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[Groundloop]

@All,

Just want to say that tests done on MY pulse motor gives the oposite result as stated by DMBoss!

When I run my rotor and put a unshorted (open) coil (with a ferrite core) up to the spinning rotor then
the RPM stays almost the same. When I short the coil and put it up to the rotor the RPM is going DOWN!
A shorted coil is a break for the rotor.

Groundloop.

[Harvey]

I think its important to understand here that if Mr. Heins were to short the coils through a resistive load, the energy would be dissipated in the resistor and not be available for magnetic coupling back to the motor.

The question everyone should be asking themselves is: "If the energy is available when the magnetic coupling is in place, what happens to it when the coupling is removed?"

What Mr. Heins is doing is showing us an inefficiency in our current technology where losses occur that could be recouped and utilized in other ways.

 

[Harvey]

@All,

Just want to say that tests done on MY pulse motor gives the oposite result as stated by DMBoss!

When I run my rotor and put a unshorted (open) coil (with a ferrite core) up to the spinning rotor then
the RPM stays almost the same. When I short the coil and put it up to the rotor the RPM is going DOWN!
A shorted coil is a break for the rotor.

Groundloop.

Try and place a magnetic pathway back to the spindle of your pulse motor. The flux induced in your handheld coil must have somewhere to go.

[EMdevices]

Speaking of Perepiteia,   or something opposite taking place than what is intended,  I remember a phenomena simular to Hein's accelerating motor,  and I'm wondering if perhaps it's not the same thing.

A few years ago I was taking an engineering class dealing with electric machines (motors, generators, transformers, etc..),   I don't remember much from that class, but this stuck in my memory as something odd and counterintuitive.

So why is it couterintuitive?   I believe at face value we don't think in terms of torque curves for the motor, but with modeling equations you can show how the torque curve gets modified when the flux drops in the rotor.  From the torque curves it becomes apparent that the steady state speed (equilibrium point) has just moved higher in RPM.

So, I believe Mr Heins might be dealing with this phenomena.  It's not a new physics phenomena, but an engineering or system effect.  That's why some of these profesors are also amazed.  They are experts in a very specific domain, but they can be quite ignorant in other areas.  I see that in myself as well.

EM

[Harvey]

Ever listen to vacuum cleaner when the hose gets plugged?

Or, have you ever taken the output of a fan and routed it back to the input?

How an apparent load interacts with the source can often have unexpected results.

[MrMag]

EM,

You are right about the professors. I used to work in the engineering department for a large food processing plant. We had a mechanical engineering professor stop by one day to see what we were doing. I showed him a positive displacement pump and he said, " so that's what they look like". This guy could tell you everything you wanted to know about them, but has never seen one up close before. They are very intelligent with the theory but I think they fall a bit short in the practical.

Tim

[Groundloop]

@Harvey,

What will the rpm result be if I provide a magnetic path from the RUN coil and back to the rotor axle?

Groundloop.

[gaby de wilde]

The technology is so complicated we need at least 100 lab coats to explain how it works.

.....o no! We only had to hold the magnet close to the motor.

Rocket science!

hahaha

[Bessler007]

@blindsanxxxx
   Ok, then tell me just how is it that the main guy at MIT "does" agree with him. "And" he is stumped as to why.

thaelin

Professor Zahn hasn't responded.  Thaelin, before I'd say the professor agrees with Heins I'd have to hear him explain why (not someone quoting him).  The same is true for why or if he's stumped.  There's no sound reason to conclude either.



Bessler007

edit:  I still haven't watched the videos.

[gotoluc]

Hey guys and girls,

I'm reporting back as I said in Reply #21.

I live in Ottawa and have known Thane Heins for about 9 years now but have lost touch with him for the past 7 years. However I talk to him on the phone tonight for about half an hour. I invited him to the O.U. forum but he said he would not have the time to get involve at this time.

He has a demonstration at the Ottawa University Monday next week which he invited me and another member from this forum to attend.

So if anyone has easy and specific question or tests that we can ask him to do, please PM me but keep in mind that Thane or myself have only basic understandings of electronics. Thane wants to share any of his finding with all, so nothing is hidden. I also want to do the same.

I will give an update of the demonstration.

Luc