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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #105 on: September 06, 2007, 08:03:45 PM »
Hi Mikey,
many thanks for posting this article link !
I am just copying here now all the text files and the
pictures, cause Bob?s last site was deleted,
so we have it at least here to stay for protection !
I think this is the breakthrough we all have been waiting for and
Bob is the new Bessler of 2007 !

Here it is copied from:

http://www.thepost.ca/webapp/sitepages/content.asp?contentid=679901&catname=Local%20News&classif=News%20Live


Little Britain man turning gravity into power
'You can get off the grid with one of these': inventor

Jason Bain
Local News - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 Updated @ 4:44:19 PM

LINDSAY ? When he heard on television that gravity couldn't be used as a form of energy, Bob Kostoff set out to prove Discovery Channel wrong.

?I said, 'That doesn't make any sense,'? said the Little Britain resident, using dropping a cement brick from a standing height as an example.

If you were to place your hands a few centimeters off of the ground to try to stop it before it hits the ground, you wouldn't be able to because of the energy powering the bricks fall, he said last Friday.

With that concept in mind, Kostoff sought to make a 'perpetual motion machine' that could offer a clean, alternative source of power using gravity as 'fuel.'

After about four years of planning and development through trial and error ? including about a year-and-a-half creating the designs on paper - Kostoff reached his goal.


He now owns the patent on the technology to prove it.

The result was 'The Gravity Powered Machine.' The self-sustaining engine provides as little as 10 foot-pounds of torque or as much as hundreds, Kostoff said, adding how its cost is less than half of a small wind turbine.

The machine ? which only requires a little bit of start-up juice before it creates enough power to sustain itself - works much like a teeter-totter, using a series of sliding weights that, with the help of the earths gravitational pull, force the unit to continue spinning around in a circle.

Install a series of magnets in the unit and tens of thousands of watts of electricity can be produced, an amount that depends on the size of the actual machine.

?You can get off the hydro grid with one of these,? Kostoff told The Lindsay Post.

So far, about five of the units have been made. Once he got the concept down, he said he began fine-tuning the more cosmetic aspects of the machine, such as reducing noise.

?Once you figure it out, it's just about perfecting it,? he said.

A former employee of Matthews Conveyor who also ran his own computer stores in Lindsay and Port Perry, Kostoff hopes his new invention will eliminate the need for fossil fuels.

The machines can be used in a variety of applications, Kostoff said, because they produce electricity at no cost.

For example, he said the units can be used to generate the power needed for electrolysis, a process that creates hydrogen, a ?free fuel? that could be used to power your personal vehicle.

For more information on the gravity powered engine, or to see a video of it in action, visit www.newsourceofenergy.com




NEW SOURCE of ENERGY

Gravity Powered Engine
   
? New source of energy
? Powered by gravity
? Needs no fuel to run

   
Introduction
This engine is a self sustaining gravity powered unit. It produces all the
energy needed to run a generator large enough to provide power for
all the hydro and heat needed for your home. This patented system
can be as small as producing 10 foot pounds of torque or as much as
over 300 foot pounds of torque.
Each unit is approximately 8 feet by 4 feet by 6 feet tall and is totally
enclosed for safely protection against moving parts.
This new engine is the product of years of research, frustration and
perseverance. I found that using the perpetual motion approach limits
the amount of usable energy available. An internal combustion engine
can be enhanced and will produce more power by installing a turbo
charger. This unit will use some of the initial power produced by the
engine, but the end result is far greater. The same process is used
in this unit but because it uses Gravity rather than fuel, the enhancement
system is much different.
The new design changes to the machine and improvements to the
enhancement mechanism look very promising and should deliver
over 500 foot pounds of torque.
This web site is not here to sell anything. It is only to inform you that
a new source of power will soon be available.
The cost of the unit will be surprisingly inexpensive.



Newer Machine Specs.
Length    approximately 8 feet
Width    approximately 4 feet
Height    approximately 6 feet
weight     450 lbs
Torque    over 100 foot lbs and up

 
Read me first

Video is available of older machine to view newer machine soon to be posted

This is an older model machine that delivers approximately 1 to 1 1/2 horse power. This was the first test of this machine and was not fully balanced.

Procedure

First I have to loosen off the disk brake until it has a small amount of resistance, then give the machine a little push. As it starts to rotate and picks up speed I tighten the brake just enough to control the rotation speed. This is normally handled by a governor on the newer machines. The machine must rotate at a pacific speed to keep the generator constant. To stop the machine I just tighten the crank on the disk brake assembly and it works the same way as the disk brakes work on a car.
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Okay, here are all the pictures I have found about this machine  attached to this
posting:
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #105 on: September 06, 2007, 08:03:45 PM »
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #106 on: September 06, 2007, 08:25:43 PM »
The last picture file94200744448PM.jpg had a subtitle:
Little Britain resident Bob Kostoff controls an early version of 'The Gravity Powered Machine' as it turns at a high rate of speed. The machine, which he has patented, generates power using gravity.


