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[CLaNZeR]

Forgot to mention also

If you want to check out another resource for the OCMPMM then skip by my forums at http://www.overunity.org.uk/forum/ where we have dedicated Replicator area's building up.

I will still update my progress here, but easier to have a starting point where I can post my latest updates and post any intersting bits out after.
Saves filling this thread with crap hehe

Cheers

Sean.

[geodan]

Has anyone seen a graphic representation of this anywhere??


per Al - "But if you look at the later ones, you will see a 3.5 mm shaft instead of the 1/4-20 brass screw, and the 1/2 in hole in the rotor has been "plugged" with a Delrin insert to adapt to this shaft. The shaft is mounted in a dual ball bearing holder with a spring compression end-play eliminator, and the holder in turn is mounted on the base, in lieu of the brass screw. The rotor now simply slides on and off the shaft. For upside down runs I secure the rotor with a little retaining collar with a setscrew."

Thanks!

[g4macdad]

After building a near perfect replication of the OC video machine and testing for two days, we have had no indication of self running or acceleration or overunity. Will continue testing for a reasonable time.
I hope I'm wrong but I have a feeling that if I go to this site fifteen years from now, there will be a small group of guys still trying to get this device to work.
Our group has made the decision that we will not replicate any device in the future who's builder or inventor does not disclose their full name and will not allow public viewing of the device. It's such a childish way to go about things. We will just let other people invest their time, energy and money doing it.
Butch LaFonte

Yes we need to give up hope. This guy has and so should we I think I'll go buy some gas now.

[ken_nyus]

Al mention that he could make the stator sync at 4:1 and 12:1, and that fits nicely with this theory.

If I remember correctly the 12:1 was gearwise synchronization.

[ken_nyus]

Has anyone seen a graphic representation of this anywhere??


per Al - "But if you look at the later ones, you will see a 3.5 mm shaft instead of the 1/4-20 brass screw, and the 1/2 in hole in the rotor has been "plugged" with a Delrin insert to adapt to this shaft. The shaft is mounted in a dual ball bearing holder with a spring compression end-play eliminator, and the holder in turn is mounted on the base, in lieu of the brass screw. The rotor now simply slides on and off the shaft. For upside down runs I secure the rotor with a little retaining collar with a setscrew."

Thanks!

I have not seen any graphic, but I tried to follow any more info on this, and if I remember correctly, Al tried to explain it further, and also mention that this was a mechanism he took from the capstan(? or some other part) of an old reel-to-reel tape recorder.

[ken_nyus]

One thing I would like to mention in light of Lumen's theory of operation for this device...

When I went back and read through all of the conversations at Steorn, I noticed OC several times asking Al to please change the stator rotors to ceramic bearings.

Al did not respond to this point at all. He completely ignored this request. Who am I but just another idiot on the internet, but I feel that Al held something back about the stator bearings, and it may be the effect proposed by Lumen.

But I think Lumen's theory turns the device into circular version of Newton's Cradle/Pendulum, with energy being shuffled back and forth between the rotor and the stator with very little loss. This was also mentioned by someone a few pages back here.

I'm not sure how Lumens theory accounts for acceleration, I can see how it accounts for energy transfer between stator and rotor, but not for acceleration. In other words it does not explain a source of energy, but only a mechanism for transferring it from one place to another.

Why would Al ignore an obvious flaw in a magnetic device (steel bearings 1/16" away from a very strong magnet), and why would the physicists at his job just chuckle and smile when they see a device like this?

One explanation is it is just a non-obvious Newtons Cradle.

Just some random, paranoid internet thoughts here.

In other news I did get most of my raw materials delivered today (HDPE, Delrin, Alum, bearings, etc.) so my build moves forward slowly as the saga unfolds!

[geodan]

Has anyone seen a graphic representation of this anywhere??


per Al - "But if you look at the later ones, you will see a 3.5 mm shaft instead of the 1/4-20 brass screw, and the 1/2 in hole in the rotor has been "plugged" with a Delrin insert to adapt to this shaft. The shaft is mounted in a dual ball bearing holder with a spring compression end-play eliminator, and the holder in turn is mounted on the base, in lieu of the brass screw. The rotor now simply slides on and off the shaft. For upside down runs I secure the rotor with a little retaining collar with a setscrew."

Thanks!

