-generator" company in Japan's information:
Company's name: ERR Co. (They don't have a website)
Address: 2-11-18, Tomioka, Kohtoh-ku, Tokyo, Japan
Phone: 03-3630-1901 (Japan)
Fax: 03-3630-1905 (Japan)
 

here is an update from a friend in Japan who has CALLED the company 
who made the rod-generator:
"Then I called after a long time to ERR Co,. 
It seems to change from the rod shape to the film shape, because the 
yield of the product(baking of the rod) was bad and it does not 
become business. 
Now they try to make the film-generator of the same principle. 
It has not commercialized yet. The person in the agency seems to be 
able to obtain it in the stage of the prototype.
That's all I heard from them. The ERR Co,. is in holiday now. They 
seems to be opened from the 18th August."
 

Now, if we have two distinct people who have produced these rod 
generators that means at least 2 people in the world know how to make 
them ;p. Add to that the fact that the company from Japan has made 
MANY prototypes and models! in their factories. So all their 
employees know how to make them. 

If we really dig and reverse engineer this phenomenon we can do it!

Here are the translations of the pages below:(currently only pages 1-5, I can pull up the rest if you guys want them........just let me know)

Here is the translation from my Japanese friend:
"
OK! I try to translate from the first three. 
==============================
1.jpg:

There is a caracter(subject) "A DREAM GENERATOR" on "MARKET".
There is a caracter(company's name) "Gabriel Market Company" 
under "MARKET".
================================
2.jpg: There is not Japanese text.
================================
3.jpg:

Concept of New Photoelectromotive Force Technology
Electromagnetic Radiation Receiver 

The electromagnetic radiation receiver operates by a similar  mechanism to the solar panel. In the solar panel, it has been used  all over the world as one energy source, and the mechanism is  evidence. The one using a photoelectric effect. Working to which the  electron the metal and in the semiconductor is liberated by optical  energy and an electromagnetic radiation is called a photoelectric  effect. 

There are three different phenomena in a photoelectric effect. The  photoelectromotive force to an optical discharge and the  photoconduction deflecting. Among these, the most important one is a  photovoltaic effect. The photoelectromotive force cell is the one  that the diode structure of solid-state was built into all aspects on  the silicon wafer. The layer on the surface is a structure  transparent as light reaches a sandwich silicon joint part very  thinly. The photon (photon) is absorbed in the joint part, and the 
electron in the atomic uniting part is pulled out. As a result, the  free charge of the pair of electron-hole is invented. This free  charge moves to both sides in the joint part, improves the charge  density, and raises the voltage of the joint part. 
 

The photovoltaic effect completely needs neither the voltage nor the  current from the outside compared with the other two effects, and  converts the energy of light directly into the electric power. The  most general one of the photovoltaic effect is a solar cell.  On the other hand, if light mutually hits two insulated silicon  wafers, the area where the electron is on the other hand excessive  the electron the area insufficient is invented. Differing shape 
basically invents the electron as for my electromagnetic radiation  receiver by the same reason as the solar cell. 

The stem. 
If a basic function and the mechanism of the solar panel can be  understood, it is easy to understand working of the electromagnetic  radiation receiver. However, a point which is greatly different from  that of solar is 24 day hours, and the points with sensitivity in  which the electromagnetic radiation spectrum from a wide area to the  area of infrared rays ,that is, from ultraviolet rays which pours  down over the earth the set of the sun later is received. Some 1000  stars which twinkle to night sky.

The all poured and earth Takashi  had poured electromagnetic energy of the infrared rays area from  ultraviolet rays for the past several billion years. Therefore, the  electromagnetic radiation receiver has the function to invent the  electron at nighttime.  I had searching researched the method of collecting the energy of the  electron from a wide area of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum  for the past 22 years. The result is a solar energy system of a new  type of electromagnetic radiation receiver.  The basic mineral used in the electromagnetic radiation receiver  behaves as if the charge which moves in the electrical conduction,  and plays the role to produce the cloud of a free electron. The  energy barrier on the surface confines the electron in the 
electromagnetic radiation receiver. However, when the speed toward  energy or outside of the electron increases enough, the electron is  discharged into the space. This electron calls necessary amount of  energy for the space to  discharge a work function, and is expressed  by the following expression. 

E=W

The electron is not discharged into the space, and at largeness,  discharged if the energy of Hica (photon) is smaller than that of  this value. The energy of the electron at this time uses the  expression in Einstein's photoelectric effect. 

E=hv=W+1/2mW

It is shown. The amount whose energy of the photon is larger than  that of E=W becomes kinetic energy (1/2mW) of the electron. The  photon is given all energy and disappears. h is a constant which is  basic of a physical law (quantum mechanics). 
==========================================
4.jpg:
 

No basic idea of my electromagnetic radiation receiver (ERR) is new.  Nicola Tesra which invents the exchange system calls the free energy  receiver in 1901, a similar technology is developed, and the patent  is obtained. It has agreed exactly in the point to use the  photoelectromotive force though the invention of Tesra is greatly  different from today's. The most remarkable difference is a point  that today's solar panel is composed of the base of the crystal  silicon: Amorphous is used very recently. However, it is thought the  free energy receiver that Tesra invented to was the one that the  plate of a thin metal was coated with a transparent insulation thing,  and spreading today's plastic. 

