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[geodan]

Omnibus,

You yourself seem a little evasive regarding posting even a simple pic of your rig ... umm why ?

And please dont say quantative something something quantative bla bla bla quantative etc ...

Cheers,

Dean

Keep your opinions to yourself. Quantitative results have their meaning in science and if you don't know that it's your problem.

It wasn't my opinion it was a quantitative analysis of how many posts you have made stating you have a replication compared to the evidence that you have.

Cheers,

Dean

That's a silly use of the term 'quantitative'.

As for me posting scientific data, I always prefer to post or publish such data when there's something worth publishing, some contribution. Some people enjoy making videos and pics showing every step of the construction and there's nothing bad in that. That's not my style, however.

Would you guys mind taking that outside?

[dean_mcgowan]

@ Omni,
I see, I am silly and you are doing scientific research.
I can work with that ...hahahahah

Cheers,

Dean

[supersam]

@omnibus,

and this from the scientist that has brought all of this to us by, unashamedly, provoking alsetalokin to post the video against his wishes.  HA!  i think al may have had a great mentor, that is very pissed at him at this time!  thanks for all that you have done to prove a belief!!  it seems to really be working for you.

oh by the way, i hate to violate your since of integrity to the scientific community and all, but since you brought it up, can you show us a video or some pictures of your set up that is accellerating?

lol
sam

[Omnibus]

Just to add a bit. Many here have noticed how adamantly I'm defending the violation of CoE by SMOT. Because this firm finding is of utmost importance for the field and it's rigorously proven, I'm presenting it at every point of the discussion I find appropriate. I assure you I'll do the same with the results of this replication should they turn out to be of any scientific importance. For now, I've only seen qualitatively promising effects and in order for one to defend them vigorously (as I defend the conclusive analysis for the violation of CoE by SMOT) one has to explore these effects more thoroughly and quantitatively. To show such effects qualitatively, short of an outright acceleration, never mind qualitative, as in @alsetalokin's video, is premature.

[Omnibus]

@omnibus,

and this from the scientist that has brought all of this to us by, unashamedly, provoking alsetalokin to post the video against his wishes.  HA!  i think al may have had a great mentor, that is very pissed at him at this time!  thanks for all that you have done to prove a belief!!  it seems to really be working for you.

oh by the way, i hate to violate your since of integrity to the scientific community and all, but since you brought it up, can you show us a video or some pictures of your set up that is accellerating?

lol
sam

No, I can't. Read above why. As for @alsetalokin showing the video, that was the most natural thing to do having made all these claims. I'd show a video such as this any time and will defend it vigorously, not cowardly agreeing with my enemies accusing me of fraud, as @alsetalonkin did when some poor slob started posting abusive videos on youtube. If I were his mentor I'd really be pissed with him and I'm not alone in that.

[supersam]

@ omnibus,

thanks for the reply before i wrote it.  i guess they say  "great minds think alike"  i can't wait for your hoped for quantatative results.  however it would be nice for other replicators of this project if you could at least share any qualitative results in the meantime!  or if you could share any preliminary quantatative results good or bad.  i can only see positive things from doing this.  even if you are not succeeding it may point to an answer for someone else or at least keep someone els from wasting time on an experiment that has no merit.

lol
sam

ps: have you got any video of your setup, or perhaps pictures that you can share with the rest of the replicators, and us early watchers that got here late?

[RunningBare]

@RunningBare,

You have no restraint, haven't you. If someone's silly you won't allow that. You always need to be sillier and to show that.

Would you like to see my replication of the OCAL?

[Omnibus]

@ omnibus,

thanks for the reply before i wrote it.  i guess they say  "great minds think alike"  i can't wait for your hoped for quantatative results.  however it would be nice for other replicators of this project if you could at least share any qualitative results in the meantime!  or if you could share any preliminary quantatative results good or bad.  i can only see positive things from doing this.  even if you are not succeeding it may point to an answer for someone else or at least keep someone els from wasting time on an experiment that has no merit.

lol
sam

ps: have you got any video of your setup, or perhaps pictures that you can share with the rest of the replicators, and us early watchers that got here late?