Here are attached the 2 videos I found on his website:
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #107 on: September 06, 2007, 10:30:18 PM »
Here is the Canadian patent office website,
but I did not yet find any gravity related patent by the inventor name
Kostoff, so maybe someone else is lucky to find it ?

http://patents1.ic.gc.ca/srch_adv-e.html

Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
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the only thing i see related to gravity and recent are this patent

http://patents1.ic.gc.ca/details?patent_number=2497861&language=EN

but its from LAROCQUE, LEONARD but the patent is not avaialble for download yet
Filled in 2006
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I live about 2 hours from Bob. Maybe I can do a quick look-see as to what is going on. I'd certianly like to take a look at it.

I suspect the patent has been 'approved' but not fully cleared of the Canadian Patent System, and Bob may now be applying for US protection as well.

 
« Last Edit: September 07, 2007, 05:54:00 AM by Prophmaji »
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #110 on: September 07, 2007, 05:56:46 AM »
Here is still the last video in WMV format for those that had problems to watch the
converted DIVX AVI version.
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #111 on: September 07, 2007, 06:37:09 PM »
aren't patents 18 months hidden before they get public? like Steorn.
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« Reply #111 on: September 07, 2007, 06:37:09 PM »

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In the US system: Patents are hidden (but who knows, really) from every prying eye, for 18 months, which is the 'application' phase. Then if accepted, (meaning the patent format is correct) it can be seen by corporations, who have been given the privalege of seeing them so they can say that..maybe..they've been working on that for 8-9 years, or some other similar crap. This essentially means that the old solid rule is that the patent goes to the guy who files first, that is - GONE. This means a corporation who decides they want a piece of your patent, can bring 'supposed' evidence that  they've been working on such for years..and your patent is denied and their is accepted. This is, of course, after they've been given the 'right' to peer into your patent application.

Total bull, but that particular change to the patent rules was enacted when GW came into office, IIRC. I'm not sure exactly how true the above statements are, but I'm going to be finding the salient details out tomorrow.

In Canada, you can create a letter, file, whatever, with photos that have the claims and process, etc, laid out, and mail it to yourself as a registered letter, and you are given a year to file from the date of that registered letter. When the letter comes back to you, you leave it sealed. Don't open it, it is your commercial protection. this is for Canada only, I've no idea how other countries do it. If you have a good idea and don't want to patent it (no money!), and/or want it to remain 'open source' this is a good way of preventing others from patenting such, as your sealed and dated registered letter can serve in court as a controlled 'date' for 'prior knowledge', or, 'prior art' that can strike down someone's attempt to patent something. Just don't open the letters when they come back, just file them away. This may work in the US as well, I'm not sure. I'll find out tomorrow.
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I live about 2 hours from Bob. Maybe I can do a quick look-see as to what is going on. I'd certianly like to take a look at it.

I suspect the patent has been 'approved' but not fully cleared of the Canadian Patent System, and Bob may now be applying for US protection as well.

 

Bob has an email reply thingy at the bottom right of his page: http://www.newsourceofenergy.com/  Why don't you try and get a hold of him and set up an appointment, Prophmaji. Let us know what happens.

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #114 on: September 08, 2007, 06:55:21 AM »
 I watched his first video. Since he stopped in in a short period of time, am doubtful.
I would need specific information to believe his claim. But 10 seconds is just torque from a compressed spring as far as I am concerned.
 Why do I say this  ?
 It is because today or tomorrow, I hope to put on you tube a theory on how gravity could power something. It is just that having worked on the theory since about 1990 kept me from pursuing better paying work.
 I will be showing a basic design. Why I would not be doing more is because a machine shop will never build a perpetual motion machine. And in designing one, it is difficult for me to try to be clever. Like telling them it is something else.
 It is because of the hoaxes that businesses are not willing to help someone making an honest attempt. This is why I will be posting videos on design theory on you tube.
 I know with what I post this weekend, people will probably wish more information. One difference between my design and Bobs', I use no moving parts.
 It is a simple design to myself (17+ years invested so far) but is rather complex.
 
 

The last picture file94200744448PM.jpg had a subtitle:
Little Britain resident Bob Kostoff controls an early version of 'The Gravity Powered Machine' as it turns at a high rate of speed. The machine, which he has patented, generates power using gravity.


Here are attached the 2 videos I found on his website:

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« Reply #115 on: September 09, 2007, 05:00:23 PM »
Okay, Bob has posted a new page,
how it works here:

http://www.newsourceofenergy.com/how%20it%20works.html

he writes:

How it Works
This drawing is not to scale. It is only used to visualize what has happened in the process.
 
