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TPU: End Game...
« on: July 09, 2007, 09:11:13 PM »
Welcome to TPU: End Game


I'd first like to say a couple things.

This thread will house ONE of my complete solutions for the TPU.

I intend to fully describe the solution technically, how it works, and how it can produce all those effects stated by SM.

Considering all we know and have learned about the TPU, over the last year, we still don't know EXACTLY what the TPU looks like, how it is wound, or how it is powered. If we did, logic dictates, we would all already have TPUs.

I have considered all the words that SM ever sent through Lindsay, plus those from the videos, when constructing my theories (maybe 'theories' isn't the right word, perhaps 'technical designs' is better suited).

Everything is open to criticisms, including anything I put forward, so I welcome whatever comes.

I have thought about it, and I am going to break this into three sort of sections, a pre-knowledge one, one that describes how the device works, and one that addresses those many things said by SM.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2007, 05:08:16 PM »
A little pre-knowledge for you...


I will be using the term 'collector' to mean 'collector coil/wire' of the TPU in the below writeup.



(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/pre1.gif)
It all starts with some electrons, sitting all alone in the word, no one or thing to guide them. But seriously, the electrons basically just sit around waiting to be guided around and their eventual movement will allow us to use them as 'electrical power' as we know it.


(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/pre2.gif)
If an electric field is placed in that same region where those electrons were just sitting around and minding their own business, something happens. The electrons feel a force, the strength of this force depends on the 'difference of potential', ie. voltage, of this electric field. This force on the electrons then assuredly results in all those electrons moving toward the positive region of that electric field, because opposites attract, just like the Paula Abdul song, lol.

It then stands to reason, if we relate the above scenario to the TPU, what we WANT to accomplish on the 'collector' in order to have POWER (voltage/flowing electrons(current)) on it is to move it's electrons, simple enough right? I know, I know, big deal right? Anyone could have just said that because it is obvious, don't worry, more is on the way keep reading...

The way we accomplish this (the movement of electrons on the 'collector') is directly related to that one simple example above.

Enter, the Inductor (aka The Control Coil)

(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/pre5.gif)
Now, you might be saying to yourself, 'so what it is an inductor, it is good for making electromagnets and generating magnetic fields, so what...', but listen on.

At the MOMENT you initiate current, really it's better said, BEFORE the current FLOWS in wire, or an inductor, you 'can' see a LARGE VOLTAGE SPIKE, lets call this our KICK shall we. You can also make KICKs appear when you RAPIDLY cut off the flow of current through inductor that has built up a magnetic field. Both of these METHODS for GENERATING KICKs can be interchanged and used, although preference is given to the KICKs that happen BEFORE current flows, because it is THOSE KICKs that use the LEAST AMOUNT OF POWER.

The neat thing about an inductor, as opposed to a simple wire is that when these KICKs happen upon that inductor, and because of it's shape, a very familiar electric field to the example above is made.
(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/pre6.gif)
Of course, this electric (voltage) field's orientation is based on WHICH KICK you are seeing, and WHICH WAY the power supply to that inductor was connected. But, for our sake, it looks like the above picture, showing the positive region of the electric field on the left and the negative region on the right of the inductor. You see, that since the inductor is in the shape of a cylinder, it creates this cylindrical electric field, which you will see becomes helpful.

Now, lets put some electrons in that empty cylindrical space in that inductor and see what happens.
(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/pre3.gif)
Quite the same as the first image in this writeup, nothing is really happening with the electrons, they are just sitting around hanging out and doing nothing.

Now lets introduce them to a different existence.
(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/pre4.gif)
Hmm, look at that, sure looks like a KICK to me (remember a there are MANY WAYS to make a KICK, but a KICK in essence is a high voltage electric field). So, as this KICK is occuring, you see that the situation is the same as the second image, the electrons feel a force, the strength of this force depends on the KICK's strength, ie. 'difference of potential', ie. voltage, of this electric field. This force on the electrons then assuredly results in all those electrons moving toward the positive region of that electric field, just like in the example above except there is an inductor now involved.

