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[hartiberlin]

EM,
did you shortout the 2 AL layers in each of your rods or if not,
could you please measure, if there is building up a voltage between each AL layer on one rod  ?
And then between the Al layers across the 2 rods ?
Many thanks.

[BEP]

flipping one rod won't duplicate what he has. Connecting all four coils in series with the small windings each reversed will. It appears he has been reading Tesla patents, as well.

My point on the varnish is that it will create a doped junction.

[BEP]

I dont have my software here but imagine a ring of four coils connected in quad. Two opposing coils are reversed. AND there is a diode going from the end of a small coil to the beginning of the large winding on the next coil - ALSO creating a ring.

IN ADDITION there is the aluminum reversing induction between each set of coils. Help me out here. Could that cause rotation?

[EMdevices]

No voltage between the Al layers.

Also,  the brnbrade's photo is wired like the patent,  just trace the wires.  Two separate circuits formed by connecting Secondary_1 to Primary_2  (both leads),   then circuit 2 formed by connecting Secondary_2 to Primary_1,  where the 2 or 1 refer to the transformer.    

There are some unknowns however,   for those that know about electronics you know you have to place a dot over each coil to show the induction polarity.   There are about 4 different ways one can hook up these coils, other options are redundant.

EM

[chrisC]

BEP:

Great deduction! I think you're right about the 4 coils wired like in a TPU circular fashion.
Brnbrade himself actually echoed that statement in reply 13, see

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2630.msg37634.html#msg37634

So, we do have a regular TPU structure after all. Brnbrade, care to comment?

chrisC

[EMdevices]

chrisC,   take a closer look and  trace the wires and you'll see.

EM

[hartiberlin]

Hi Em,
yes, your big white coated wire
is on one rod right turned wired and on the other
rod left turned wired.

So is this correct ?
Does this give better amplification
of an induced pulse ?

Better check out each "rod transformer"
for itself first and see, how a pulse in the primary is induced
back into the secondary and then see, if you hook up
the 2 transformers and feed in a pulse, if it will cancel
or amplify a bit at least...
We are looking for amplification here.

[wattsup]

@MeggerMan

It's as if your were making them since you were a kid. Really nice job. The only question I have is how tight do your layers fit together, or, is there any air gap in your design?

@all

Here's another build;

Core - baling wire x 16 wires per core
Primary - Standard Electrical House Wire - Single strand - 14 awg - 40 turns
Secondary - 23 awg - Alot - around 90 feet each
Build per specs.

Build sequence:
Bailing wire core - a bugger to straighten out.
Electrical Tape
Three layers aluminium foil
Electrical Tape
Secondary winding
Electrical Tape
Three layers aluminium foil
Electrical Tape
Primary winding
Electrical Tape
Et voila!

But didn't see voltage rise using 3vdc plus with an assortment of caps. A few of the caps discharged rather slowly, so I will keep on poking around but I am sure Brbrade will be able to help out soon.

I will also try with sound since I have been doing audio frequency tests for my ECD.

I'd like to know what that cap is. The brown square one in Trial #1 and #2. Can any of you give me any details, description, etc.

Erfinder calculation;
185,000 mps x 5280 fpm / 180 ft = 5,426,666.66666666Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!. lol

It has to do with the resonance between the coils.

I will try Trail #4 as at least I can see the cap values.

No-one jump to any hasty conclusions. How long have people been working on the TPU? Fine. Well this just started so please don't panic. Besides. If Brnbrade studied Erfinder, why would he pull a fast one? Come-on guys. Think.

[BEP]

Sorry, my eyes are old but I checked it more than once and also drew it out as I went. I won't change my statement.
Don't forget the reversing field action of the Aluminum. I'm sure folks here know how that works.

[hartiberlin]

Maybe Brnbrade  made himself a few errors,
like different winding turning direections or ripped off varnish,
so the copper wire touched his alufoil and made contact,so it is
a different circuit or special iron rods, that have a high Barkhausen
noise output in a different BH regime than your rods, EMDevices,
so there are many parameters not yet known...

Hmm, why does Brnbrade not reply anymore ?
I hope he can post a few more answers.
Many thanks.

[EMdevices]

BEP,  just for you 

EM

[BEP]

Maybe not errors. Either he studies electronic history or his accidents may be a plus.
Early detectors (around the time of cat whiskers on the edge of a razor blade) had nasty diode avalanche noise when you didn't have it right. Barkhausen may not be the only flipping going on here!

[EMdevices]

I'm using multiple small rods like wattsup

I cut them from a long bailing (iron) wire


I'll think about Barkhausen, and experiment some more.

EM

[BEP]

Thanks EM.
As usual I saw what I wanted to see But I still don't think you are seeing what I am. Yes, you are correct on the physical wiring but I will be testing what I believe to be the actual functional of the way it is wired and constucted.

i.e. The Aluminum reverses the induction field and if I remember right it isn't completely reversed. It shifts the induction by 90 degrees. As wild as it seems!

Large emergency generators use the same principal in the exciter windings for the field driving windings. They take the single DC drive current to create 4 distinct poles for the exciter.

I'll let you all know how it played out. If nothing else, you'll have a good laugh 

[Bruce_TPU]

IMPORTANT:

Hello All,  I have been reading and catching up.

I see that everyone has built there own version of the brnbrade coils, but NO ONE has followed the step by step directions that I have posted on page 1, post 1.

Brnbrade had told me in an PM that he was using Aluminum Varnish as his insulator.  Not tape, or anything else.  I ALSO listed the EXACT steps to take to build this.

Also there is ONE solid piece of iron in the center.  NOT many pieces.  So, with the absolute most respect to fellow builders and experimenters, I humbly request, that you build HIS coil first!    Get it working and then play! 

PLEASE build again, this time EXACT directions.  I have been in ECD Land tonight and smoked a driver.  Will post a picture tomorrow.  And tomorrow I start on my brnbrade coil.

Happy Holidays!  (To my fellow Americans!)
Bruce