No, I don't have a video yet. I was all prepared but didn't find the reason to video anything. This will happen in time if results worthy of showing emerge. As for some details and even preliminary data, I posted some a page or two back.

[Omnibus]

@RunningBare,

You have no restraint, haven't you. If someone's silly you won't allow that. You always need to be sillier and to show that.

Would you like to see my replication of the OCAL?

If that's your replication: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cBygG9oN9gY no, thanks. We're still under the presumption that @alsetalokin's isn't a fraud.

[znel]

  Children, children, children... and you guys talk about Al's childish video then start a little pissing match all of your own.  Come on  guys, finish up here and get back to something productive.   

[cub3]

  Children, children, children... and you guys talk about Al's childish video then start a little pissing match all of your own.  Come on  guys, finish up here and get back to something productive.   

znel, My apologies, surely you meant Girls, girls, girls........... all this hair pulling, scratching and bit*h slapping has to stop.
Real MEN would take it outside, as was suggested earlier.

Den

[plengo]

I cant believe I waisted my time reading 20 last posts thinking I will learn something new. I really wish this nonsence stuff would be OUT OF THIS FORUM.

Can we just keep the science here and move on? There are other threads for discussion such as emotionals, non-scientific, waistfull and simple stupid.

Fausto.

[supersam]

@at all,

shuttinup, shuttinup! just keep up the good work.

lol
sam

[Bruce_TPU]

Hi Bill,

Good to know our bearings work, since we have the identical ones.  I agree that this is the first thing we change.  Super precision run about $6.00 each.  I think perhaps super precision, stainless steel, eh?

Which magnets have you got for the rotor?  Have you ordered any N35's?

I would like to see a drawing of how you used two bearings for your stators.

Great job!!   

Bruce

Hey Bruce
my mags are N42's 1/4" dia X 1/4" long, I stacked them(four) i did this so i could have some adjustably
I will post a stator disassembled for all to see the config.

have U come up with a non magnetic bearing from Mike" Even SS would be better that the all steel ones we are utilizing.

Regards
Bill

Yes, I definitely agree!  Though, I like the results with ours, thus far.  I built an ugly dirty model today.  I wanted to see how I wanted to connect the rotor, etc.  I learned a lot.  I used PEX flex .5 ID for stator holders, and used a dremel to grind a bit for a better fit for the magnets.  Bearings fit fine.

I drilled my rotor slightly off, so it has a nice wobble (I am just playing until the machined parts arrive next week, using Jason's accurate blueprints!  )

I oiled the bearings and they are smooth.  I played this evening.  I saw it sync and have a sustained run of near 30 seconds, many times.  A very cool sight to see.  Sore but happy fingers.  And this with the ugliest setup on the planet!  LOL  No pictures or vids, until the real deal is here. 

BUT I will say this...From what I have seen tonight, I am confident in the truth of Al's machine.  I think that it will be a matter of engineering.  I also want to use my N35's for the machined pieces coming.

Bearings, proper distance between stator and rotor (5mm) and proper distance of the plane from top of stator magnet to bottom of rotor magnet plane. 

I do not think this "anomaly" is either the material used nor the bearings being steel.  I think it is solely the magnetic field interactions.  IMHO  That said, I plan on even looking into air bearings Monday, if Mike is there.  It is a holiday, but I will see.  I will post the info when I get a hold of him.

@ All
I am starting a debate thread.  If you have a beef with someone, you can take it there, and leave this thread for magnet motor discussion.  The fighting is growing old.

Happy days,   
Bruce

[Omnibus]

Arranged the rotor magnets just for the heck of it as NSNSNSNSNSNSNSNS and tried it with the three stators in various configs as well as with 2 and 1 stator, raising the rotor several times with washers. Rotor seems a little happier--wind down time close to 30s, stators lose rotation at higher rpm and only tremble. Now, back to the standard arrangement.