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Author Topic: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??  (Read 158511 times)

Bruce_TPU

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2070 on: February 03, 2008, 05:31:58 AM »
All,

Not being a pain, just plain logic at this point as none of us have made anything near over-unity yet.  Or I missed the thread.

Sam,

If the wavelengths add (yadrif),  what does it add?  Power/Current?  What is your point as you have posted this a few times now?  Please tell us what we are missing?  You need to put in an E and get a bigger E out.

If I put 1vac into a 1:10 transformer, I get 10 vac out.  I did not get 10 times more power out?  I lost a lot of current to make 10 volts AC.

Sterling,

So "Bruce said" and you feature him?  Do you check these claims out first or just feature them (and yes I do read your website everyday)? 

If you check them out, normally the ones that run a bit need a helping hand to start them off.  More power "to start them" than they offer when they stop running.

mramos, please chill out.

I made a statement of what I saw and heard.  Not a "Claim" of anything.  I only posted it after Jason talked me into it, to encourage some of the others to "play" with theirs or attempt a replication.

Omnibus is a real professor and what field is not important.  He has his own way of looking at things just as you have your own way.

Normally you are much more useful in your comments.  So please assist the replication effort, or patiently lurk watching those of us investing hundreds of dollars on this replication attempt to take baby steps towards replicating and then understanding why Al's rig works.  (and hopefully soon, ours)

@ All
Tonight I purchased a webcam and will attempt to put together a video tomorrow with sound to post to youtube.  I live in a very rural area with only dial up.  It makes life tough.  But I will have a video soon, so be patient, or build your own.   ;)  My Tach will not be in until Wed.  Then I can look at the numbers. 

I am wanting to replicate Al's rig.  What I have seen and heard with this set up, is a "taunt" of a couple of seconds, what there is with Al's rig.  IMHO

So please be respectful to one another or take it to the debate thread.  This is simply a common courtesy being asked.  (no wonder Al stopped posting.  Jeesh....)

Cheers, 

Bruce
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2070 on: February 03, 2008, 05:31:58 AM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2071 on: February 03, 2008, 07:12:17 AM »
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:-[  I didn't mean to open a hornet's nest by discussing Schumann Resonances, but because they are electromagnetic resonances and the WhipMag is a magnetic device [that resonates], I was simply positing a hypothesis.  Wikipedia -- believe it or not -- has a very good presentation on this subject.  Note that Tesla (friend to Alsetalokin  ;D) was a pioneer in this field in 1905.

As for analyzing Omni's soundtrack, it's one thing to report a "noise" and it's another to quantify and document that noise.  I was simply trying to assist Omni and others in the pursuit of a common ground for discussing this phenomenon.  I've been using signal analysis tools since the 80's -- mostly to study man-made acoustic signals, but also image spectra.

I'm reposting the analysis below, only to clarify that the peaks at 63 Hz and 2 kHz correspond to the noise(s) that Omni "heard" when his device spun down to 230 rpm -- around 18 seconds into the soundtrack. The timestamp of 00:15:54 is an artifact of the screen capture.  That's all.  Infer what you will.

I was drawn to this thread because the title was very general: "Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??"  It's a very general title that implies "WTF?", which for better or worse will attract all kinds of replies.  Agreed ... my replies are "out there," but so is the answer to the question "Why does it spin?"  Again for better or worse, you're stuck with me until I see an answer.   :D

Keep up the very excellent work.  I envy you who have devices.

Cheers,

Yada..
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2071 on: February 03, 2008, 07:12:17 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2072 on: February 03, 2008, 07:25:16 AM »
@Sterling,

There is still nothing more than a claim by an anonymous poster that he has a device that supposedly ran for 7 hours.
NO PROOF .. nothing .. ZIP NADA NULL !!

BTW if you read the thread where he claims this you will see that he states he has no intention of leaving it run unattended then almost immediately proceeds to leave it run overnight UNATTENDED !! HELOOOOOO !!
I want to believe this is possible but some people are using blind faith and thats sad.

Cheers,

Dean
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2073 on: February 03, 2008, 07:38:18 AM »
I have registered for one purpose and one purpose only. I just can't *stand* it anymore and I have to say something.

People's names get an @ sign in front of them if you are speaking "at" them. You don't need to put an @ sign in front of everyone's name, every single time. You use it when you are addressing someone directly, or responding to a comment they made. You don't use it when you are talking *about* them.

Example:

1)  @Omnibus: could you please stop using unneeded @ signs?
2)  I really hope Alsetalokin's motor turns out to be the next big thing.

See the magic there? I referred to Alsetalokin, but I didn't need to put an @ sign in front of his name, because I was talking about him in passing, not speaking directly to him.

