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[wattsup]

I don't know why the number 8 came out as a smiley.

@Earl

I'll take two Rat Races to go.  The circuit looks great. Can it do reverse polarity?

Actually I think I will get myself a Pulse Generator since my electronic skills are to limited and I always look to pulse devices with DC.

@BEP

Good work. We'll stay tuned.

[TheOne]

the smiley is the cool one using '8'+')' ,just put space between them or disable the smiley in your post

[Bruce_TPU]

I don't know why the number 8 came out as a smiley.

@Earl

I'll take two Rat Races to go.  The circuit looks great. Can it do reverse polarity?

Actually I think I will get myself a Pulse Generator since my electronic skills are to limited and I always look to pulse devices with DC.

@BEP

Good work. We'll stay tuned.

Hey Wattsup, glad to know I am not the only one!  But..I am learning. 

I sprayed my tower primer on a hot-rolled iron rod and let it dry. The only thing interesting was when I passed current from the iron to the coating - the current vs. time looked like a tunnel diode. Not very clean at all but the shape was there. The main component in the primer is zinc. I connected to the rod with an alligator clip. My connection to the coating was cat-whisker style with a nickel plated steel wire.

I just read a few posts back about wrapping the foil in a way it did not short on the other side. That reminded me of an old fractal antenna experiment I tried a very long time ago.

PC board etched as follows:

2 circles - one within the other
each not complete
the open ends faced 180 from each other
a wire passed through the center and not making contact with either circle
pass current through the wire
oscillation occurs between the incomplete circles - damped but distinct and longer lived than expected.
So I dropped it and found a better way.

Now have multiple incomplete circles each connected to the metal below and above it (in layers - I say connected because the chemicals in the primer eat at the varnish on the wire) with a
crude negative resistance diode (tunnel). Would the results be interesting? Would Aluminum particulates do something similar? I don't know and won't find out until late this weekend.

Hey BEP,

It does sound like grounds for some great experimentation.  I can't wait for the weekend, to see how it goes.

Warm regards,
Bruce

[wattsup]

OK you guys, here's something weird or wonderful.

I  hooked up the coils in another configuration. I am enclosing a photo of my standard hook-up showing the coils numbered 1 ans 2 and terminals ends identified as A, B, C and D so I can then describe how I connected it. So if I say AS this means the secondary of A, if I say DP this means the primary of D. Got it.

I am also enclosing a photo of my current set-up.

So basically, here's the way I connected my new set-up.

AS to DP, BS to CP, CS to BP and DS to AP.

I connected my Digital Meter to B+ and D-.

I took a 27,000uf 40vdc capacitor and hooked it to my power supply set at 30 vdc for about 15 seconds.

Then I removed the cap from the power supply and connected the positive of the cap to A and the negative of the cap to C.

Obviously I saw the voltage go from 30 vdc quickly down to about 1 volt, then a funny thing happenned.

The voltage started going up on its own very slowly. It's now up to 2.093 vdc oups 2.094 vdc and still going. Will let this sit and see what happens.

I think what will eventually happen is that the voltage will rise to the maximum resonance of the coil and then stay there, but I will see with time.

Oups now 2.101 vdc.

This is the same coils original coils I made on day one. The build is in this thread somewhere. Please try this with your coils.

Now 2.118 vdc

[nutekk]

wow! that is interesting...
think i will start a build tomorrow.
keep up the good work.

[EMdevices]

My electrolitic capacitor is so awesome, it doesn't even need a coil to start going up in voltage   

EM

[hartiberlin]

Hey Wattsups,
great !
But please try with an analog voltmeter
without any battery in it.

Maybe there is some coupling from the analog to digital
converter of the DVM to your coils  ?
Or is there a Mobile phone broadcast tower near by ?

Please try to shield it all in alufoil or in an iron case and try it again.

Please don?t connect any scope ground to it,
cause I once had something simularandit was caused by my scope ground
coupling in some potential.

Many thanks and good luck !

Regards, Stefan.

[z_p_e]

My electrolitic capacitor is so awesome, it doesn't even need a coil to start going up in voltage   

EM

So EM, wattsup,

Is this then charging via ambient noise picked up by the coils, or perhaps capacitor recovery, or a combination of both?

@wattsup, is your coil oscillating that you said resonance?

Darren

[Doug56]

@ All

I finished my device yesterday and already I started to make some tests. See the pictures below - photo 1.

Is a small device (the ruler is im cm), but I get some unexpected results. Fascinating!

I'm making tests without using capacitors therefore I'm without none in good conditions here.

I connected the output to my digital multimeter and input to my PC audio amplifier.

I recorded several waves in several frequencies (squared and senoidal) in Audacity software and play it in PC.

The mutimeter show oscilations between 0.2 to 0.5 volts DC and in AC scale is ever in 2.5 v while playng the waves.

