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Author Topic: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??  (Read 165016 times)

CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #225 on: January 08, 2008, 10:04:21 PM »
Sean

First off you do nice work and did a test like yours last night, but after watching the video is did you spin one Stator magnets CCW and rotor CW. I think this is only way this will run. I also wait for my parts and will play.

Wayne

Hi Wayne

As stated 3 posts above I did try flicking the stator magnets, but they are just slid over some brass screws and not secure anyway.
Have drawn up the plans for the Stator magnets but before machining out I await the correct stator magnets to make sure I have got the sizes correct.

Good luck with your replication and get some pictures up!

Cheers

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #225 on: January 08, 2008, 10:04:21 PM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #226 on: January 08, 2008, 10:15:31 PM »
Sean

opps didn't read that, but I am using 1" long rectangle blocks and same size dia mags on stator. For now I put them in small tubes so they spin but will rig something tonight so I can spin the one stator. It sure makes a noise mind you. Will post some pics soon but wanted to fix this first.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #226 on: January 08, 2008, 10:15:31 PM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #227 on: January 08, 2008, 10:36:32 PM »
this setup looks interesting!

but is it really slowing down? Can we get a daylight video?
Longer one? To see if and when it stops?

Where can this "backward Nikolatesla" guy be contacted?

thnx!

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #228 on: January 08, 2008, 10:42:19 PM »
Hi Jdo300

Nice work,
Just a note to add, as ebswift also pointed out and as alsetalokin posted few days back, and from the actuall device pics,  the stator dumper arrangement on the 13 holes is as follows.

D S D E E S E E E E S E E

where D=dumper, S=stator, E=empty

see also http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.135.html

I hope this helps for a more accurate replication.


Thanks everyone for the heads up on the positioning of the stators. I corrected the model and re-uploaded the images to my last post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg68853.html#msg68853

I also have finished the drawings and CAD Docs. In addition to that, I also made some 1:1 scale templates of the base plate and rotor disk for those who want to build this by hand.

I have attached dimensioned drawings of all the parts in PDF format and also the templates for the base plate and rotor disk.

There are also three zip files with CAD drawings of the parts in SAT, IGS, and DXF formats. If anyone has any comments or suggestions concerning the drawings please let me know.

God Bless,
Jason O
« Last Edit: January 09, 2008, 08:00:05 AM by Jdo300 »
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #228 on: January 08, 2008, 10:42:19 PM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #229 on: January 08, 2008, 10:46:41 PM »
Excellent Jason!

Is it okay ok if I upload these to my site at http://www.overunity.org.uk and setup a plans link?

Cheers

Sean.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #230 on: January 08, 2008, 10:50:59 PM »
Sure, feel free to copy and distribute. Just let them know I made them in case anyone wants any further CAD work done  :).

God Bless,
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« Reply #230 on: January 08, 2008, 10:50:59 PM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #231 on: January 08, 2008, 10:55:44 PM »
@Jdo300,

Thanks Jason. Great job. I'm still a bit confused about the dampers, though. It appears to me one of the dampers is closer to the stationary magnet than the other. Could you please take another look.
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« Reply #231 on: January 08, 2008, 10:55:44 PM »

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« Reply #232 on: January 08, 2008, 10:56:08 PM »
Sure, feel free to copy and distribute. Just let them know I made them in case anyone wants any further CAD work done  :).

God Bless,
Jason O


All added mate

and of course your name is next to them TUT, would I have it any other way ?  ;D

Will see if I can get time to turn your DXF files into Gcode and add tot he same page.

Cheers

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« Reply #232 on: January 08, 2008, 10:56:08 PM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #233 on: January 08, 2008, 11:09:41 PM »
@Jdo300,

Thanks Jason. Great job. I'm still a bit confused about the dampers, though. It appears to me one of the dampers is closer to the stationary magnet than the other. Could you please take another look.

Looking through the many pictures there is a mixture of old and new bases.
The base that was used in the demo seems to be the one below.
This shows there are no extra holes apart from the 13 Stator holes which says to me , maybe the Dampners are indeed in TO-BE Stator holder holes.
In saying this, the reason they are in those holes is confusing as in one of the many threads, AL stated the positioning of the dampners were hit and miss, but he probably meant where in the stator holes.

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/snoc6.jpg)

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/sl3.jpg)

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/snoc14.jpg)
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« Reply #233 on: January 08, 2008, 11:09:41 PM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #234 on: January 08, 2008, 11:16:41 PM »
@CLaNZeR,

I'm looking at the actual video and it seems the dampers there aren't evenly spaced. Can you please take another look at that video. I may be wrong.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #235 on: January 08, 2008, 11:24:43 PM »
@CLaNZeR,

I'm looking at the actual video and it seems the dampers there aren't evenly spaced. Can you please take another look at that video. I may be wrong.

I can see what you are saying, because as we look at the video the left hand side dampner looks closer, but I am sure this is just the video angle.
Checkout this enhanced brighter version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Ck9xC4S44

At first when you look at the base, it looks like there are dash holes on the stator plate between each Stator mount hole, but I am sure this is just a shadow cause by the light.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #236 on: January 08, 2008, 11:29:29 PM »
Awesome Job Jason :D

Thanks for doing all that work, very much appreciated

Bill
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #237 on: January 08, 2008, 11:30:27 PM »
I don't know, still seems closer. This is a detail, however. We'll see what the truth is when the magnets arrive and we start playing with it.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #238 on: January 08, 2008, 11:31:06 PM »
@Jdo300,

Thanks Jason. Great job. I'm still a bit confused about the dampers, though. It appears to me one of the dampers is closer to the stationary magnet than the other. Could you please take another look.

Looking through the many pictures there is a mixture of old and new bases.
The base that was used in the demo seems to be the one below.
This shows there are no extra holes apart from the 13 Stator holes which says to me , maybe the Dampners are indeed in TO-BE Stator holder holes.
In saying this, the reason they are in those holes is confusing as in one of the many threads, AL stated the positioning of the dampners were hit and miss, but he probably meant where in the stator holes.


Hi CLaNZeR,
The dampers are on the 2 of the 13 predrilled holes flanking the stator.

Also see alsetalokin's post
"...And one more time: 6061-T6 extruded aluminum bar stock, machined to the exact dimensions of the stator magnets (except I really did use a 3/16 hole, the magnets are a bit bigger here), spaced and oriented by trial and error, and in my unit, the pre-drilled holes for the stator magnets seemed close enough to the sweet positions so I just used them."

I hope this helps
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« Reply #238 on: January 08, 2008, 11:31:06 PM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #239 on: January 08, 2008, 11:34:13 PM »
Quote from: mikestocks2006
The dampers are on the 2 of the 13 predrilled holes flanking the stator.

Also see alsetalokin's post
"...And one more time: 6061-T6 extruded aluminum bar stock, machined to the exact dimensions of the stator magnets (except I really did use a 3/16 hole, the magnets are a bit bigger here), spaced and oriented by trial and error, and in my unit, the pre-drilled holes for the stator magnets seemed close enough to the sweet positions so I just used them."

Thanks Mike

Missed that last line, but seems to clear it up and makes life easier!.

Cheers

Sean.
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