Now, lets revisit our past thought, about how we generate POWER (voltage/flowing electrons(current)) on our 'collector'. All that needed to be done was to move it's electrons, the FASTER we moved those electrons, the more POWER we could have.

So, why not put our 'collector' (wire/coil) THROUGH that empty cylindrical space of our inductor (aka The Control Coil). After all, since the 'collector' is made of copper, it has plenty of electrons just wanting around to be MOVED. So, we have a situation just like above, except instead of those electrons being in free space, they are on a copper wire/coil.

So, there in lies the basis, most of the base knowledge needed to understand the rest of the theory.


More is coming shortly folks, sorry for the delays, at least I won't do you like Steorn did others, lol...

Oh, and don't go questioning what I have put up so far, until the rest of the theory is clearly laid out. I know that what is above is basic knowledge to a lot of you, but it MUST be said, and explained so that ALL can understand my ideas as I portray them. I am all about being completely concise!


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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2007, 05:08:16 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2007, 05:29:09 PM »
Exactly how the TPU operates...


In addition to using the word 'collector' to mean 'collector coil/wire' of the TPU, you should know that when I say the words 'control coil' that they basically mean 'inductor' (just like from the above examples) and that there can be MANY of these around the circumference of any given TPU.



Here is a quick description of how this all works: If you didn't already guess, the idea to create successive HV PULSES via the control coils and do so in a continual circle around the entire circumference of the TPU, this results in the movement of the electrons down the length of the 'collector'. The FASTER you are able to successively pulse/move the electrons in the collector, the more CURRENT and VOLTAGE will appears at the output leads of the TPU, this is also why the TPU doesn't have to have anything on it's output leads and explains why the Voltage and Current are fairly constant when the TPUs are in operation.

Below are images that should pretty much fully describe the operating procedures of the TPU, and how it works within the confines of this theory...

(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/controlcoil.gif)
A lone control coil, this is the heart of the TPU.

(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/basictpu.gif)
Here is a broad and very general overview of how the TPU would look.

(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/kick1.gif)


(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/kick2.gif)


(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/firing1.gif)


(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/firing2.gif)


(http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/antilenznature.gif)



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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2007, 09:41:59 PM »
Time to show how Steven Mark's own words match this device...
(in no particular order, I will show something Steven said, then explain how it relates directly and I will refer to the TPU I am talking about in this writeup simply as 'the TPU')



Steven Mark: "You could describe the useable current output of my coil as DC but with some hash in it." "It really doesn't have any convertible AC component which could provide a mechanical motive force as you suggested."  "They are only a means to achieve an end." "The multiple frequencies begin to feed themselves and the multiple kicks become a combined big kick." "I call it resonating." "You see, one little kick amounts to nothing." "However imagine if you had hundreds of thousands of little kicks combining into one big current kick..."

Explanation: The output from the TPU is exactly the same, it is DC, meaning there is a continual movement of electron (voltage/current output), but it ALSO has an AC component (Hash), and this AC component (Hash) is what CREATES this DC component.

Let me explain this in detail: The AC components I refer to are the KICKs that are coming from the control coils and interacting with the collector to move it's electrons. When the TPU starts up, the initial KICKs start SOME electrons moving, as the KICKs keep happening around the entire circumference of the TPU they gain momentum, this momentum comes from the fact that the electrons have mass and because collector is like an inductor itself. This is why it takes some time for the TPU to ramp-up, to wind-up, to start-up, to get to the desired voltage, etc...

Once the TPU is outputing at the desired level, the KICKs are STILL happening to keep the power outputing, but the KICKs are no longer causing the power output to climb, so at this point the KICKs are being used to MAINTAIN power output.

Picture a ball in a round tube (with the top missing, so you can touch the ball inside), now slightly tap the ball, what happens? It moves, right?, but only a little distance. Now, this time, slightly tap the ball, and before the ball seems to slow down again, tap the ball again, and keep doing this. What will happen? The ball will keep going faster and faster around the round tube. Now, don't tap the ball for a second and then start tapping the ball again, what happens? The ball slows down a little bit, and once you start tapping it again, it speeds right back up. Now, stop tapping the ball more many seconds, what happens? The balls slows down and eventually comes to a halt. So, this is exactly how the electrons in the collector are moving in the TPU, and it is the KICKs that are acting as your tapping did to the ball in the tube.