I'm sorry to draw attention to this but with such erudite discussion going on, this simple little detail is driving me crazy.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2073 on: February 03, 2008, 07:38:18 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2074 on: February 03, 2008, 07:46:16 AM »
@baobab68,

Welcome @board :D

Cheers,
Dean
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2075 on: February 03, 2008, 07:49:19 AM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2075 on: February 03, 2008, 07:49:19 AM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2076 on: February 03, 2008, 07:53:58 AM »
@ Sterling,

I really think you should consider adding Omnibus's claim of replication to your site. He can be famous too
and you can plug your site here one more time :S

Cheers,

Dean
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2076 on: February 03, 2008, 07:53:58 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2077 on: February 03, 2008, 08:21:56 AM »
@ Sterling,

I really think you should consider adding Omnibus's claim of replication to your site.

Dean

Here you go: http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MPMM:Replications:omnibus

It's been there since Jan. 16.  He's one of the first who appeart to have had some degree of success.

Sterling
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2077 on: February 03, 2008, 08:21:56 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2078 on: February 03, 2008, 08:36:56 AM »
@Sterling,

Walked right into that one didn't I ... Touche ;)

Cheers,
Dean
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2078 on: February 03, 2008, 08:36:56 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2079 on: February 03, 2008, 09:07:21 AM »
Hi Dean

"BTW if you read the thread where he claims this you will see that he states he has no intention of leaving it run unattended then almost immediately proceeds to leave it run overnight UNATTENDED !! HELOOOOOO !!"

But you left out the part about after 7+ hours he shut the device down and went to bed.

What insight would be gained by an unattended failure of the device beyond an obvious mechanical failure?

AL provided us with information about his findings. He has asked for nothing in return.

This information was presented for us to accept or reject, Do you have any evidence beyond supposition proving  subterfuge or deceit you would like to present?

Many here have seen value in AL's information and have spent time and treasure, and validated some of his information to be of value.

There are believers and sceptics in science, both have their place as they should. But no one knows for sure until the papers are published.

Tinker












 
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2079 on: February 03, 2008, 09:07:21 AM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2080 on: February 03, 2008, 09:29:48 AM »
@ Yadaraf

Thanks for posting; would it be a good idea to put Al's original Youtube sound track alongside it for comparison?

Just speculating on waveforms and the soliton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliton came to mind but can't figure how you could get that effect with magnetic waves. Still fairly certain that its to do with the elements of magnetic power, turning moment of inertia, so weight and radius are important, and a small vibration element in both or one of the rotor and/or stator.

The idea of a magnetic soliton would make the physicists and mathematicians very happy  ;D

As anybody who has played with magnets knows a stronger magnet when it gets close enough to a weaker magnet is attracted to it like it was steel.

Not sure if the mathematical model of magnets includes that datum.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2080 on: February 03, 2008, 09:29:48 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2081 on: February 03, 2008, 09:56:58 AM »
Hi Dean

"BTW if you read the thread where he claims this you will see that he states he has no intention of leaving it run unattended then almost immediately proceeds to leave it run overnight UNATTENDED !! HELOOOOOO !!"

But you left out the part about after 7+ hours he shut the device down and went to bed.

What insight would be gained by an unattended failure of the device beyond an obvious mechanical failure?

AL provided us with information about his findings. He has asked for nothing in return.

This information was presented for us to accept or reject, Do you have any evidence beyond supposition proving  subterfuge or deceit you would like to present?

Many here have seen value in AL's information and have spent time and treasure, and validated some of his information to be of value.

There are believers and sceptics in science, both have their place as they should. But no one knows for sure until the papers are published.
 

Tinker

Are you sure of that as I recall he shut it down when he woke up, before he had to go to work?

Cheers,

Dean

P.S If you know where it is in the thread can you please link, I tried finding it but ran out of steam ...
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2081 on: February 03, 2008, 09:56:58 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2082 on: February 03, 2008, 10:04:05 AM »
Yes that is what he said.

I suspect he has a day job.

Tinker

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2083 on: February 03, 2008, 10:07:17 AM »
Yes that is what he said.

I suspect he has a day job.

Tinker



Therefore you do agree with my point that his actions were contradictory?

Cheers,

Dean
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2083 on: February 03, 2008, 10:07:17 AM »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #2084 on: February 03, 2008, 10:09:10 AM »
Morning All,

It is 3 AM in my neck of the woods, but I have posted two videos.  But I can not figure out why they have no sound.  They recorded with sound, and when I click the file on my computer, it opens in real player and has sound.  So why no sound on Youtube?

It is recorded with a web cam.  File type is .wmv

Thanks and I will read your help in the morning when I wake up and try to fix it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ycczuFEF8

Night all,

Bruce
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