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The Eskimo Quinn

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6765 on: August 24, 2010, 10:38:21 PM »
I did, not for free energy devices, for engineering devices, and I am sure that if you troll back through the threads you will find that is exactly the case, nice try but no cigar. There is no need for hecklers anymore, anyone who had any doubts, "who was not an energy company man trying to put people off"  would have asked for a copy as noted above. As to any questions I am sure those who have already read it can answer that for you, you see it was so simple and clever, everyone who read it so far knew it worked without having to build it.

I know, it will destory most super funds, but i think we can safetly say the energy companys have destroyed more of peoples incomes and would have continued to do so. if you work for an energy company, look for a new job, it happens every day when other companies go broke, energy company employees have no rights to special treatment above the rest of us.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6765 on: August 24, 2010, 10:38:21 PM »
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6766 on: August 24, 2010, 10:40:55 PM »
This is the actual abstract from the lodged patent. reading this alone should show you, if not, the even lego is too complex for you.

Abstract
This is primarily a class one lever as described in general mechanics though
does have attributes never seen before in leverage devices.
As a layman’s instruction guide, we are using the glass sphere or cube physics
effect found within the water, the self bearing effect for want of a better term, we
have designed the lever so that it primarily rotates around the water until the
water is positioned at the end of the lever. Take the imaginary sphere filled with
water and hold it at arms length and rotate the sphere a small amount, the water
excluding the adhesive amounts on the inner wall stays where it is, now replace
that with a cereal bowl or half sphere from your kitchen, half fill with water and
repeat moving it about 10 percent of a 45 degree rotation, you will note the water
performed exactly this way in your half sphere, now look at the position of the
water, it is now on the end of a lever, this is the primary component of the device,
we simply did not load the water onto the end of a lever which has been the error
since the first water wheel, but made the entire lever hollow or encapsulate so it
would act in the same manner as the bowl, as soon as the lever begins to rotate
the displacement is almost immediate as the bowl/lever rotates under the fluid
medium, there is a tilt component also though flow is not notable, this simply
adds to the speed of transition. Water is poured when one side of the bowl does
not rise, when it rises (the short side of the lever) you are rotating it under the
water. This device simply revolves the lever around the weight until it is at the
end of the lever.
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6766 on: August 24, 2010, 10:40:55 PM »

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6767 on: August 24, 2010, 10:49:38 PM »
Energy up equals energy down, but not when you dont have to lift the overbalancing medium to the end of the lever which you need to do in one go with an ordinary lever, otherwise as soon as you start to place it there it simply starts moving, and there are a few other components such as self increasing its own leverage ratio. weigting the end on its own also does not work, you simply end up with the same energy out as in, this device beats every contingent, and the power output is massive, megawatt massive, not pissy orbo tech.

This was simply the start, the physics discovered along the way, now has multiple designs for these type of machines and general every day applications
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6768 on: August 24, 2010, 10:57:48 PM »
This is the actual abstract from the lodged patent. reading this alone should show you, if not, the even lego is too complex for you.

Abstract
This is primarily a class one lever as described in general mechanics though
does have attributes never seen before in leverage devices.
As a layman’s instruction guide, we are using the glass sphere or cube physics
effect found within the water, the self bearing effect for want of a better term, we
have designed the lever so that it primarily rotates around the water until the
water is positioned at the end of the lever. Take the imaginary sphere filled with
water and hold it at arms length and rotate the sphere a small amount, the water
excluding the adhesive amounts on the inner wall stays where it is, now replace
that with a cereal bowl or half sphere from your kitchen, half fill with water and
repeat moving it about 10 percent of a 45 degree rotation, you will note the water
performed exactly this way in your half sphere, now look at the position of the
water, it is now on the end of a lever, this is the primary component of the device,
we simply did not load the water onto the end of a lever which has been the error
since the first water wheel, but made the entire lever hollow or encapsulate so it
would act in the same manner as the bowl, as soon as the lever begins to rotate
the displacement is almost immediate as the bowl/lever rotates under the fluid
medium, there is a tilt component also though flow is not notable, this simply
adds to the speed of transition. Water is poured when one side of the bowl does
not rise, when it rises (the short side of the lever) you are rotating it under the
water. This device simply revolves the lever around the weight until it is at the
end of the lever.
Wow.. Nice Abstract... I'd love to see the application...
You should consider adding some punctuations? A few dots are missing, IMHO.

I love class one levers, also cube physics, etc... They're the answer to many things...

Cheers!
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6768 on: August 24, 2010, 10:57:48 PM »

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6769 on: August 24, 2010, 11:17:32 PM »
This Patent is the property of Enerventure Pty Ltd, use of the application for self use is not a patent breach; use of the application for sale  or financial benefit or sale or provision of electrictity to a thrid party is a breach of the patent laws. In short you may build this for yourself only, excluding licence holders'. use for yourself does not include a company or commercial entity.