So, when the TPU is MAINTAINing it's power, there STILL needs to be KICKs occuring to keep the power (electrons) flowing. Note in the above paragraph where I said: "Now, don't tap the ball for a second and then start tapping the ball again, what happens? The ball slows down a little bit, and once you start tapping it again, it speeds right back up." So, the electrons slow a little bit between the times that the KICKs are occuring WHEN the TPU is in MAINTAINENCE MODE, and once successive KICKs occur, the electrons get a boost back up to speed. This is WHY THERE IS AN 'AC COMPONENT (Hash)' ON THE 'DC OUTPUT' OF THE TPU!





Steven Mark: "My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio. The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load. the important difference here is that in the case of the radio, you tune into the frequency and amplify it for use. In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference. The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil. You can begin to collect the current and dissipate it with no need for amplification because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain. It is important that you note that you can never tune too closely to the exact frequencies of power conversion because the power received by the collector will instantly destroy it. We instead must deliberately tune off the frequencies of conversion in order to make the thing properly work. Without the control unit constantly monitoring the frequencies of operation and making the necessary changes to keep the whole thing off exact conversion frequency, then the unit would very quickly destroy it's self."

Explanation: We do have to tune the TPUS LIKE A RADIO, the frequency at which the CONTROL COILS need to MAKE KICKS AT is directly related to the CIRCUMFERENCE of the COLLECTOR, but it is also related to the number of control coils we have! The reason that the frequency is related to the circumference of the collector is obvious. Since we are using KICKs to DRIVE the electrons AROUND the collector, and since we have MULTIPLE control coils, each successive control coil must make a KICK directly after the last control coil has just KICKed. This all must happen in a continual circular process, which will cause the electrons on the collector to be continually driven around the entire collector, through the load, and back into the collector, etc...., continually in a circle!

Steven says that you can start using the current on the collector in a load because the SIGNAL is ALSO the FEED for the ENERGY source(which is the electrons MOVING THEMSELVES in this HV 'KICK' field), and this is totally true. The SIGNAL SOURCE he refers to is the control coils that are successively KICKing, and it is this continual KICKing process that CAUSES POWER TO APPEAR IN THE FORM OF CONTINUAL ELECTRON MOVEMENT IN THE COLLECTOR! SO, the signal source, IS the power source (and this process IS ASYMMETRICAL, just look at my Anti-Lenz picture above...).

When Steven says that you shouldn't TUNE too closely to the center frequencies('CONVERSION frequencies'), he means that when you have these KICKs all happening in succession, and at a high frequency, the power (electron movement) will build quickly in the collector, and before you know it, the collector won't be able to handle all that power! SO, you must deliberately interupt this process by making the control coils NOT FIRE in PERFECT SUCCESSION! This is what is meant by tuning off the center frequency. For, when they don't fire in succession, the electron movements in the collector would get disrupted a bit and the power output would stop increasing...





Steven Mark: "It is obvious that most of the people reading the web site and experimenting know nothing about reading a scope and understanding what perfect frequency is. They also have no concept of how important the control frequencies are in order to make power from the collector. I assumed that anyone working on technology this sophisticated would have a superior knowledge of electronics and an understanding of PURE frequency output being a Necessity to control the reactions going on inside the collector."

Explanation: Here is another very important quote from Steven. He talks about PURE/PERFECT frequencies, this is also KEY, and relates directly to TESLA. When making the KICKs in the control coils, there SHOULD BE NO REVERSALS OF CURRENT when that KICK is happening. Listen, when the KICK occurs and there manifests that HV electric field within the cylindrical area of the control coil, this is what causes the electrons on the collector to move. SO, if your KICKs have any OSCILLATIONS in them, then this sort of messes up the movement of the electrons on the collector! Your KICK should be like a step function, just one quick HV PULSE, NO REVERSALS OF CURRENT, NO OSCILLATIONS, hmmm, where have you heard that before?, RIGHT! Tesla...