Notice the weights on the right side and the weights in the center left. The mechanism I am using
propel the weight at the appropriate time and retracts the weight at the bottom so all the weight
is constantly at one end. I have enhanced the actuator mechanism and because of this it is not
a perpetual motion machine. If the power of the unit was converted to foot LBS the unit would uses
6 foot LBS of torque to Produce 200 LBS. of torque and more.
The wheels with drive belts on them represent the drive for the generator.
I hope this will help every one to understand how it works. (Number 1 question)

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« Reply #116 on: September 09, 2007, 05:10:25 PM »
Bob is probably converting the centrifugal forces into useful forces
over here.
If the upper shifting weight at 12 o?clock hits the upper end of the 12 o?clock  arm,
this hit pulse can be transfered via airpressure down to the lower weight
hiting there a spring and pushing the lower weight at 6 o?clock into the direction
of the axis !
So the centrifugal force of the upper weight hitting at 12 o?clock
helps to pull up the weight at 6 o?clock.
This is a pretty amazing principle, which has not until now being used.
As centrifugal forces can get very big in such a system, the output power
can get very high !
Very clever Bob !

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #117 on: September 09, 2007, 08:26:46 PM »
Bob is probably converting the centrifugal forces into useful forces
over here.
If the upper shifting weight at 12 o?clock hits the upper end of the 12 o?clock  arm,
this hit pulse can be transfered via airpressure down to the lower weight
hiting there a spring and pushing the lower weight at 6 o?clock into the direction
of the axis !
So the centrifugal force of the upper weight hitting at 12 o?clock
helps to pull up the weight at 6 o?clock.
This is a pretty amazing principle, which has not until now being used.
As centrifugal forces can get very big in such a system, the output power
can get very high !
Very clever Bob !

Regards, Stefan.


Air pressure as a centrifugal energy conversion device, can't wait to hear more.

All signs point to this being a 100% authentic device, again, can't wait to hear more.
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 On one web-site, I pointed out that since the U.S.PTO does not give out patents for perpetual motion machines, they could be inhibiting technological development. They do say on a part of theiw web site that a working model may be required. So they do not have a firm position on this subject.
 
In the US system: Patents are hidden (but who knows, really) from every prying eye, for 18 months, which is the 'application' phase. Then if accepted, (meaning the patent format is correct) it can be seen by corporations, who have been given the privalege of seeing them so they can say that..maybe..they've been working on that for 8-9 years, or some other similar crap. This essentially means that the old solid rule is that the patent goes to the guy who files first, that is - GONE. This means a corporation who decides they want a piece of your patent, can bring 'supposed' evidence that  they've been working on such for years..and your patent is denied and their is accepted. This is, of course, after they've been given the 'right' to peer into your patent application.

Total bull, but that particular change to the patent rules was enacted when GW came into office, IIRC. I'm not sure exactly how true the above statements are, but I'm going to be finding the salient details out tomorrow.

In Canada, you can create a letter, file, whatever, with photos that have the claims and process, etc, laid out, and mail it to yourself as a registered letter, and you are given a year to file from the date of that registered letter. When the letter comes back to you, you leave it sealed. Don't open it, it is your commercial protection. this is for Canada only, I've no idea how other countries do it. If you have a good idea and don't want to patent it (no money!), and/or want it to remain 'open source' this is a good way of preventing others from patenting such, as your sealed and dated registered letter can serve in court as a controlled 'date' for 'prior knowledge', or, 'prior art' that can strike down someone's attempt to patent something. Just don't open the letters when they come back, just file them away. This may work in the US as well, I'm not sure. I'll find out tomorrow.
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #119 on: September 10, 2007, 01:57:54 AM »
Hi Tao and all,
the principle of this device is pretty simple.
I have understood it by now.

You can try it yourself very easily.

Just take 2 x 5 Liter  buckets filled with water.
One in each hand.

Now pull your hands 180 degrees apart and rotate the 2 water
buckets in a vertical plane.

See, how strong the centrifugal forces are and so the water
stays in the buckets and will not spread onto your head ! ;)

Now now retrieve one bucket , so that you hold it with a tightened
muscles, so it stays a bit less way from the center of rotation.
Now let this retrieved weight bang at 12 o?clock against a "mysterious"
wall, which transfers the bang energy to the nonretrieved full arm long bucket
at 6 o?clock.
This will make the 6 o?clock bucket jump into the direction of the center
of rotation.
The 12 o?clock bucket still stays full long arm out until it itself reaches 6 o?clock,
where the other retrieved bucket is again loosened at it hits also the
12 o?clock  "mysterious" wall, so the energy is again transfered down to the
other bucket at
6 o?clock , which will be retrieved then again into the direction of the center
and fixed their, until it is again let go at shortly before 12 o?clock.

So the lever arm from 12 o?clock to 6 o?clock will always be heavier
and the resetting is done via the immense centrifugal "fictitious force",
which is thus converted into a real force doing work !

Regards, Stefan.
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