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[Omnibus]

@mramos and @superasm,

Go away. You were told you are parasites in this site having neither the expertise to deserve answers nor the the knowledge how scientific research is conducted. You are useless here. Go away.

[RunningBare]

never mind

[supersam]

damnit!!! start another thread!!!!!!! just take it outside!!!!!  do you guys not know how to pm each other?  and you are supposed to believe your scientists?  RIGHT???

lol
sam

PS:  PUSSWHIPS LEAVE IT THE DOOR!

[supersam]

@ALL,

MEANWHILE BACK AT THE RANCH,  YADARIF, POSTED SOME VERY MEANINFUL FACTS!!!!!!!!! I SUGGEST EVERYONE BACKUP AND LOOK AT THEM.  certain wavelengths have a tendancy to add to others.  you might want to take a look at the ones yadarif found while you were all in a teasey about science! 

lol
sam

[RunningBare]

Well, there goes the neighborhood, thank goodness for FizzX.com and overunity.org

[JFK]

Well, this motor MUST have possibilities....

The trolls have invaded with the intent of disruption.

And a fine job they are doing IMO.

[supersam]

@runningbare,

RIGHT!  THEY ARE DREAMING TO BE WHAT THIS SITE IS!

LOL
sam

ps: take it to the debate site, or pm me for any responses,  none are guarateed from these, but i will assure you none will be replied to from here!!!!!

[Omnibus]

This forum is one of the best for the purposes of discussing OU, in any event much better than Steorn let alone Fizzx forums. That's why the trolls are descending on it with the intent to destroy it. It won't pass, however.

[supersam]

@yadrif, omni, and all,

please may we all have a pleasant discution of the facts?  yadrif has brought forth some very important facts about how waves intereact.  i think you can all agree with having ever been in the oceon.  the first time i attempted surfing i failed misserably.  as i gradually began to realise the importance of feeling the ocean currents of ,waves building, i realized, what that meant.  power was not just there, but it started to build, crescendoed, and started to ebb.  only to build again.  that is just the waves work.  whether, we want them to work on 50 or 60 Hz per second or not.  natural energy waves work at different frequencies all the time, when you are looking at big energies.  i am not saying that the observed energies of quartz or the observed vibrations of an iorn atom are wrong.  however the way we translate these into big energies, may be.

if we take a look at the works of TESLA, i think we can all understand the diffierence of small energy, and , big energy.

the thing we are looking at here has to do with magnetics,  why?  a childs game?  i think not.  if we are able to figure out the "sticky part" of the childs game, then we figure the difference between the small and the very large difference in "POWER"!!!!!!

[sterlinga]

Fingers crossed guys and gals


http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60180&page=2#Item_5

Turbinator wrote:
 
Without going into too much detail, I had a sustained rotor yesterday evening while fooling around around with the stators; The stators were not rotating but oscillating slightly (and with a rod mag attached to each stator - like i said i was tinkering!), the rotor was hand spooled and left to run down while i was doing something else..... strangely it held at around 300rpm. I will investigate further and keep a camera handy.

I tried the above experiment tonight with my wrong sized rotor.  9 mm distance from stator to rotor edge.  Rotor 3/8" shorter than Jason's Cad drawing.

Did the above test.  About 5 hours worth.  I am waiting for a tach to arrive to confirm.  I saw and heard the rotor accelerate almost every time.  Sometimes for about 2 seconds, sometimes longer.  Different configs gave me different results.  Sometimes very long steady runs but no acceleration and sometimes accelerations. 
[...]

Bruce

Congrats Bruce!

I'll be featuring this in my news tomorrow:

Bruce TPU Replicates Turbinator's Effect - Placing a loose rotor magnet on top of the round stator magnet, Bruce_TPU said he was able to repeatedly achieve acceleration for about two seconds, and sometimes sustained rotation. (PESWiki; Feb. 2)
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MPMM:Replications:Bruce_TPU

(http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/OC_MPMM/Bruce_TPM_MPMM_replica_95x95.jpg)

[sterlinga]

This is one of the few places in the world where the statement "May you have runaway, with magnets flying all over the room" is actually a warm fuzzy statement that people wouldn't mind have happen to them.

[Omnibus]

@All,

Now, before I send the rotor I'm experimenting with to the machine shop to have the extra 45g taken off I thought I might give you some more soundtracks to munch on. All of these start at around 400rpm. Also, I should say that I'm spinning the rotor at the initial rpm the way @alsetalokin does it in the video and, get this, with the N45's on top of stators it's easier to spin it to the desired rpm than without the N45's. So, what do we hear here--less energy causes longer winding down of the rotor when N45's are present plus some funny screeching noises heard at three places, not present in absence of N45.

[sterlinga]

@mramos,
None running...and even if they did they would then face the degaussing issue. However I think what they have all missed is if they call it a smot device is should run...just ask omi.
I witnessed a self starting magnetic motor last year...which could easily run for 10 minutes...appeared to accerate when the stator arm was brought in over the rotor. Had me fooled for 20 minutes. However it eventually slowed down. (You guys would have wet yourself if it was posted on youtube).
As an exercise, can anyone tell me why it might have appeared as a self starter...when indeed it wasnt?
The clues are in the words above.
Mark

@Mark,

I think what you are implying is that the 10 minutes of running in the situation you are describing was due to the bringing of the stator magnet into position, serving to sort of spring-load the device, which then eventually dissapated.

However, Al reports to have run his motor for 7 hours continues, at which point he shut it off so he could go to bed.  Also, in Al's situation, the stator magnets are already in place, and once they get in sync with the rotor, they cause the aparatus to ACCELERATE.

At least five people have replicated Al's effect to some degree:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MPMM:Replications

For these reasons, I don't think your skepticism from your other experience can be tranferred here.

Furthermore, it may be reason to have hope that your other scenario may be legit after all -- just very early in R&D, with a lot of characterizing and engineering before it will be of practical value.  If I recall correctly, that set-up was quite similar to OC / Al's

Sterling

[sterlinga]

[...]
Is there a video?  [...] Any proof??  At all??

CLaNZeR's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZPI5BwccsA shows ~ two seconds of acceleration.  http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MPMM:Replications:CLaNZeR

[Omnibus]

Of course, the goal is self-sustaining run after acceleration without external energy input as seen in @alsetalokin?s video. Achieving this obviously requires tuning up of the device?a device which, as seen, isn?t foreign to exhibiting peculiar behavior. If you don?t tune up your violin the audience may not like what they hear from you (unless it?s avant-garde music but that?s another score). Even the most common internal combustion engines need tune up to work. Therefore, one cannot ignore the parameters that make our device work and one very important such parameter is the weight of the rotor. Another very important parameter is the magnetic induction profile of the rotor and stator magnets. First things first, however. I?ll take care, as I said, first of the rotor weight and hopefully will have it down from the current 303g to the specified 258g by Tuesday. Hopefully by then we?ll hear from @alsetalokin with some further specifics regarding his working device. One important thing to ask him is whether or not he still can reproduce the effect shown in his first video.