Steven also says that people don't have the concept of how important the control frequencies are to making power(electron movement) on the collector, this WAS true, until my writeup ;P. Steven said this though, because this is VITAL to UNDERSTANDING how to even CONSIDER MAKING A TPU!





Steven Mark: "Gosh, the reason I just hate transistors is because they are so slow and generate so much distortion!!! I think that transistors are basically useless for listening to really good high fidelity.
all those harmonics somehow get through to the music output and just ruin the music... I am sure that you know what I am referring to. Did you know that electron transit times in some tubes approach the speed of light? They are mini particle accelerators. Did you know that the best electron transit times of transistors is about like turning on a mechanical switch for a lamp? Gee, why not just build a tube amp to begin with. Less distortion and little need for feedback overdose. Much faster all around."

Explanation: Here Steven is talking about the difference of TUBES to transistors(ss) devices. ONCE you UNDERSTAND how power is made in the collector, and that HV KICKs are needed, and how these KICKs are made, you begin to UNDERSTAND why Steven KEPT telling everyone to initially use TUBES for getting the best results!

He says that transistors are slow and cause distortion. There are two keys here, being slow, and the distortion. Because the transistors are SLOW, they will NOT BE GOOD AT generating a KICK with EITHER METHOD OF KICK GENERATION THAT I MENTIONED IN MY IMAGES ABOVE! In addition, they have DISTORTION, which means that in either KICK method that you choose to use, THERE WILL BE SOME REVERSALS OF CURRENT, and OSCILLATIONS during the period of time when the KICK is happening. This is why Steven said these things about transistors so much, because being 'slow' and having 'distortion' result in MUCH lower potential for causing electron flow on the collector.

He says that TUBES are great and that they have transit times that can approach the speed of light(much faster), and can generate those PURE frequencies. Well, this should be obvious to you now. Since the tubes are so fast, they can make HUGE KICKS EASILY, plus, THEIR OUTPUTS ARE PURE, meaning that they have basically NO REVERSALS OF CURRENT, ie. NO OSCILLATIONS in the KICKS. This all results in a PERFECT case scenario for causing electron flow on the collector!




Steven Mark: (FROM MY POST LAST YEAR: "Capacitors discharged ABRUPTLY into a wire, then the current flow is stopped ABRUPTLY  ...  and this KICK comes out of the wires perpendicularly. So, I would say that Steven's KICKS have a direct relationship to Tesla's Magnifying Transmittor, its REAL operation.") "From Steven: Lindsay, this guy definitely has the secret. I do not know if he will be able to duplicate power generation, but he does have the secret. Do you think he knows it? The only part he doesn't have any idea about is that by starting the oscillation you cause the current to flow in the collector which causes the magnification of the process within the collector which will ultimately produce the greater voltage and power in usable amounts during operation."

Explanation: Here we are, back to the beginning when Steven said that I definitely had the secret to his TPUs! I think you all should thing about this again IF YOU EVEN THINK OF CRITICIZING THIS WRITEUP, lol. Seriously though, he said it back then, that I DEFINITELY HAVE THE SECRET, and the secret was TO MAKE A FAST (sharp rise, fall) SQUARE WAVE PULSE(KICK) IN A WIRE(CONTROL COIL) AND THIS WOULD MAKE ELECTRONS (move, charge) UPON A WIRE(COLLECTOR) THAT WAS PERPENDICULAR TO IT...

