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[Zendalar]

What if the stator magnets were to be made movable , for a while.

Make those movable in the way that they can move around the plate on a bigger diameter in a groove like this "("

And after this make the stator magnets loose and rotate the plate with the help of a motor and see if the stator magnets stop to a certain position in the groove that was made earlier..Lock the stator magnets and and try with this setup?

Just like the way they try to find out the best place to put subwoofer. Put the subwoofer where you sit, and find the place where it sounds best..

Just an idea, hopefully you understood what i meant

[hydrocontrol]

Since the only thing that counts is successful replication, it is looking more and more like the original device was a fake.
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There has been enough video evidence besides Al's video to show that there is something strange going on between the rotor and the stator. Even Al had stated it took weeks of playing around and multiple stators to get it to work. And that was just by chance. It is more like the original is a fluke than a fake. Just the right combination of rotor / stator mass, distance, magnet strength..etc ... With multiple people working and dissecting what has been present and documented I feel it will eventually get figured out and maybe a better system that is easier to reproduce will be presented. Or maybe it will be determined it is a fake. With just a couple weeks out of the starting gate it really is to hard to tell and I am not ready yet to proclaim it is dead.

[canam101]

Since the only thing that counts is successful replication, it is looking more and more like the original device was a fake.

There has been enough video evidence besides Al's video to show that there is something strange going on between the rotor and the stator.
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What? I didn't think anybody had gotten acceleration, just agw lock, which is chickenfeed, apparently.

With just a couple weeks out of the starting gate it really is to hard to tell and I am not ready yet to proclaim it is dead.

Maybe so, but I doubt it. I think it is as dead as Stiffler's amazing circuit. Dead, dead, dead.

[emitremmah]

Don't know if anyone else has noticed this but things could be misleading.
1) the little square something on the edge of the rotor to the left of the top marking.(pointed out earlier)
2) The rotor is actually made of a clear type of plastic, not white, This is demonstrated by the sticky tape put on the top makes the that area clear. Just like when you [ut clear sticky tape on a frosted window you can see clearly through it. I would say the white colouring is just a rough surface from milling or cuttin. It is not that the rotor is opaque. This may mean that the HDPE which I think is white is not what the rotor is mode of.
3) Through the clear area of the rotor yo can see the central shaft. Maybe more information can be found here also.

Just some notes while I wait to hear more from the replicatiors.

Bernard

ps. Dr. Stiffler's circuit is dead yet by far. It is also the only 'free energy' device I have seen work. Evenm though it is not in the megawatts. I would like to see you ligt 50 leds with a single wire with no energy input.

[ken_nyus]

I took two screen shots on my scope showing the relationship of the stator and rotor at the crossing of the stator while in AGW rotational lock.
Someone could maybe overlay them for a better reference.

Thanks Lumen for sharing this!

[PolyMatrix]

You guys probably know a LOT more than I do about magnetic fields so I hope you don't mind me stating some observations I have made while playing with some magnets, under very primitive circumstances.

1. Compared the point where magnet overcomes the moment of inertia for a screw and a staple. Result both seemed to start at the same distance from the magnet.

2. Attraction of NS poles can supply a turning moment of just over 120degrees.

3. Magnetic fields do not seem to react instantaneously to each other when another magnet is travelling at speed, but this may just be due to friction in the system or the problem of overcoming the moment of inertia of the mass holding a magnetic field.

4. Obviously a very small change at the point where N changes to S starts a 180degree(?) movement in another freely rotating magnet. (? because the attracting poles 'hang on' for as long as they can!)

5. Observation seems to suggest that the acceleration of magnet to magnet or magnet to steel or strong magnet to weak magnet is the same for each of these situations but difficult to confirm.

Have looked to confirm these observations but with no result if someone can post a link showing me any or all these observation are incorrect I would be grateful.

Have a feeling that confirming these experiments and observations may help in tuning the OC-MPMM.

[RunningBare]

Copied from the Steorn forum.

He told us he was sure it was not OU, and was due to a 17000 joule source of energy (a double-A battery?). The clues were all there, but we didn't tumble to the joke; instead, people spent time and money building replicas.

In that case, If I were in Al's shoes, I might be too embarrassed to admit the joke at this point.

Two NiMH AA batteries will deliver 18144 joules
http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Energy-tables.html

Draw your own conclusions

[Jdo300]

What? I didn't think anybody had gotten acceleration, just agw lock, which is chickenfeed, apparently.

CLaNZeR got one of his early rigs to accelerate for a moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9au4O6_QuSs

Also Omnibus reportedly got his setup to accelerate, so it is just a matter of time.

Patience young caterpillar...

God Bless,
Jason O

[Bruce_TPU]

Copied from the Steorn forum.

He told us he was sure it was not OU, and was due to a 17000 joule source of energy (a double-A battery?). The clues were all there, but we didn't tumble to the joke; instead, people spent time and money building replicas.

In that case, If I were in Al's shoes, I might be too embarrassed to admit the joke at this point.

Two NiMH AA batteries will deliver 18144 joules
http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Energy-tables.html

Draw your own conclusions

The entire exchange was based on the math of the time it took to decelerate.  The statement in context.  Also, another Steorn Forum member assisted with the math, if I recall.

He has actually encouraged people to replicate, so I do not think that at all.  We have had what, three or four replications, some with positive results, and everyone is ready to shoot the messenger.  Not me.   

Some people are actually trust worthy.  Just because a few could not self sustain, yet, does not make Al a liar.

Cheers,
Bruce

[unzapped]

Hello all... sorry for not having posted any updates on the purchase of milled parts... I will not be pursuing this design any longer as the original video is most likely a misrepresentation.

I think maybe AL had given up on the designs for OC... but thought maybe some interest might spark further testing and replications... This is just MY opinion and not based on anyone else's.

The very fact that ANYONE would build something like this, and pour pessimism, evading the possibility of OU so vehemently is ridiculous. I would pee my pants as I think most of you would if you could make this thing run like in his video.

He already put up one video, a second better video would be very easy.

Replicators keep on keepin on, but beware you may have nothing more than an interesting toy and a sore finger....

You guys are awesome... for now I will go back to grazing this and many other forums on my search for potential OU.... at least this one got me to register... @ Clanzer, I have registered in your forum... I admire your abilities, and your perseverance in building all these gadgets, I truly believe if anyone can replicate something it would be you.

I'll be watching, but with a more skeptical eye...

-peace out!
UZ

[starcruiser]

Jason,

I appears that CLaNZeR has shown some promise in the video link you posted. It did accelerate for a moment, but I did notice that he did not use the dampers on as of yet. Definitely more to check and test it seems. From all that I have seen it appears it is a mix of several factors that need to be mastered in order to obtain the operation.

While I am not replicating I am hoping that you guys continue to pursue this and achieve success in your replications!

[dean_mcgowan]

This parrot's stuffed !! .. canman .. your a pessimist

[CLaNZeR]

Well enough of Sore fingers this end trying randon configs, so now I am happy with my Rotor and Stators, will start the boring task of altering Stator height and Air Gap.

Movie update below:

YouTube fair resolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giR97ydMY2I

Or higher Resolution on direct download link
http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/CLaNZeRSRuler1.wmv

Cheers

Sean.

[Dansway]

Nice vid CLaNZeR...!

 

 ha ha ha

Dan

[CLaNZeR]

Howdy All
Well here's my setup and a bit of data
Rotor bearings - Gulf Bearing # R1-814-HA3 or R188
Stator - Bearings, # R3-HA1

Looking very good mate, well done.

Cheers

Sean.

EDIT I just noticed you only got 6 rotor magnets?