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[FunkyJive]

@All,

Has anyone considered yet this might be a xaoh ?

Cheers,

Dean

I believe that the persistence of experimenters working on this project arises from three factors, namely (1) that Alsetalokin appeared to have a working unit that looked quite plausible; (2) the desire to be amongst the first to succeed at replicating the results shown in the original video; (3) it's fun trying.

On the second point, success would result in nothing less than major kudos and pure euphoria for the achiever, and for most is a lot of fun trying the many possible variations and incarnations whilst facing persistent questions and challenges. In particular, having a lot of fun whilst searching for the proverbial golden chalice has got to be worth more than the relatively small investment constructing test model(s).

By way of example, millions of people spend millions every week on the national lottery in the forlorn hope of hitting the jackpot against near-impossible odds, though as they say... "You've got to be in it to win it"     However, Alsetalokin's convincing video demonstration might be taken to suggest that the odds of success are considerably greater than winning the lottery jackpot and therefore understandable that many experimenters will continue trying to succeed.

Only after the greatest time and effort has been expended could the answer become abundantly clear, though with so many outstanding questions and lack of understanding I believe we're still at the starting block.


All the best,

FunkyJive

[whetherman]

@All,
Anyone notice that Harvey over on Fizzix forum is a lot like Al?...I could be wrong, but I have this funny feeling about it.

Wow, I just went back and read some of Harvey's posts on fizzx.  It does sound a lot like Al.  I think you nailed this one.

[ask]

I noticed two things in Al's first video.

At 00:31 when he turn the stator bvetween the dampers, the roter didn't move much. Seems to me the 3 stators megnets are different, the one in between the dampers is weeker then the other two.

At 02:35 when he stops the two stators, they were all facing same direction. But when he realesed his hand, the two black poles turned facing the center of the rotor. Why?

I found his video 3 days ago, read a lot and very excited!

I believe Al discovered something new and we will find out more soon.

Thanks everyone in this game, let's enjoy it to the max!

[ask]

Was major in physics. Droped out due to low grades, not able to pass calcules or English.

But this motor got my mind. Really like to donate few sents left in my pocket into the pot. Just thoughts, no theory or math. Don't laugh at me please.

First of all, I believe open minds are believing everything is possible. Time is not ready, science is  young... We have all the possiblities on our side.

In Al's motor (I believe it did came from a dream) design, I see the only known force is megnetic force. The stator megnet works like a piston (in a gasoline motor), gives the rotor a kick in every turn. The kick includs ac/de celeration to the rotor. The good news is, the piston drinks gas and smokes O2 but the megnet kicks for free.

Al's video showed clearly the acceleration force is greater. Why is the question. My guase, timing, angle, phase, megnet stranth etc are all in play. 

Why not? Simple is beauty. Megnet is one of the best gifts God made for us. After we married megnet, we might couquer gravity sooner.

Good luck everyone. It's about time!

[Bruce_TPU]

Hello All,

I have been unable to achieve AGW even one time with this new rotor, using N38's in the rotor.  I hope to contact Mike tomorrow about the identical bearings as Al's.  Sorry it is taking a bit.

I did oil yesterday, the rotor bearings.  Reading Omni's post, that was a bad idea.  I have even tried to use a dremel to achieve AGW and it will not lock.  Any ideas?

@ Sean, Omni and Bill and Andrea
Are all of you using screws that are attracted to a magnet, inside of your stators, as Al was?? 

@ Rob
Tell me it isn't so!!  LOL   

Cheers all,

Bruce

[ask]

Some people posted on youtube or forum about the motor. Saying even Al's motor is real thing, it has no future becuase when adding a load, it will slow down and die.

I don't agree at all. Here's why.

After Al finger started his motor, it speed up. The rotor gets like 1700 rpm. The energy gain is what we need. At worst, we can build a rotor weights a lot, use small energy to start it up, and let it die on the pick speed. Use that wind down energy to charge battery. When it stops, re start it again.

Am I have a point?

[vipond50]

Hello All,

I have been unable to achieve AGW even one time with this new rotor, using N38's in the rotor.  I hope to contact Mike tomorrow about the identical bearings as Al's.  Sorry it is taking a bit.

I did oil yesterday, the rotor bearings.  Reading Omni's post, that was a bad idea.  I have even tried to use a dremel to achieve AGW and it will not lock.  Any ideas?

@ Sean, Omni and Bill and Andrea
Are all of you using screws that are attracted to a magnet, inside of your stators, as Al was?? 

@ Rob
Tell me it isn't so!!  LOL   

Cheers all,

Bruce

Hi Bruce
Well I have been there to and it is frustrating. What i did to reduce the magnetic effect between the bearing and the Stator mag was to temporarily install a small Steel washer between the two. The washer will attach its self bas expected, but will reduce or change the magnetic field effecting the the freeness of rotation. The main thing is that the washer dies not touch the cap screw. U will know it due to the noise. Give this a shot and see how it effects AGW.

I also machined up a brass bushing assembly to replace the bearing in the stator. The setup turns very freely when clear of the rotor and at very low rotor turns(rpm's), but as the rotation Ve's increase the stator locks up. Ended up removing the assembly and went back to bearings. Just had to try it to see.

The SHCS that I used are 316 SS alloy so the magnetic response is very, very low.
Hope this helps

Best Regards
Bill

[Omnibus]

@Bruce_TPU,

I did oil yesterday, the rotor bearings.  Reading Omni's post, that was a bad idea.  I have even tried to use a dremel to achieve AGW and it will not lock.  Any ideas?

Did you use specifically ?Liquid Wrench Lubricating and Penetrating Oil? and not any other lubricant? Like I said, this particular one applied to the stator (not so much to the rotor) made the big difference in my rig. It was like night and day regarding the AGW lock.

[Omnibus]

@Bruce_TPU,

Forgot to answer this (sorry about that):

Are all of you using screws that are attracted to a magnet, inside of your stators, as Al was?? 

No, my stator shafts (screws) are non-magnetic, they are not attracted to a magnet.

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Omni
I used precision lubricator from Radio Shack.

@ Bill
Thank you for the tip, I will try it.

Big Question:
Were Al's screws for his stators magnetic or non magnetic?    

If you do not think it matters, then think about each stator screw acting as a damper both to the stator and rotor, throwing the whole thing off.

I would suggest switching to magnetic screws to test, and attempting to achieve AGW lock and see if there is a difference!   

Cheers,

Bruce