Then he states, that by starting the oscillation that current is caused to flow on the collector, and causes magnification of the process. Well, you should know by now EXACTLY what he means here, after reading my whole writeup. The electrons on the collector are caused to flow(current) via the continual and successive KICKs that it is receiving for the control coils which are PERPENDICULAR to the collector! Plus, the magnification that he is talking about comes from the fact that when successive control coils are making KICKs along the circumference of the collector the electrons on the collector build up speed via this continual KICKing process, this is akin to Steven's three-canon and particle accelerator analogies, and hence, this IS the magnification that he is talking about! So, when this magnification keeps happening, you WILL get more voltage and power output on the collector!
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2007, 09:41:59 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 04:47:38 PM »
I'D ALSO LIKE TO STATE RIGHT NOW, THAT THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO USE THIS SAME BASIC OPERATING STRUCTURE TO MAKE A SUCCESSFUL TPU, MEANING, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO MAKE HV ELECTRIC FIELDS WITH INDUCTORS, IE. OTHER WAYS TO ENTICE THE ELECTRONS IN THE COLLECTOR TO MOVE WHILE STILL MAINTAINING IT'S ANTI-LENZ NATURE, ETC. I FELT IT BEST, FOR ALL CONCERNED, THAT I CHOOSE "THE SEEMINGLY EASIEST UNDERSTANDABLE HV GENERATION METHOD AS IT RELATES TO THE CONTROL COIL'S OPERATION" SUCH THAT ALL THE READERS THERE WOULD FULLY COMPREHEND THE OPERATING PROCEDURE I SHOW THEM. NO SENSE MAKING THINGS MORE COMPLICATED (INITIALLY, THAT IS) THAN THEY HAVE TO BE, RIGHT?!? ;)

SO, BASICALLY, MY END GAME POST IS IN A SENSE A TRUE END GAME POST, BUT ALSO, IT CAN BE USED TO GREATLY EXPAND YOUR IDEAS AS TO HOW THE TPU CAN OPERATE AND HOW EVEN OTHER THEORIES AND METHOD CAN FIT INTO THE SAME OPERATING STRUCTURE THAT I SHOW YOU HERE IN THIS WRITEUP.

THANK YOU ALL, FOR NOW, GOODNIGHT FOLKS...
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2007, 06:50:38 PM »
Ok, its all done!

I have laid out what I hope is a COMPLETE communication of how and why the TPU operates!

I did this for all of you,
I did this for Steven Mark, who is forced into silence
I did this for the world...

Enjoy folks. We are all in this together, remember that.


I will leave this thread locked for the next couple hours or so, then open it all up so people can post and have discussions, etc.....


Below is a PDF of this complete document, formatted...
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2007, 04:55:06 AM »
Hi Tao:

Thanks for completing your write up. I've got to run an errand but would like to ask a couple of simple questions before I go.

1. You mentioned the importance of generating sharp & clean pulses for the control coils. can you shed more light on the frequency/harmonics needed to generate power? And their phase relationship too. Also what difference (if any) does the mechanics of the windings (size, weight, length, medium etc) play on the success of the TPU construction?

2. Your drawing depict a simple collector (wire or otherwise). Is there a need for a mobius structure (per Otto's design). If not, why not? (and vice versa)

3. Was hoping you'll tell us if you have a working TPU (self running or not) and can you show us some photos or video? I am asking not because I doubt your interpretation of SM's TPU inner workings. I'll count it a double blessing if we can indeed see your solution!

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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2007, 08:06:43 PM »
Great writeup Tao. As I have suspected for a long time, the real work of the TPU is in the control circuitry, which means we will need the abilities of an experienced circuit designer and pic programmer if we want to have fully working units equal to SM's devices.

Do you have a theory why the control circuitry needs to be placed inside the coil?

Some points from the other thread you made that are still unclear to me.

-The reason that the frequencies ARE dependent on the circumferences of the TPUs
-The spinning field
-The flame-like RF discharge from the leads in the video
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2007, 08:26:19 PM »
Hi Tao,

would the attached image be a so-called "equivalent circuit" of the TPU?

The capacitors are switched between charger and collector at the appropriate times.

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2007, 01:11:05 AM »
Hi Tao,

would the attached image be a so-called "equivalent circuit" of the TPU?

The capacitors are switched between charger and collector at the appropriate times.

Regards, Earl

Yes, that would be a so-called 'equivalent circuit' for the TPU.