The higher, the more efficiency improves when the panel is put up in  the air as well as the antenna. It is connected wires from a part of  the panel to a part of the capacitor, and other terminals of the  capacitor are grounded. Energy from the sun is charged to the  capacitor. The load is connected from the capacitor through the  switch circuit, and an electric output is obtained as the capacitor  repeats the electrical charge and discharge at a constant cycle. The  output obtained by of course the area of the insulation panel large  is large. 

Tesra tries the explanation how this method to obtain energy is easy.  The device of Tesra is more than the solar panel. The reason for it  is that energy can be taken out at nighttime when the sun hid the  face. The free energy receiver of Tesra is obtaining the patent  as "Device using the radiation" in 1901. It is possible to touch  about other radiations 1 like not only solar energy but also cosmic  rays in that. It is described that the device can actually take out  energy by cosmic rays even at nighttime. Tesra touches a huge storing  warehouse of negative electricity of the earth, too. 
==========================================
5.jpg:

Is an electromagnetic radiation harmful?

It is harmless at all. There is a thing to sometimes wake up people's  uneasiness due to the lack of Shitataca to the radiation. Then, the  radiation is indicated. 

The radiation appears while mediating the interaction between the  particle and wave motion. (That is, heat is conducted by the  discharge of energy, the spread, absorption, and the radiation. )The  radiation changes shape, and carries out various functions in that. 

The radiation is discharged from the material, and absorbed to the  material. As for the earth, had been done for the past several  billion years by the radiation from the sun. Therefore, the skin gets  burnt when is under sunshiny for a long time. Everyone is sure to  have the experience of sunburning through life once and twice. Still,  the radiation has poured down for 24 hours a day. On the other hand,  to avoid danger and to adapt oneself, the human race has evolved. Not  only the wave of the radiation but also we get corpuscle rain done.  However, it is quite safe except the thing that the meteor falls to  the head.  However, the radiation from the high-voltage line is very dangerous 
as cancer and other sicknesses are caused. Model, and it is not a  radiation from the sky which causes what harm. It is a radiation to  be killing man that man produced. 

I think that it was able to understand the basis of the radiation.  Then, working of the electromagnetic radiation receiver is described.  First of all, let's explain from the word receiver. I want to  emphasize the thing like the one receiving it to the end the receiver  and no sent one, etc.The solar panel receives the light of the  frequency of the visible region, and produces electricity. The energy  of the frequency from the brushwood outside line on the both sides to  the area of infrared rays is received if not only the area of visible  light but also it says in the spectrum and electricity is produced 
though the electromagnetic radiation receiver works basically by the  same concept as it. It is time when makes to a high voltage with a  transformer and uses it in case of there is danger. It makes to high  voltage and the high frequency with the transformer and electricity  is transmitted to customer's place, and the electric power company  drops to the low pressure of 220V and, then, is using it. A high  frequency and a high voltage are harmful though 220V is not too  dangerous. If an easy test is done, it is understood soon whether a  harmful radiation has gone out of the high-tension wire of the  electrical machinery and apparatus and the ceiling in your house and  office. 

In the above-mentioned thing, I think that it canceled the fog of  uneasiness of the electromagnetic radiation receiver. 

Those who invent it Noazarc research foundation
Doctor of Engineering Ben Shuwalts
==========================================

Peace.................

tao

[111345]

 ::)The Electrinium Battery, this is probably it. The japs, naps (napzis, chim-panzis j/k) made a UFO drive using Geminized metal (compound that resembles precious stone and metal fused into one) bricks. Sometime after WW2. The Germans had UFOs before During and After WW2 I think. So did the French. And they didn't kill them selves If they messed up.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/free-energy/message/11489

Striking the quartz makes sense because those charcoal starters have a spring
mechanism that strikes a very small piece of quartz to produce the 7000V that
ignites the fuel in them. TT Brown wrote about getting electricity from common
rocks by striking them or was it without even striking them, I forget. I'm very
into these developments.

Shang Tsung

[energielibre]

Hi all, first post to me. i'm interesting in new ways of produce energy even if i do not know much about electronics, waves, magnetism, etc... i'm just a curious person. Like other i found theses two videos on Google, You tube, etc. It's always like that: when you don't know nothing about theses technologies you say "oh, my godness, it can solve the problems of the world!" But of course is not simple at all. I read many things past days on overunity forums and other web sites. It seems that many of technos of "free energy" are still hidden from the large audience. Maybe it's because "big evils oil groups" don't want to heard about it - but maybe it's just because it's don't work, or work only with precautions operated by technicians ( like we can find here and who, as i see, try to solve some problems with courage ). So, just for information i took a few hours to find some information about this "free energy elemental rod generator". Maybe you have theses informations, maybe not, so i can share it with you.
First at all thanks to TAO from freenrg.fr to put his files onto the net. Without theses files there be no information and the videos still remain like some secret thing without an author.