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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6770 on: August 24, 2010, 11:36:38 PM »
This Patent is the property of Enerventure Pty Ltd, use of the application for self use is not a patent breach; use of the application for sale  or financial benefit or sale or provision of electrictity to a thrid party is a breach of the patent laws. In short you may build this for yourself only, excluding licence holders'. use for yourself does not include a company or commercial entity.

Fantastic... I especially liked that you mentioned Fred Flintstone, and all those kilograms of force.... Archimedes==Archiequinn? That was a clever comparison....

If, by any chance, you need additional help, I can suggest the expertise  of our theoretical physicist, Mr. OmniBot.
You two would conquer the World, that's for sure.
Cheers! 
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6770 on: August 24, 2010, 11:36:38 PM »
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6771 on: August 25, 2010, 12:16:45 AM »
Appreciate the suggestion, and the lever section has already been tested to work, the only non tested component is the energy output in an alternator, however the weight force math in the patent shows clearly that at 150 ton excess minimum, that is the weight of 5 x 30ton locomotives, I am fairly certain with my limited theoretical physics skills and math that this would be sufficient excess to run a shopping centre. a few watts higher than Orbo I believe. and that was simply the impact brake not the rotation.

The estimated retail cost should equate to a high end diesel generator of equal output, 50kw and above without any fuel costs, smaller units are uncosted at the moment.

Anyone wishing too do a computer simulation, don't do it for free, contact me and I will pay you $100 for it. I will give a rough set of drawings to work from and weights will be a scaled down version of the patent.

Other than that, i think i can say my work here is done, though i will complete the other two devices and load them here(the wheel and the mayernick when running) It may not be the 20th of June 2008, but better late than never. Those interested in simulation work etc can simply email me.

He stands upright outstretches his arms and takes a bow, not in acceptance of completion, but as a gesture of thanks to all who believed enough to help with the wheel and who held faith it an efficient energy machine could be built that required no fuel. I thank you and I salute you one and all.

PS. someone just provided the math for the patent example,

The figures in the patent example show 24 ton(24000 litres)  falling 9 metres described as ton force.

On a rotational plane ending at a horizotal impact point.

24 ton = 24000 kilogram force metres x 9 equals 216000 force metres

converted to kilowatts seconds equals 2118kilowatts in that one second,

not surpisingly the same amount of energy it would take to lift 24 ton 9 metres in one second.



Less of course the 1.5 kilowatts required for the pumps to move the 24000 litres over 8 hours

less the affixed lever weight of 42 ton rising 2 metres which is 84,000 kilgram force metres x 2 metres lifted

equals 168000 fm converted to kilowatt seconds = 1648kilowatts in that one second

= total remaining energy for consumption of 458kilowatts

Naturally the capacity to store energy amounts in domestic situations requires machines one 20th of the size.

or a 1200 litre machine, about the litreage of 2 average chest freezers.



NB: the patent has an example at the end unrelated to the application content of the device,

The solar figure is incorrect and should read 1.5kw not 500 watts and there are 12 pumps not four.

http://www.unitconversion.org/unit_converter/energy.html
« Last Edit: August 25, 2010, 05:20:18 AM by The Eskimo Quinn »
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6771 on: August 25, 2010, 12:16:45 AM »

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6772 on: August 25, 2010, 07:30:25 AM »
just want to clarify a few things here...

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= total remaining energy for consumption of 458kilowatts

i assume you mean 458 kilowatt-seconds?

and if so,. you would need 28,800 of these devices pumping for 8 hrs to drop for 1 second. all timed one after another, to produce 458KW of continuous power?

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Less of course the 1.5 kilowatts required for the pumps to move the 24000 litres over 8 hours

1.5Kw for 8 hours = 12 Kilowatt-Hrs
         which is = 43,200 kilowatts-seconds
                   For the pumps

2,000 litres per KW/Hr
compared to a standard industrial irrigation system, which pumps
at a rate of 5,525 litres per Kw/Hr

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6772 on: August 25, 2010, 07:30:25 AM »

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6773 on: August 25, 2010, 07:48:07 AM »
a kilowatt second is not a component of a kilowatt hour, a kilowatt second is a kilo watt per second, a kilowatt hour is a kilowatt per hour, you are imagining that there are 216000 kilowatts seconds in a kiowatt hour ther are not, i kilowatt second is equal to one kilowatt hour for total produced. i gigawatt hour is 1 gigawatt produced in one hour and so on. My math person is a working 40 year veteran electrical engineer. a seconds component of a kilowatt hour is a milliwatt hour, your equation would suggest that 24 ton could be lifted 10 metres in one second with 250watts, fall being equal to lift over the same time.

futher i assume you have not read the patent, 1 pump equals 6000 litres pumped up 20 metres  using 15 x 100 watt solar panels  this is not an equation it is a standard solar bore pump. this is just a method as an example, it can run out of a stream or be produced from rain, it is a hydro lever. and as an example that is a crappy pump, and expensive pump will do twice that on the same solar input.
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
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