I have not seen any graphic, but I tried to follow any more info on this, and if I remember correctly, Al tried to explain it further, and also mention that this was a mechanism he took from the capstan(? or some other part) of an old reel-to-reel tape recorder.

hmmm can't find it...
I'm still trying to get a quote for parts machining but this part is stumping SPM...    (I see CLaNZeR's rig,) What's everyone else doing to support the rotor, what kind of bearings? how high etc?
is there a stock part(s) available somewhere?

Thanks

 

[Yadaraf]

Has anyone seen a graphic representation of this anywhere??


per Al - "But if you look at the later ones, you will see a 3.5 mm shaft instead of the 1/4-20 brass screw, and the 1/2 in hole in the rotor has been "plugged" with a Delrin insert to adapt to this shaft. The shaft is mounted in a dual ball bearing holder with a spring compression end-play eliminator, and the holder in turn is mounted on the base, in lieu of the brass screw. The rotor now simply slides on and off the shaft. For upside down runs I secure the rotor with a little retaining collar with a setscrew."

Thanks!

I have not seen any graphic, but I tried to follow any more info on this, and if I remember correctly, Al tried to explain it further, and also mention that this was a mechanism he took from the capstan(? or some other part) of an old reel-to-reel tape recorder.

hmmm can't find it...
I'm still trying to get a quote for parts machining but this part is stumping SPM...    (I see CLaNZeR's rig,) What's everyone else doing to support the rotor, what kind of bearings? how high etc?
is there a stock part(s) available somewhere?

Thanks

 

No one seems to be using a tapered bearing (conical bearing), but that would be my choice for the rotor, because both axial and radial forces are present.

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapered_roller_bearing

 

Yada ..
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[sveinutne]

Al mention that he could make the stator sync at 4:1 and 12:1, and that fits nicely with this theory.

If I remember correctly the 12:1 was gearwise synchronization.

I think it was in AGW locking 4:1 and 12:1

Svein

[cub3]

guys,

I was looking at the stills and videos of Al's unit again and it seems to me that some of the rotor magnets are not centered, or so it seems. can some one take a look and confirm this? I was wondering if this "imbalance" of the magnets may be a key.

I agree they appear offset

cub3

[magnetman12003]

Hi Guys,

I am constructing my own replication version of this motor setup.
I have a single question to ask.

On the original motor there are 13 holes in a circle around the main rotor that the stator magnets could be placed in. Figure counting clockwise.

Say I started and placed my first stator magnet in hole #1 then what would be the correct next couple hole numbers that the other two stator magnets would be placed in?

I see many different setup ideas regarding the stator magnet placement.  Your help will be most appreciated.

Tom

[magnetman12003]

It seems like the inventor should again demonstrate his/this motor device outdoors on a glass top backyard patio table in BROAD DAYLIGHT. With his sleeves rolled up to show credibility once and for all.  All movie clips should be of excellent quality.

Just how hard would that be to do?

Tom

[Craigy]

Has anyone seen a graphic representation of this anywhere??


per Al - "But if you look at the later ones, you will see a 3.5 mm shaft instead of the 1/4-20 brass screw, and the 1/2 in hole in the rotor has been "plugged" with a Delrin insert to adapt to this shaft. The shaft is mounted in a dual ball bearing holder with a spring compression end-play eliminator, and the holder in turn is mounted on the base, in lieu of the brass screw. The rotor now simply slides on and off the shaft. For upside down runs I secure the rotor with a little retaining collar with a setscrew."

Thanks!

I have not seen any graphic, but I tried to follow any more info on this, and if I remember correctly, Al tried to explain it further, and also mention that this was a mechanism he took from the capstan(? or some other part) of an old reel-to-reel tape recorder.

hmmm can't find it...
I'm still trying to get a quote for parts machining but this part is stumping SPM...    (I see CLaNZeR's rig,) What's everyone else doing to support the rotor, what kind of bearings? how high etc?
is there a stock part(s) available somewhere?

Thanks

 

Ever thought of turning down a bit of brass threaded rod. Easy on a lathe , but possible using just a drill and a micrometer. Takes a lot of filing , here is one i prepared earlier

[Nicolas Roger]

Hi,
more picture from the LaFonte group.

video coming soon.

[Nicolas Roger]

Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/v/2Dc2xTHYx0o