The videos are the part of a commercial video named "A case for free electricity" of Innovative Technologies Group, LLC who is the dealer of products for UCSA (United Community Services of America) owned by Dennis Lee. The thing is that in this video Dennis Lee present the "rods demonstration" like something secret and he says that he can't give more information about (he tell that with a malicious eye) - he just have a old VHS tape he put on Tv and say nothing more. It's seems like a trick to say "look, it's incredible, i have the holy grail of energy !".
If you read some things about this guy you will know that is very contreversial person.
The entire video can be viewed using Real Player by streaming here: http://ucsofa.com/videos/caseram2.ram
or directly donwloaded (30MB) here
http://ucsofa.com/videos/case2.rm.
This video is in the same folder on the net where Tao find the "nutrino demo" video. When you open the "clip info window" of the "nutrino demo" file you see that the real name of the file is "Nutrino Demonstration" and the author is J. Michael Hall. J. Michael Hall is a Texas distributor of Dennis Lee's products. You can read here:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002793694_dennislee08m.html
a paper where he talk about Dennis Lee.

Well that is for the first source of the video.

I read all the stuff put by Tao on the frenrg site. In the translation of the "energy receiver" document at the end you find this:

"Those who invent it Noazarc research foundation
Doctor of Engineering Ben Shuwalts"

Of course there is a problem with japanese to english translation. If you search for "Ben Shuwalts" on the web you will find nothing. The word "Noazarc" is incomprehensible at first look and you don't find something onto the net.

So i come back to the videos on Google Video ( links on the top of this topic ). By curiosity i  start to read the comments. And surprise: A guy named "Bill Lucas" says that he did theses videos but do not post them.
A guy named "BE" said this in one comment (incomplete): " I  personally met Dr. Schwartz in 1996 and personally inspected the device. I have 30 years electronics experience. The unit was checked with volt/amp and other meters. I also know Bill Lucas. I also know why the unit hasn't been put on the market." Then another guy "GP" write: "I was there with BE. I touched and handled the device that he is holding. I saw the top, bottom, and sides. I also took measurements on it."

ok, ok...

Well M.Shuwalts is maybe M.Schwartz ?

Take look on the web. After some researches, bingo: "Dr. James B. Schwartz" director of the "Noah's Ark Research Foundation " (Noazarc research foundation in the translation from japanese to english) web site here: http://www.freewebs.com/narfschwartz/.

And then look at this link: http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?ei=UTF-8&gid=158642&vid=185051&b=1

The author is : "jbschwartz" (James B. Schwartz)

If you hear his voice and look at his hand you will know that is the guy from the google video.

For the rods, did the japanese put them on market ?
In one comment of google video "BE" says: "I also know why the unit hasn't been put on the market
"

So this is it,

Bye

....Oh, and sorry for my english ! :-)

[tao]

Nice research, it looks like you found the missing person!

I knew that someday, those translations would come in handy!

Here is a link to the original rods video, parts 1 and 2 combined: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-562337656545887894

I looked at his recent videos again, and this is what Schwartz says about that last generator:

"It?s similar to Tom Bearden?s MEG except that it doesn?t need an external power supply to switch the magnetic fields. It uses a very powerful magnet with a special circuit board that contains a new hi-tech chip to switch the magnetic fields. It also contains ultra-thin graphite sheets called graphene. Using a very sensitive technique, we were able to separate the individual sheets of carbon atoms that are layered on top of one another in graphite. These layers are electrically conducting beca..."(it is cut off from more text for some reason.)


Has he found some way to alter magnetic fields with thin graphite sheets, via small inputs of energy? Or use those thin graphite sheets in some Casimir-ic way?

Interesting stuff.

Then again, it could be a con that has lasted over a decade.....

[energielibre]

Hi again,

nice to be helpful.

Just in case here are some still images from the original google video and the last yahoo video. This is just to show that between these two videos just two things change: no more clock and the ring on the right hand jump from one finger to another. The same things are: there is one ring for each hand (the same rings ?) and if you see, the position of the two hands in the "left google" image is almost the same that the right hand in the "right yahoo" image.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1108/963587526_41f87ca4b2.jpg?v=0)
"left google" image
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1417/963587534_9f50933b11.jpg?v=0)
"left yahoo" image
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1397/963587492_4483dd1b76.jpg?v=0)
"right google" image
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1075/963587508_f96b06ec93.jpg?v=0)
"right yahoo" image


Another thing: who are "BE", "GP" and "Bill Lucas" ? They post commentaries on one of the google video page...
Another thing more: "Electromagnetic Radiation Receiver" = ERR Co.

Bye

[Freezer]

@ Tao,

So after all your research, do you believe this could work?  73,74 are tantalum and tungsten, and he mention that another element is needed to complete it.  One thing which made me disbelieve this video, is the fact he rubs his hand over both the rods..and doesn't seem to feel a thing.

Good to have you here Tao, as I've read most of your posts, and you seem to want to help people and bring the free energy movement forward.