SMOT! - (previously about the OC MPMM)

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The incredible

Water Motor

Just runs with

only 1 Liter

tap water

for weeks !

[rotorhead]

This thread used to be all about the OC MPMM. It has now been completely derailed. Enter at your own risk.

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687

[Pirate88179]

I don't believe this will work, but then, what do I really know?

Bill

[Nastrand2000]

It may work with 3 or more rotors, but this is basically the perendev setup with a twist. Good luck...I wish you the best, but I don't trust sims.
Jason

[rotorhead]

There wasn't much interest when I first started this thread, but there wasn't much to show either. Just a few graphics. Now someone has taken serious interest in the idea and is actually building something. Maybe you'd like to take another look.

The concept: http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687
The construction: http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=3pgkrtdln76us

[4Tesla]

Did the device work?

4Tesla

[rotorhead]

If you take the time to follow the links, look at the graphics and photos, and read some of the text, you'll see that it's still in the early stages of construction. A lot more work needs to be done.

Just posting here in case one of the more gifted builders here wants to try building something like this. The more, the merrier.

[Koen1]

Looks like a magnetic "gearbox", with the rotating magnets and larger wheel acting as cogwheels...

And like a cogwheel version, it doesn't look like any more energy (rotation) can be delivered to the larger wheel that was not put in by the smaller ones...
In this case we have magnetostatic friction where the cogwheels have mechanical friction...

What makes you think it could be OU so that it can power itself despite friction and resistance?

[rotorhead]

One of the reasons I posted here was because I know there are some people here skilled in the simulation arts. I would dearly love to see a detailed sim of this thing in action. It might help to determine feasibility. In the meantime, trial-and-error validation continues ...

[Koen1]

Excuse me, are you saying you have not actually done any simulations? Not even extensive mental simulations?
So you just had an idea, and you think instead of doing some simulations and calculations to see if it might indeed work,
spending lots of time and money on building something of which you have no clue if it will work is the best way to go?
Well of curse if you have the time and the money to waste then by all means do so...
But the design seems quite straightforward to me, and I don't see it working at over unity... Now that's only the mental simulation
and related quick mathematical sim of course, but in general I have found that my mental sims tend to turn out very close if not identical to computer simulations of the magnetic fields...

Hey, but if you get it to work, please do post!

[rotorhead]

Koen1,

I HAVE done "mental" simulations. I have also performed some trivial experiments with magnets to convince myself the idea is not completely without merit. So far, I have not seen anything to indicate the idea is unworkable.

Unfortunately, I do not have access to any software capable of simulating the mechanism shown or the knowledge how to use it properly. I also lack the equipment to build something of this nature and I'm not willing to contract with a local machine shop unless I have some reason to believe it might possibly work.

Your response indicates to me that you have done less investigation on this technology than I have. I'm looking for additional evidence, not opinions.

And please don't quote some mathematical formulas to me. If we listened to the math, there would be no need for a site like this, and no hope whatsoever for any overunity devices. The math should reflect reality, not the other way around.