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[Omnibus]

@vipon50,

Thanks. Hopefully I'll also have some quantitative results then to compare notes.

[vipond50]

Bill,

This device is different from the original OC concept. Once OC saw this in operation, he felt an equal distribution of stators would be desired, rather than the odd-13 arrangement from his original idea.

Running multi-stators in this un-equal arrangement may be a dead end.

I think the 4-1 ration has been established, and my thought is that 4-1 will hard to maintain with an un-equal arrangment (ie. stators interacting with the rotor in a way that inhibits the other stators)

It is obviously working for you, but they may be fighting each other.

Good Day Ken
Sorry to be dense on this, so Al changed the 13 count to what ? Sorry

Bill

[Omnibus]

Bill,

This device is different from the original OC concept. Once OC saw this in operation, he felt an equal distribution of stators would be desired, rather than the odd-13 arrangement from his original idea.

Running multi-stators in this un-equal arrangement may be a dead end.

I think the 4-1 ration has been established, and my thought is that 4-1 will hard to maintain with an un-equal arrangment (ie. stators interacting with the rotor in a way that inhibits the other stators)

It is obviously working for you, but they may be fighting each other.

OC's opinion is utterly unimportant. What we need to know is what @alsetalokin did in his video. Was the base there made for 13 stators or not? I think we all here presume it was the 13-stator base and Jason's drawings reflect that.

Recall, Jason sent him the drawings and he approved of the 13-stator base.

[vipond50]

Bill,

This device is different from the original OC concept. Once OC saw this in operation, he felt an equal distribution of stators would be desired, rather than the odd-13 arrangement from his original idea.

Running multi-stators in this un-equal arrangement may be a dead end.

I think the 4-1 ration has been established, and my thought is that 4-1 will hard to maintain with an un-equal arrangment (ie. stators interacting with the rotor in a way that inhibits the other stators)

It is obviously working for you, but they may be fighting each other.

OC's opinion is utterly unimportant. What we need to know is what @alsetalokin did in his video. Was the base there made for 13 stators or not? I think we all here presume it was the 13-stator base and Jason's drawings reflect that.

Recall, Jason sent him the drawings and he approved of the 13-stator base.

Yep I concur and that what my Dwg's reflect also.
The Video was to show that all three stators can and will operate at any given time. When the device operated this morning" the one minute run" it was with one Stator in sync and the other two were running gear wise.

Thanks
Bill

[geodan]

repost from steorn to my request for a translation...

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      CommentAuthorDirtfarmer
    * CommentTime1 minute ago

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@geodanz...
...Implies an asymmetric field for reasons unknown... The "symettry" traces show the uninterfered waveforms, of rotor and stator, but the dual trace shows quite a different trace for "upspin", and "downspin" (als' parlance...)
Intriguing.
Goodwill,
-Dirtfarmer

[ken_nyus]

OC's opinion is utterly unimportant.

I understand Omnibus, and agree.

What we need to know is what @alsetalokin did in his video. Was the base there made for 13 stators or not? I think we all here presume it was the 13-stator base and Jason's drawings reflect that.

Recall, jason sent him the drawings and he approved of the 13-stator base.

I agree the working device used the 13 stator base.

But I don't think there is any evidence or assumption of it working for more than one stator AGW.

My reasons for thinking equal spacing of the stators would be better when running more than one stator AGW are:

The 4-1 ratio, and the speedup-slowdown operation of the stator, and the pulsing this must induce in the rotor/whole system.

All speculation, and of course reliable reproduction first is more important.

[Shirakawa]

Hi Bill, let's hope you will not disappear and "get rid" of your MPMM when you'll supposedly manage to make it work, like you did with your joe-cell powered car. http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Joe_Cell:Replications:Bill_Williams ...

[g4macdad]

Hi Bill, let's hope you will not disappear and "get rid" of your MPMM when you'll supposedly manage to make it work, like you did with your joe-cell powered car. http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Joe_Cell:Replications:Bill_Williams ...

What is the fascination that so many people have with soiling the potential of something new and good?  In reading through posts, one wonders of what else their lives consist?  Such an enormous portion of personal time spent online seeking out ideas and people to destroy.  If they feel they know for sure that it isn't real - they could simply stop paying attention.  Ferreting out the truth may be their stated goal - but their hidden one is the thrill of destroying the person or their idea - any person or idea, it doesn't really matter who or what - it's the potential for anonymous personal destruction which attracts them.

That having been said, the Steorn Forum has become a locus for people who engage in this.  Surely Al recognises this.  He had to know that anyone sticking their head up there would attract the pack.  Considering that - that he would just, you know, take his ball and go home...  To give in to them?  To let them win?  Very disappointing.  It's the first thing he's done in all of this that seems to me to lack integrity - and it causes me to wonder, for the first time, whether he played it straight from the beginning.

Of course, that also shows that I'm waaaay too involved, as a bystander, in this drama.  I wish the replicators success in duplicating whatever it was that Al ash-canned!

By the way - great video, plasmasd!  "With great power comes great responsibility", indeed!  I had to watch it several times, I laughed so hard.

[vipond50]

Was looking at the Rotor to Stator ratios and logged these numbers
Hand spin up with one Stator in Sync and the other Two stopped.
Rotor RPM - 667
Stator RPM - 2230
R = 3.348 to 1

Second Attempt
Rotor RPM - 736.3
Stator RPM - 2542
R = 3.4523 to 1

B.

[vipond50]

Hi Bill, let's hope you will not disappear and "get rid" of your MPMM when you'll supposedly manage to make it work, like you did with your joe-cell powered car. http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Joe_Cell:Replications:Bill_Williams ...

What is the fascination that so many people have with soiling the potential of something new and good?  In reading through posts, one wonders of what else their lives consist?  Such an enormous portion of personal time spent online seeking out ideas and people to destroy.  If they feel they know for sure that it isn't real - they could simply stop paying attention.  Ferreting out the truth may be their stated goal - but their hidden one is the thrill of destroying the person or their idea - any person or idea, it doesn't really matter who or what - it's the potential for anonymous personal destruction which attracts them.

That having been said, the Steorn Forum has become a locus for people who engage in this.  Surely Al recognises this.  He had to know that anyone sticking their head up there would attract the pack.  Considering that - that he would just, you know, take his ball and go home...  To give in to them?  To let them win?  Very disappointing.  It's the first thing he's done in all of this that seems to me to lack integrity - and it causes me to wonder, for the first time, whether he played it straight from the beginning.

Of course, that also shows that I'm waaaay too involved, as a bystander, in this drama.  I wish the replicators success in duplicating whatever it was that Al ash-canned!

By the way - great video, plasmasd!  "With great power comes great responsibility", indeed!  I had to watch it several times, I laughed so hard.

So here we go again.... huh ?
Must feel good
What have U two done in the past few years other than stir the pot.

Have Fun
Bill