Then I played a music and the display showed a voltage between 3v to 6v DC (remember, without capacitors or any other electronic peaces) - see picture 2.

It seems that the volume does not matter. What matters is the input signal frequency. This makes all difference!

Sorry for poor picture quality. I used my cell phone to take this photos.

Tomorrow I buy some capacitors and continue making tests.

I used domestic aluminium foils in my device, and each set has the follow layers: iron core / electrical tape / aluminium / crepe tape (as insulator) / secundary coil (thin cooper wire) 90 turns / crepe tape / aluminuim / crepe tape / primary coil (thick cooper wire isolated) 21 turns

Regards.

Doug

[starcruiser]

Doug,

Have you tried to meter the foil or the core?

[Doug56]

@starcruiser

No but tomorrow I will make more accurate tests.

Regards,

Doug

[hartiberlin]

Hi Doug,
 do you also have an analog DC volt meter ?
Please try it with this and maybe put in front also a graetz bridge
rectifier.
DO you have a scope ?
This would the best to measure it with.

Can you please post a screenshot what waveforms you feed to your
coils and what the maximum amplitude is ?

How many Watts does your PC audio amplifier have ?
It is just the basic output from your soundcard ?
What soundcard or audio amplifier do you use ?

Many thanks for these tests.

[brnbrade]

...

[wattsup]

@Doug56

That's a nice unit. When using sound as I have also tried with my audio grade PC sound card and mixing station (I compose some music also) and frequency generator software, you have to measure the voltage coming from the sound first. I have seen mine go up quit high when putting sound but the volume was at 10. Measure the sound, and deduct this from the calculation. Also your wiring is not like my current builds but you can try the start-up method and see what happens.

@all

I took the meter off the device at 2.172 volts. Removed the meter, closed everything in the room to go have a coffee. When I came back connected the meter, it was at 2.197 vdc.  It is now at 2.237. I'm afraid to touch it and will leave it there and make another one for more testing.

Cook new it would take a 12 inch rod 12 feet long to maybe run a small industry or more, who knows. His analogy to a battery seems correct. But I would say more a battery charger, no no, OK a battery. I'm using iron baling wire 16 strands 11 inches long. Check the build specs.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2630.msg38187.html#msg38187

2.238 vdc

Cook patent mentions that a wire core will give more tension. meaning current or amperage, hence less potential or voltage. More windings means more potential.

The coils are like two water tanks, one on top of the other. The top tank is tall but thin, the bottom tank is short but wide.  The top tank is piped to the bottom tank at bottom tanks' top center. Water can rise into the tall one or fall into the bottom one. This is happening I don't know how many times per second cause I'm afraid to put my scope on it. But what is important is the tank wall thickness (in this device it's the alu foil or al tubing). More thickness means less potential for leaks. My current unit probably has many many leaks and that is why the voltage is rising very slowly.

By isolating the coils fields you are preserving their potential. The core produces the magnetic field

2.241 vdc

Current Builders. Just try it out for yourself so I'm not the only one holding it.

I'll make another one, solid core.

The cap value should not matter. It will give a different effect. But actually, I'm thinking what if the capacitor was AC and you charged it with AC first to start it up. Man, this is going to be fun.

Brnbrade, if you can answer those questions I posted, this would be extremely important for us to learn more.

Start up is giving the capacitor its rated voltage (or as much as you have really) and connecting it to the coils at A and C. The capacitor will fall in voltage and find the coils' resonance on its own. The sound on the coils shot it up to 250V AC. OK.

Without a battery Brnbrade was producing as shown on Trial 4 and 5 located here;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2630.msg38054.html#msg38054

Brnbrade, now I know why the magnet core. Same power but more compact or more power with same size.

Also, more aluminum. I was using 3 layers, but will try 10 layers of alu foil, insulation with electrical tape. Did Cook have electrical tape? Maybe if he did, he would have used it as an insulator. Imagine. lol

2.244 vdc

It has now been at 2.244 vdc for quiet some time now and is staying there. This is very important and indicates that my build resonance can produce this much, that quick.

I want a new coil, or should I try another cap? I'll sleep on it and look at it in the morning. But for now, back to my ECD.

Builders try it out.

@btenzer

Maybe you can add the links above on page one and make a section for builders who post their build specs and other major posts such as my previous post under this builder. That way we can keep better track of things. The link to the Brnbrades pictures with Trial numbers is also good to put on page one as the reference when we talk about methods.

Stil 2.244 vdc, like I said weird or wonderful. But it's a start.

[wattsup]

@Brnbrade

Funny you should show that Tesla patent.

I have been thinking about that one since Erfinder came here and I had started to make a baling wire ring as shown. Never got around to it but will do it eventually.