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[eavogels]

Try to reproduce the device exactly as shown in this video. Developments later.

I agree, and I'm on it.
Do we have a real list with facts? For instance: Are the screws flattened before gluing? I read that in another group but I don't know where it came from.

Eric

p.s. (After I made my replication I will place another row magnets at 180 degrees from the first row, pointing the other pole to the screws. Perhaps that will avoid magnetizing of the screws)

[Jdo300]

Hey Eric,

Glad to see you working on this one. I would build it but all of my magnet motor supplies are packed away (I'm currently geared up to work on TPUs). But if you guys can get this thing rockin' and rollin', i'll be happy to jump on the bandwagon.

God Bless,
Jason O

[Omnibus]

@eavogels,

Flattening of the heads of the screws is seen when carefuly observing the close shots in the video. Also, it was mentioned in the youtube discussion. It isn't quite clear what the dimenisons of the neos are, though, the only thing menioned about them being that they are N45. The exact type of the screws should matter too, I guess, and their ordering such that every consecutive "station" repeats exactly what occurred at the previous one.  Each station (each screw) is a tiny SMOT of sorts working one after another. Passing on the baton, the timing, seems to be crucial as in any other of the discussed devices and therefore, obviously, efforts should be exerted for fine-tuning. Not an easy job. Recall, it has taken Finsrud whole 11 years to fine-tune his device. This one seems easier but still ...

[hydrocontrol]

Do we have a real list with facts?

Eric,
 Details are what we are lacking so a good replication is going to be lacking.. Somewhere he stated he thought the screws are 3/4 inch long. Still no details of the screw size like #8, #10, #12, etc.. No details of how many screws going around the outside of the PVC pipe. No details of both horizontal and vertical spacing of screws. He did make a brief mention of the magnets being grade 45 or so he thought. For a grade 45 they are awfully weak for pulling the screwdriver in the video. If they were grade 45 I think he would have had to pry the screwdriver away. I am hoping he comes back with more information and a better video.
If not we can still use the video supplied to try to replicate but that will be more hit and miss. Just from looking at the video I would say they are #12 wood screws with spacing about 1/4 inch horizontal and vertical mounted on a 4 inch PVC pipe. It maybe a 3 1/2 inch PVC pipe. Screw heads appear to ground off on one side up to the shaft then glued to the PVC. Still too much missing information.
 I am kinda bothered that he stated that this PVC pipe ran for a night but instead of presenting the PVC design he is now presenting a steel washer design. Why change ? Seems strange to abandon a working design so early in the game if it ran for a night.
Maybe after this weekend we will have more video and more details..

Later,
Tom .

[NerzhDishual]

Hi resourceful OverUnity dot com builders,

Just my 2 cents.
I have uploaded (without permission) the Xpenzif vid. on:
http://freenrg.info/MagMotors/

My 'Skeptic Mode' is off' (hydrocontrol's very expression).
BTW: I have this mode (too?) often off.
I guess I will try to replicate this device.
I'm only short of  screws. 
If I do not succeed I will -at first- only blame myself .
Fortune, hazard, serendipity seem to be the keys of 'OU'?
Is it not?
------------------------------------
Else : an information (hope it is new):
A (very well tools's equipped and skillful (IMHO)) French Guy has been trying to
replicate the Perendev motor :
http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/dupreprotoperendev.htm
(In french , but not the pictures  ).

For the moment() it does not work.
Does it absolutely mean that the Perendev motor is a fake?
Not necessarily. It also could mean that 'Perendev' itself is not able to replicate his own motor (or anything else).

So in these issues of magnets motors we have no theory. Actually the 'official' theory is : it is impossible (conservative force and so on). Period.

Best

[Omnibus]

Do we have a real list with facts?

Eric,
 Details are what we are lacking so a good replication is going to be lacking.. Somewhere he stated he thought the screws are 3/4 inch long. Still no details of the screw size like #8, #10, #12, etc.. No details of how many screws going around the outside of the PVC pipe. No details of both horizontal and vertical spacing of screws. He did make a brief mention of the magnets being grade 45 or so he thought. For a grade 45 they are awfully weak for pulling the screwdriver in the video. If they were grade 45 I think he would have had to pry the screwdriver away. I am hoping he comes back with more information and a better video.
If not we can still use the video supplied to try to replicate but that will be more hit and miss. Just from looking at the video I would say they are #12 wood screws with spacing about 1/4 inch horizontal and vertical mounted on a 4 inch PVC pipe. It maybe a 3 1/2 inch PVC pipe. Screw heads appear to ground off on one side up to the shaft then glued to the PVC. Still too much missing information.
 I am kinda bothered that he stated that this PVC pipe ran for a night but instead of presenting the PVC design he is now presenting a steel washer design. Why change ? Seems strange to abandon a working design so early in the game if it ran for a night.
Maybe after this weekend we will have more video and more details..

Later,
Tom .

I agree. @xpenzif should be more forthcoming if his creation is to see the light of day. Otherwise it will sink as many other seemingly working devices sank when their creators were approached for details only to disappear. Also, I' m seeing that various people are giving him advice which doesn't belong to this stage of the development of the idea. I think @xpenzif should learn to be himself and not listen to anything which would distract him from the main goal--establishing of his experiment as legitimate by having independent parties replicate it. I'm saying this in principle. Of course, I don't know what his exact attitude is regarding these matters. Maybe, for instance, he's too busy now and doesn't have the time to chat in this and the youtube forums. Anyway, I think you're quite right, it has to be impressed upon him that he shouldn't abandon a working model and get into a chaotic, unsystematic activity to improve something that hasn't yet been established. It will be very detrimental to the development of this important idea.

[CLaNZeR]

Off to make the bracket to mount 4 magnets on, but so far as below and mounted on a HD bearing for now.


(http://www.overunity.org.uk/SM1.jpg)

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/SM2.jpg)

Damm Glue gun burns ya fingers nicely

Back in a bit.

[Freezer]

Still before I sign up for machine shop time I want to see a better video and some more details. Machine shop time cost $$..
Later,
Tom

I wish I got into this stuff back in school..  I had a cnc, mill, vaccum former, table saws, band saws, sanding chambers, and every tool all at my finger tips.  I wonder if the inconsistencies in the screw gap distances cause a acceleration and deceleration which is the mechanism which allows for the effect, just a thought.

Off to make the bracket to mount 4 magnets on, but so far as below and mounted on a HD bearing for now.

Damm Glue gun burns ya fingers nicely

Back in a bit.

Nice as always.    Just a suggestion to make sure and glue those screws on well, as the magnets will pull them off if its too close.

[erickdt]

I'm wondering if one could use the magnet sheets that they sell at home depot etc. to cut out these triangular shapes. This would take care of the problem of the screws eventually becoming magnetized.

[Omnibus]

Off to make the bracket to mount 4 magnets on, but so far as below and mounted on a HD bearing for now.


(http://www.overunity.org.uk/SM1.jpg)

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/SM2.jpg)

Damm Glue gun burns ya fingers nicely

Back in a bit.

Good luck. Just to mention, did you notice that in the original the heads of the screws are flattened, as we discussed above? Perhaps this won't matter. Let's see. Also, is it me but it seems that the PVC base isn't exactly a cylinder. Also, the magnets aren't aligned quite perfectly. Look at the third from the top. The top magnet seems closer to the screws than the bottom, etc. It's amazing that even such an apparently crude construction turns as nothing else so far does. Torbay's wasn't perfect either but we never saw it in action (except for that propaganda clip where details were smeared, nothing like here).