Those 'capacitors' would be 'turned on'-then-'turned off' in succession (or harmonically) along the length of the collector.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2007, 01:53:55 AM »
Great writeup Tao. As I have suspected for a long time, the real work of the TPU is in the control circuitry, which means we will need the abilities of an experienced circuit designer and pic programmer if we want to have fully working units equal to SM's devices.

Do you have a theory why the control circuitry needs to be placed inside the coil?


From Steven:
"# 3. As you know, Large amounts of FEEDBACK is essential to frequency and control when using SS devices for everything in the electronics world, HOWEVER, it is the enemy of generators! If anyone ever gets one of these things operating, have them measure the electro magnetic and hash radio around the unit....it will blow your mind. so, what does that do to control devices in close proximity? Why do you think we HAD to place our control devices in the middle of the operating coil? Listen: when these units get going they F**K with the control units, changing the signals they put out and receive. they have no choice but to get off frequency and shut down. In most cases they will not even start up. TUBES are NOT as sensitive as SS control devices and DO NOT require the massive amounts of feed back to operate."

I think it is basically as SM states, all the various magnetic fields being generated by the control coils , and that HV KICKs, can cause these SS control ICs to fail to operate steadily and thereby result in a non-operating TPU. So, Steven places the control units in the direct center of the TPUs (the later, strong TPUs), and this would be the one spot where the least effects from the magnetic fields of the collector would appear, not to mention the HV KICKs.


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Some points from the other thread you made that are still unclear to me.

-The reason that the frequencies ARE dependent on the circumferences of the TPUs

There is the two things you need be concerned with, the duration of the pulse that is sent to each control coil to MAKE a KICK, and then the BEST frequency(s) at which the various control coils should operate at.

The reason that the frequencies ARE dependent on the circumference AND the lengths of the various control coils is that these control coils MUST be timed such that EACH SUCCESSIVE(next in line) CONTROL COIL creates IT'S KICK JUST AS the KICK FROM THE PRIOR CONTROL COIL IS STARTING OR ENDING(experimentation will determine the best time)...

So, lets say you chose the simple firing sequence for operating the control coils and you decide to use 3 control coils, where each successive one creates the next KICK. Now, lets say you use a frequency of 1 Hz for this. This means that the 1st control coil with create it's KICK, and cause electrons on the collector covered by that 1st control coil, Now, since you WANT the 2nd control coil to fire AS the KICK FROM 1st CONTROL COIL IS STARTING OR ENDING(experimentation will determine the best time), this means that the 2nd control coil with fire and create it's KICK, THEN, this will happen again with the 3rd control coil which creates it's KICK just after the KICK from the 2nd control coil....

So, think for a minute about what just happened here. We are using a frequency of 1 Hz(which of course means 1 cycle per second) for the firing sequence, BUT, the TIME it takes to actually make a KICK in each of the three controls coils takes nanoseconds(or up to many milliseconds if you use the collapsing mag field KICKing scheme), and since each of the control coils in this example are firing in succession for best power output(electron flow) on the collector, that means that before that 1 SECOND(1 Hz) is over, in fact way before it is over, ALL the control coils have fired. So, now, there is no more KICKing happening until that 1 second is over, then that first control coil fires again, and the 2nd and 3rd, etc. BUT, that TIME between when the 3rd control coil fires and the time that the 1st control coil fires AGAIN, it SO LONG that the ELECTRON MOVEMENT(momentum) that you are building in the collector DIES OUT.

So, you need to find a frequency that is based on the amount of time it takes to fire the complete set of control coils which are along the entire length of the collector, so that when that LAST control coil fires, just after this, the 1st CONTROL COIL will start the WHOLE CIRCULAR PROCESS OVER AGAIN...

Man, SM was right, this is hard to explain lol! Please note, the above is simply a contrived EXAMPLE that LETS YOU SEE how frequency CAN BE RELATED TO the CIRCUMFERENCE of the COLLECTOR. In practice, you might uses harmonic firing, multiple collectors, any number of control coils, etc, SO, there can be MANY differences from the example I outlined above...

Hope that in some way helped!

