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[kames]

Before saying anything else I would like to direct my question to Steven Mark. And here is my question:

In at least one of you devices, does the OUTPUT AC component frequency increase PROPORTIONALLY with INCREASING the number of turns in the output coil?

This is not a funny question, this has been achieved in one of my experiments. I would really appreciate and respect any answer from Steven, even no answer at all. The answer would definitely help me to verify if I am going in the right direction.
And here is some more info.
I am a new in this forum as a registered member but I am not new in this field and in tracing this forum, at all. I have set up one (after a year of experimenting) experiment where I have managed to multiply electrical ?kicks? that Steven Mark was talking about. I have not managed to naturally generate initial ?kick?, at least yet. The electrical ?kick? that I was using was generated artificially but it did got multiplied. I am not yet ready to reveal everything. I might post more info after I get a stable and easily reproducible results but PLEASE don?t be disappointed if I don?t. As Steven said, I don?t like ?Monkey see, monkey do? approach. Unfortunately the things are not moving fast enough.
Some info, only based on my own experience AND after looking at Steven?s videos again and again and some experiments:
1)No magnetic core CAN be used, at least in the simplest set up. In some videos it looks like that the magnetic core IS being used but I think that was some technical improvement vs. general approach.
2)Magnet is a mandatory part but not the best solution, just the simplest solution
3)Look very carefully at the videos and/or some screenshots. There are at least two pictures that do reveal too much. (I don?t want to say that I am absolutely right, I might be wrong)
4)Some of the postings is this forum do really have very interesting stuff

Thanks a lot to Steven

[rensseak]

Lindsay and Steven.
Many thanks for the infos so far, but I am also pretty busy with other things right now,
so I have no time to do these tests. Also I have tried to look up the effect
of the kick current with Google, but did not find any experiment,
which can prove this.
ALso the tube valve book is not available over here in the libraries
and I hoped, somebody would scan it it from their local library or
somebody, who has this book in his posession...
Just keep the info flowing. This year there will
also be many more interesting new devices come up, I can not yet
speak of, cause I have signed NDA.
Regards, Stefan.

Hallo Stefan,

Mit "first kick" ist offensichtlich der Einschaltstrom gemeint.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einschaltstrom

Wie das jetzt aber mit dem Erdmagnetfeld zusammenpasst und ob die Begr?ndung wie sie bei Wikipedia steht so stimmt kann ich nicht sagen.

MfG
rensseak

[rensseak]

Hallo Steven Mark and Linday Mannix,

first of all, many thanks that you are willing to give us some lesson, otherwise we must again invent the wheel.

My english is not perfect, so i want to know if the "first kick" you mention is the same as "startup current" or "starting current" in german "Einschaltstrom" or "Anlaufstrom".

regards from Germany
Norbert K??ner

[oouthere]

After rereading, I'm obviously getting tired.  I thought the idea was to take an unknown induced voltage and jolt a dead battery(Bendini styple o/u).....obviously brain dead again.  The actual idea is to see the copper movement with a sudden jolt of power, and the true quest is what the copper is reacting against to move which is apparently the earths field since the low gauge copper cannot be heated fast enough to cause a physical jump. 

Sorry, I'll try to pay more attention in the future....

Rich

[rensseak]

Hallo Lindsay,

ok, next question!

steve said it would be in common sens, but you said it is new education. I'm now irritated.

I was somewhere reading that every electron has a spin and a north and a South Pole (http://www.physorg.com/news9125.html) and "when first electrons are caused to flow in a wire" the adjustment of this poles or spin is changing and this gives the kick.

regards
Norbert K??ner

Rennseak,

Good question

You are looking for prescribed terminology I am sorry your training does not include this .....it still doesn't

I quote from Steven directly here ..."when first electrons are caused to flow in a wire"
 unquote
This is the first gold nugget ....do not try and fit it into your education this is a new education

Every body has been looking for back emf

The kick is physical...it shows that there is ENERGY!!!

It is to prove to you that it is there

It is to remove your doubt

It is the foundation of you knowing that it exists

I sincerely hope this helps with the context and action of the KICK!

Does any body else think that one kick amounts to any thing?

Perhaps we need more than one kick ...who knows? ...

What if we had a switch that could turn off the moment after we turned it on?

Heres a potentially stupid term"foward emf"... no sparks ay? ...




I hope this makes sense to you, it is a slow process.

If I could down load my brain here it may help ..I feel like I already have


Im sorry but I keep repeating "read the thread again"


But yes a good question!

Lindsay Mannix

[Elvis Oswald]

Whatever the source of input this device has... and it has been implied that the source is the "kick" that comes for "free" when a circuit is closed... so we have a source that is not really used - only for the initial "kick", over and over and over...
Then perhaps this is a series LC circuit resonating at the same frequency as the input so that impedance is zero and the output is amplified 100-1000 times - over and over and over?

see this reference...

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_6/3.html

[hartiberlin]

Good idea ! This could be, that he has the coil of the LC circuit then on a toroidal core
and the resonating will induce into the secondary also pulses.

The question would then be, why the magnet field would spin up
in frequency ( the compass spinup) ? This would not fit with a fixed
LC resonance circuit....

[Elvis Oswald]

ty. 

I would have no idea how this power is then transformed or delivered to a secondary circuit.  But... it's possible that the physical arrangment of the coils... whether multiple LC circuits or a combination with secondary coils... that the alternating current is rotating around a concentric axis.... thus creating a gyroscopic effect.

Also... don't forget that the power input is said to be small... and so the device is constantly adding that small input to the residual (input minus loss) at each cycle.  This would cause the coils to produce more and more (flux?) and if they are arranged so that it is a roatating field... it would cause the perceived gyroscopic affect to get stronger and stronger until it reached maximum.

The time to stop this motion... the "spin down" also points to an oscillation like in an LC circuit.

Maybe you can answer this - I have heard that you cannot couple a secondary coil to the coil in a LC or "tank" circuit.  Is this true? If it is, then we are still way behind the curve on how this device works.

[hartiberlin]

P.S: I have searched back and forth GOOGLE for any reference of the earth magnet field
for instant bigger current when switching on ( Einschaltstrom)
but have not yet found anything related to the earth magnetic field.
So until someone can scan these valve book pages we will be still
in the dark how this effect is working and how it can be seen in an experiment.
P.S: the experiment with the cable and the battery:
There you probably just see, that coil loops repell each self against
each other...
So if you lay a longer wire into a coil onto the floor and energize this cable
the loops will just repell each other, but just only due to their
own magnet fields repelling each other loop...

Stefan.

[Elvis Oswald]

parallel wires with current flowing in the same direction will attract.... reverse the current in one of the wires and they repell.

I'm not sure where the "kick" comes from... but flip the switch on a big DC generator and you will see the glow.