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-The spinning field

There are multiple spinning fields. The electrostatic spinning field that comes from the successive KICKs occurring around the circumference of the collector is one. The magnetic B fields ON THE COLLECTOR created by these intense HV electric fields of the KICKs is a second spinning field. And, If you chose the collapsing mag field KICK generation option, you will have another spinning field, this one also of magnetic B fields, but these are PERPENDICULAR to the ones created on the collector by the KICKs.

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-The flame-like RF discharge from the leads in the video

Ok, when the electrons FEEL the KICKs the electrons start running, like a monster is chasing them, lol. If there is an OPEN CIRCUIT on the TPU leads, the building movement of electrons CAUSE a voltage to appear on the leads.

Now, when these leads are brought close to each other, you see that VERY powerful flame-like discharge. This SHOULDN'T be considered a discharge, but more like a flame-like CONDUCTIVE LINK between the two leads of the collector. You see, the electrons are being propelled along the collector at such a rate, that there is a HUGE potential for massive AMPS along that collector. From the point of view of one of the collector's output leads, electron are being PUSHED TOWARD IT, and from the view of the other collector's output lead, electrons are being PULLED INTO ITSELF, there is a sort of electron vacuum effect lol.

Picture this, one of the output leads acts like a North pole of a magnet, and the other output lead acts like a South pole of a magnet, and there is an incredible force on them towards each other. This force of attraction comes from the electrons being propelled at such speeds(AMPS or the POTENTIAL FOR amps) via the KICKs. Since the KICKs are happening at SUCH a FAST RATE, you could literally hold the TPUs output leads like 1 inch apart, and there would be a CONTINUAL and NON-ENDING flame-like CONDUCTIVE LINK (discharge) occurring, for as long as you hold those leads 1 inch apart. There is no DISCHARGE of the collector, since there is nothing TO DISCHARGE from it, it is a continual process that happens AS LONG AS THE CONTROL COILS ARE STILL PRODUCING THE KICKS. This is why Steven is saying that the TPU can be deadly, for when it is running, and outputting, IT WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO until either the control coils stop making KICKs OR the collector burns up and destroys itself.
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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2007, 01:53:55 AM »

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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2007, 06:32:01 AM »
Interesting how the stun gun leads are also 1" apart. Arbitrary? I think not.

Now those were interesting experiments! :D
I thank God I didn't have the power SM talks about. LOL  :o

If I had the time I would do a flash graphic with sliders to change the freqs resonance time. Hmmm... Now that would make some great content, eh?

@Tao,
Great info & visualizations, man!
So as we go around the circumference the next kick is impressing upon the declining previous kick. So we are racing to beat the latency of the previous declining magnetic field? And we are right ahead of the previous kick just like surfing. How else could we hang ten on a board sticking 5 feet out in space? Is this a good analogy? It is like a growing tidal wave right behind us?
If this post needs modification let me know.

But back to my fitfull controller. Argh!

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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2007, 06:32:01 AM »

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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2007, 06:36:41 AM »
Something interesting I found while searching for fast recovery diodes (sometimes used as damper diodes in TV circuits):
http://www.earlytelevision.org/damper.html

Seems that this diode tries to get rid of the oscillations in the high-voltage line-scan waveform of old tube-based sets.  Now recall SM's exploding TV story... ;)
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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 12:01:20 AM »
I have put an explanation of the theory and operation of the TPU according the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory in:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2621.msg40143.html#msg40143

Comments are welcome.  It is only the first draft.
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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 12:01:20 AM »

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Re: TPU: End Game...
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2007, 12:21:33 AM »
I have put an explanation of the theory and operation of the TPU according the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory in:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2621.msg40143.html#msg40143

Comments are welcome.  It is only the first draft.


Thread-jacker... lol.

I already said, the OU comes from the electrons moving themselves in the HV KICK fields, the continual buildup of electron 'momentum', and the fact that the TPU has a perfect ANTI-LENZ characteristic to itself.

Your document merely and SLIGHTLY recaps what I already completely said.

No offense, but please keep the 'pulse forces' and 'lead outs' out of this thread...
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